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More specifically,

"ahem... show some compasion b****! "

You're suggesting THAT comment was somehow...uh..."productive" ?

jeez.....

HH

that was meant in the spirit to help someone... i mean really sometimes you need a expletive to enhance a point. I was not trying to make fun or call her out i needed her to hear what i was saying in the context that i was saying it and i didn't want to leave any room for misinterpretation.

if you are in a room with arguing people and some one says ever so elegantly "please simmer down" how quiet do you think it will get?

But if before that some one comes in and said in a loud stern voice "Quiet the hell (or other expletive) down. You will get a much better response.

Furthermore if you were in a bank and it was being robbed and the gunman came in and said in a calm voice. "excuse me this is a robbery would you all please get on the floor and be still" i ask you what you believe the response would be?

When i made that statement it was to make sure that the tone of the entire post was read with absolute clarity.

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Oh, I get it now.

It was OK to refer to someone as a B***h because your INTENTION was pure and honorable.

You were using an expletive for the betterment of the dialogue, and the community at large.

Have you discussed your philosophy of "controlled and well-intentioned profanity" during your aforementioned "walk with Jesus"?

Do you suppose that when he rid the temple of the moneychangers that he was screaming "get your motherf****** A*** out of this go*da** temple before I kick your as***!!!!"

Do ya think that's how he might have handled it?

I'm thinking....perhaps not.

I think you and PattyGreen need to kiss and make up. You guys were made for each other.

:thumbup:

HH

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Oh, I get it now.

It was OK to refer to someone as a B***h because your INTENTION was pure and honorable.

You were using an expletive for the betterment of the dialogue, and the community at large.

Have you discussed your philosophy of "controlled and well-intentioned profanity" during your aforementioned "walk with Jesus"?

Do you suppose that when he rid the temple of the moneychangers that he was screaming "get your motherf****** A*** out of this go*da** temple before I kick your as***!!!!"

Do ya think that's how he might have handled it?

I'm thinking....perhaps not.

I think you and PattyGreen need to kiss and make up. You guys were made for each other.

:thumbup:

HH

I am not Christ and i can only be me ... that is all.

trust i see what your saying but i don't expect you to understand the thought processes that go into my responses. I truly do think them all out. ... so have a good night

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I'm with you i remember the issues that gadget lady brought to my Obama threads.

i think the biggest problem with that attitude is that there is no room for people to live together in their scenario. It is that type of thinking that lead to atrocities such as the crusades, the genocides in Rwanda, Darfur, Kosovo, and other places. yes i have different beliefs and yes i think they are best... but i can force anyone to live a certain way without breaking the commandments that i live my life by. so we all have to learn now to live with each other dispite our differences and have intelegnt and respectful conversations and dialog about said issues.

Sometimes I wonder if transfer addiction isn't really the problem. Do you think some people go from obsessing over food to obsessing over religion? Or is it OCD that causes the food and religion things?

I do not believe food is really an addiction, I think it is an obsession. When my head hunger kicks in full force I take Luvox and it kills my head hunger. Luvox is for OCD. I really wonder with some obsessed over religion... what do you suppose would happen if they were treated for it?

I'm not talking someone who has faith in their God, I'm referring to the Patty and Gadgetlady types.

Almost makes you want to slip a bit of Luvox in their coffee for a few days just to see if it helps. ;o)

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stay on the right path she will eventually come around

I don't think so. I honestly don't. Some people use religion to avoid life and everything they do to others is based on justifications from the bible.

I truly, sincerely, believe it is a disorder that needs treatment and I only see it getting worse with time. I was dead serious in my (above) post where I wrote that I see it as an OCD issue.

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that was meant in the spirit to help someone... i mean really sometimes you need a expletive to enhance a point. I was not trying to make fun or call her out i needed her to hear what i was saying in the context that i was saying it and i didn't want to leave any room for misinterpretation.

if you are in a room with arguing people and some one says ever so elegantly "please simmer down" how quiet do you think it will get?

But if before that some one comes in and said in a loud stern voice "Quiet the hell (or other expletive) down. You will get a much better response.

Furthermore if you were in a bank and it was being robbed and the gunman came in and said in a calm voice. "excuse me this is a robbery would you all please get on the floor and be still" i ask you what you believe the response would be?

When i made that statement it was to make sure that the tone of the entire post was read with absolute clarity.

Awwww, com'on... you did the same thing as HH.

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I don't think so. I honestly don't. Some people use religion to avoid life and everything they do to others is based on justifications from the bible.

And moreover, they use their religion - as Ms. Green does - to justify their ignorance, bigotry and complete lack of critical thinking skills. That's the best indictment against religion.

I truly, sincerely, believe it is a disorder that needs treatment and I only see it getting worse with time. I was dead serious in my (above) post where I wrote that I see it as an OCD issue.

It clearly is. It's substituting on addiction for another. Except this time it's hatred turned outward.

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And moreover, they use their religion - as Ms. Green does - to justify their ignorance, bigotry and complete lack of critical thinking skills. That's the best indictment against religion.

It clearly is. It's substituting on addiction for another. Except this time it's hatred turned outward.

its an indictment against their ignorance not religion

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Not necessarily. Assuming religion and spirituality are different concepts.

Its the Muslim argument all over again you can blame the Faith because of the fanaticism of the few.

green has the view point of an extreme.

i hole the same faith yet you can clearly see that i am radically different.

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Its the Muslim argument all over again you can blame the Faith because of the fanaticism of the few.

green has the view point of an extreme.

i hole the same faith yet you can clearly see that i am radically different.

Religion tells people how to behave, spirituality tells them if they are right or not.

I think religion is one of the biggest problems historically throughout society. It is the #1 reason we are not more advanced in science, medicine, and culture. Religion has caused countless deaths and the slaughter of people. Then you have the abuse of humans.... all due to religion and namely the Christian religion. It is a primitive myth that should have gone out the window a long time ago. It has in other societies and amazingly, they are a much kinder people. Less judgmental, hateful, and far more open to people doing their own thing in life as long as it isn't hurting anyone.

Spirituality is a whole different ball game. Spirituality I am all for. If someone wants to believe in a God, all the power to them! If that gives them comfort then I'm glad they found what works. But religion is nothing short of a horror.

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Religion tells people how to behave, spirituality tells them if they are right or not.

I think religion is one of the biggest problems historically throughout society. It is the #1 reason we are not more advanced in science, medicine, and culture.

The best example of this is the incredible advancements and inventions that came from the Middle East during the "middle ages". That section of the world was one of the more advanced societies on earth at the time. We still use some of their inventions.

Then, religion took over and destroyed it all.

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It's actually The bible (God) who tells people how to behave. Religion tells people how THEY think people should behave. Spirituality is an individuals concern with the inner spirit.

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Oh yeah, This was the forum I said I was done with. I came back and posted unaware, once i got the email. bye.

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