Cleo's Mom 257 Posted September 13, 2009 No. It's because what is already done is done! When was the last time you have seen a government program that actually ENDED??!! Trying to rid the government of medicare and medicaid would be a feat that would be impossible. But trying to start up yet another failed program to go along with all the others might be easier. We are trying to stop the gradual, continuation towards socialism. Full fledge socialism starts off with small additions of social programs over time till it eventually is full blown and people look back and say stupidly,"How did we get here?" No, if those who oppose a government run health care option are genuine then they would advocate to privatize social security. Oh no, wait, they did advocate that until the stock market tanked. Now, they are running away from that issue. Most of medicaid is used for nursing home care. How would you propose we take care of grandma in the nursing home that costs $6000+/month. Who has that kind of money? What would YOU propose we do for grandma who needs 24/7 skilled care? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted September 13, 2009 Bush was threatened frequently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleo's Mom 257 Posted September 13, 2009 Whenever people protest something, they carry signs. That's how they say what they feel. The dems did it when they oppposed Bush's war as well. Does that mean they had 'hate' in their heart for him, or just that they opposed his plans? None of the signs I saw said "I hate Obama". Also, would you like those who oppose your ideas to say it is because they hate you? I opppose what you say, but I certainly don't 'hate' you, bjean. One particularly offensive sign (that was mass produced) said "Bury Obamacare along with Kennedy" - this from a group of anti-abortionist who joined the frey. The man just died and this is pro-life? Yeah, right!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted September 13, 2009 I could post hundreds of BUSH HATERS who protested, but why? Would it matter if I proved to you that Democrats also showed HATE and disdain for their then president? I don't think so. The point I am making is STOP being hypocritical! When your time was here, you were a HATER also. Jesus said,"Before you can point out the sliver in someone elses eye, you need to remove the plank from your own." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) Death Threats Against Bush at Protests Ignored for Years Make sure you scroll down this page a bit to view the protestors. But before you do, please take a moment to read his every word, for they are in complete alignment to how I feel on this issue. Edited September 13, 2009 by pattygreen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BJean 16 Posted September 13, 2009 Well although I think it's big of you not to hate me patty, I hope you realize that you posted it just below something that someone else had posted. Then you post a comment that you think two wrongs don't make a right (I shortened the idea a bit) and then you go on to post all the stuff about protestors who were against Bush. Don't you know how disengenuous that seems? And how your credibility suffers because of things like that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BJean 16 Posted September 13, 2009 patty: "Make sure you scroll down this page a bit to view the protestors. "But before you do, please take a moment to read his every word, for they are in complete alignment to how I feel on this issue." Seriously, patty? Seriously? Because how could anyone here not know how you feel about this issue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted September 13, 2009 patty: "Make sure you scroll down this page a bit to view the protestors."But before you do, please take a moment to read his every word, for they are in complete alignment to how I feel on this issue." Seriously, patty? Seriously? Because how could anyone here not know how you feel about this issue? Seriously, bjean? Seriously? Did you SEE the democratic BUSH protestors? HATING and saying they wanted to KILL him. Such HATE and MURDER that's in their hearts!:tongue2: And how could anyone here not know your views. Hypocritical democrats! I believe I've made my point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted September 13, 2009 How are those 2 T shirts being warn approximately 8 years apart from each other any different? Answer: they're not! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted September 13, 2009 The fact is that conservatives respect the right for others to voice their opinions and to have free speech in this country and democrats do not. That is why when the Democrats did the same thing in Bush's day, no one talked about having them arrested for their "Hate" (your words, not mine). But let the republicans express their exercise of free speech, and it is now a 'HATE' CRIME!!! For shame! The media is heavily left winged (except for FOX, the #1 watched news media in the nation)They picked up on the things they could criticize about republicans and decided to give it plenty of air time. Whereas in Bushes day when the democrats were doing the EXACT same thing, they ignored it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted September 13, 2009 Well although I think it's big of you not to hate me patty, I hope you realize that you posted it just below something that someone else had posted. Then you post a comment that you think two wrongs don't make a right (I shortened the idea a bit) and then you go on to post all the stuff about protestors who were against Bush. Don't you know how disengenuous that seems? And how your credibility suffers because of things like that? Everyone here knows my credibility. If it suffers slightly to make my point about some democratic hypocrisy going on, I'm willing to let it. Especially when the credibility and moral standing of some fellow conservatives are at stake. Calling them "HATERS" as if they are bigots and criminals deserving of being reprimanded in some way for their opposition is not acceptable to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites