Erin Marie 0 Posted December 12, 2009 Our image, our relationship with other countries, and his family? You are content with that? I am just a regular old citizen here and could accomplish that. You should see my family, they're wonderful. But it doesn't do anything for the country he is supposed to be running. Way to miss the post of my post entirely. For the first time in my LIFE there is a president in office that I am proud of. I can go to a foreign country now and not pretend to be Canadian. Obama has completely put a standstill on the rapidly falling unemployment rate and has purposed and put into motion a complete revision of the healthcare system (death panels my ass, anyone who calls it a death panel didn't read the actual purposal). I am proud to be American. For me to be able to say that is incredible, because I thought my country would never make me proud until Obama. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleo's Mom 257 Posted December 12, 2009 Let me also add to my previous post (what Obama & Congress has done not for me, but for the country) -The House just passed sweeping regulations of Wall Street called the Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. It would: 1) create a mechanism for government to dissolve huge globally interconnected banks; 2) provide first-ever regulation of derivatives 3) rein in excessive financial speculations investments 4) require banks to set aside more capital in reserve 5)eliminate the much maligned Office of Thrift Supervision 6) give shareholders a greater say on executive pay 7) tighten supervision over credit rating agencies who sold out investors. Now, all of this is good for those of us on Main Street, but want to guess how many republicans voted for this? THAT RIGHT - ZERO REPUBLICANS - FRIENDS AND DEFENDERS OF BIG CORPORATIONS AND WALL STREET - VOTED NO!!! Also, during all this debate about health care - all that the republicans have been harping on is how Pres. Obama should be focusing on jobs. Well, now he wants to use some of the paid back bank bailout money to go to job programs. And guess what? THAT'S RIGHT - THE REPUBLICANS ARE AGAINST THAT, TOO. THEY ARE AGAINST A JOBS PROGRAM FOR AMERICAN. It is so clear that the elected republicans and those protestors organized by the big businesses that support them only want Obama to fail so as to INCREASE THEIR CHANCES OF GETTING ELECTED IN 2010 AND 2012 so they can drive home their agenda which is tax cuts for the rich, war at any cost, anti-abortion, gays and immigration, and everyone else be damned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdslf1 0 Posted December 12, 2009 You go girl, Cleomom!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleo's Mom 257 Posted December 12, 2009 You go girl, Cleomom!!!! Thank you. :thumbup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted December 13, 2009 Where were you? That's a better question. If you didn't like what Bush was doing, why didn't all the liberals get together and say so? Nobamaforu 531 x 411 - 65k - jpg sodahead.com Anti President Bush 404 x 267 - 38k - jpg telegraph.co.uk Pic from Bush protest 359 x 409 - 31k - jpg politicalmusic... Find similar images Anti-Bush protest 639 x 387 - 51k - jpg londonist.com Anti Bush protestors 470 x 262 - 45k - jpg brisbanetimes.com.au Find similar images Bush Diary - I Visit 349 x 237 - 22k - jpg bongonews.com that George W. 267 x 400 - 37k - jpg artblogbybob.blogspot.com Bush Protest: Shoes 500 x 375 - 181k - jpg a4cgr.wordpress.com Rhetoric at Bush 400 x 300 - 50k - jpg upinsmokemyobamachronicl... "Nice' 414 x 520 - 67k - jpg freerepublic.com Find similar images are pro bush 480 x 360 - 52k - jpg florida-coastal-fed-soc... Bush & Clinton 478 x 318 - 81k - jpg web.mac.com Bush protest falls 819 x 614 - 113k - jpg 24ahead.com Bush Protest: Shoes 500 x 375 - 208k - jpg a4cgr.wordpress.com anti-Bush protestors 360 x 239 - 33k - jpg soundpolitics.com of the Bush Protest 454 x 342 - 33k - jpeg scoop.co.nz At Anti Bush Rally 420 x 227 - 67k - jpg tenpercent.wordpress.com Find similar images The anti-Bush 300 x 225 - 32k - jpg littlelostrobot.com Find similar images Bush protestors 600 x 800 - 237k - jpg missiledickchicks.net Bush Protestors 800 x 600 - 76k - jpg travel.webshots.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted December 13, 2009 Those who protest were just anti-Bush. Their reasons ring hollow and hypocritical. These are people who didn't and never would vote for him and just wanted him to fail. ................................................................................... Talk about hypocritical! Liberals proteseted against Bush in the same way. Let's face it.... There are just two "as far apart as can be" views on morals and policies in this country. Liberals have their ideas, and conservatives have theirs. The 2 shall never agree because one is soooooo far from the other in their thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted December 13, 2009 Way to miss the post of my post entirely. For the first time in my LIFE there is a president in office that I am proud of. I can go to a foreign country now and not pretend to be Canadian. Obama has completely put a standstill on the rapidly falling unemployment rate and has purposed and put into motion a complete revision of the healthcare system (death panels my ass, anyone who calls it a death panel didn't read the actual purposal). I am proud to be American. For me to be able to say that is incredible, because I thought my country would never make me proud until Obama. I'm glad someone is ecstatic about the Humongous unsustainable debt he's given us! YES, Obama's given us. He has spent more money in a time of national depression than can even be fathomed as real, yet it is real! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LarraineM 6 Posted December 13, 2009 I am not sorry I supported President Obama with my vote or my money. He has a BIG OL Mess to clean up,I trust that he is thoughtfully trying his best. Twelve months is not enough time to judge..........D^&$$%#& you wish Bush could have continued running this country? Where have you been the last 8 yrs I mean what rock? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted December 13, 2009 I am not sorry I supported President Obama with my vote or my money. He has a BIG OL Mess to clean up,I trust that he is thoughtfully trying his best. Twelve months is not enough time to judge..........D^&$$%#&you wish Bush could have continued running this country? Where have you been the last 8 yrs I mean what rock? I never said I wished Bush would have continued running this country. I wish we could get someone in there who doesn't have a hole in his pocket! Cause every American's change is falling through it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erin Marie 0 Posted December 13, 2009 I'm glad someone is ecstatic about the Humongous unsustainable debt he's given us! YES, Obama's given us. He has spent more money in a time of national depression than can even be fathomed as real, yet it is real! That statment is hilarious considering the massive amount of money spent during the Bush administration. Spending Under President George W. Bush | Mercatus What are your sources for this unsustainable debt? And anyway, gotta spend money to make money. Any entry level business class will tell you that much. But considering that I've had friends killed in Iraq and family currently stationed, you can imagine that money and or debt is, surprisingly, not the most important issue to me :willy_nilly:. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted December 14, 2009 That statment is hilarious considering the massive amount of money spent during the Bush administration. Spending Under President George W. Bush | Mercatus What are your sources for this unsustainable debt? And anyway, gotta spend money to make money. Any entry level business class will tell you that much. But considering that I've had friends killed in Iraq and family currently stationed, you can imagine that money and or debt is, surprisingly, not the most important issue to me :willy_nilly:. Why is it that when you are talking to liberals about the present situation, they have to bring up what past presidents have done. Who cares? The past can't be changed. Just because Bush spent a lot of money makes it okay for Obama to outdo him in his spending? NO! A business owner has to spend money to make money, but the government is not in that field, so where do they get off spending our money to make money? So, what you say in untrue. The government doesn't need to spend money to make money. They get their money from US. I don't have any problem with our government spending money to defend this nation. As a matter of fact, anything financially that our servicemen and women need, I feel should be given to them. It's wasteful, unnecessary spending I can't condone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erin Marie 0 Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) That's all well and good, but I'd still like to see your sources for our unsustainable debt. Also, specifically, what things is the Obama administration spending money on that is unnecessary? On second thought, nevermind. You're more than entitled to your opinion, as am I. So I will continue to be happy with the direction Obama is going, debt and all. Edited December 14, 2009 by Erin Marie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleo's Mom 257 Posted December 14, 2009 Those who protest were just anti-Bush. Their reasons ring hollow and hypocritical. These are people who didn't and never would vote for him and just wanted him to fail. ................................................................................... Talk about hypocritical! Liberals proteseted against Bush in the same way. Let's face it.... There are just two "as far apart as can be" views on morals and policies in this country. Liberals have their ideas, and conservatives have theirs. The 2 shall never agree because one is soooooo far from the other in their thinking. The things that the teabaggers in their astroturf movement CLAIM to be protesting about Obama happened under bush, too. But since they didn't find any reason to protest these things under bush, their protests now ring hollow and hypocritical. And I, and many others, see right through them. But the things the protestors protested against bush - selling us on an unjustified war with lies (Iraq); opening up Gitmo, torture, secret CIA prisons, outing Valerie Plame, Katrina - well these things don't exist under Obama. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted December 14, 2009 But the things the protestors protested against bush - selling us on an unjustified war with lies (Iraq); opening up Gitmo, torture, secret CIA prisons, outing Valerie Plame, Katrina - well these things don't exist under Obama. No. He has his own list of things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pattygreen 5 Posted December 14, 2009 specifically, what things is the Obama administration spending money on that is unnecessary? 1. The federal government made at least $72 billion in improper payments in 2008. 2. Washington spends $92 billion on corporate welfare (excluding TARP) versus $71 billion on homeland security. 3. Washington spends $25 billion annually maintaining unused or vacant federal properties. 4. Government auditors spent the past five years examining all federal programs and found that 22 percent of them–costing taxpayers a total of $123 billion annually–fail to show any positive impact on the populations they serve. 5. The Congressional Budget Office published a “Budget Options” series identifying more than $100 billion in potential spending cuts. 6. Examples from multiple Government Accountability Office (GAO) reports of wasteful duplication include 342 economic development programs; 130 programs serving the disabled; 130 programs serving at-risk youth; 90 early childhood development programs; 75 programs funding international education, cultural, and training exchange activities; and 72 safe Water programs. 7. Washington will spend $2.6 million training Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on the job. 8. A GAO audit classified nearly half of all purchases on government credit cards as improper, fraudulent, or embezzled. Examples of taxpayer-funded purchases include gambling, mortgage payments, liquor, lingerie, iPods, Xboxes, jewelry, Internet dating services, and Hawaiian vacations. In one extraordinary example, the Postal Service spent $13,500 on one dinner at a Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse, including “over 200 appetizers and over $3,000 of alcohol, including more than 40 bottles of wine costing more than $50 each and brand-name liquor such as Courvoisier, Belvedere and Johnny Walker Gold.” The 81 guests consumed an average of $167 worth of food and drink apiece. 9. Federal agencies are delinquent on nearly 20 percent of employee travel charge cards, costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars annually. 10. The Securities and Exchange Commission spent $3.9 million rearranging desks and offices at its Washington, D.C., headquarters. 11. The Pentagon recently spent $998,798 shipping two 19-cent washers from South Carolina to Texas and $293,451 sending an 89-cent washer from South Carolina to Florida. 12. Over half of all farm subsidies go to commercial farms, which report average household incomes of $200,000. 13. Health care fraud is estimated to cost taxpayers more than $60 billion annually. 14. A GAO audit found that 95 Pentagon weapons systems suffered from a combined $295 billion in cost overruns. 15. The refusal of many federal employees to fly coach costs taxpayers $146 million annually in flight upgrades. 16. Washington will spend $126 million in 2009 to enhance the Kennedy family legacy in Massachusetts. Additionally, Senator John Kerry (D-MA) diverted $20 million from the 2010 defense budget to subsidize a new Edward M. Kennedy Institute. 17. Federal investigators have launched more than 20 criminal fraud investigations related to the TARP financial bailout. 18. Despite trillion-dollar deficits, last year’s 10,160 earmarks included $200,000 for a tattoo removal program in Mission Hills, California; $190,000 for the Buffalo Bill Historical Center in Cody, Wyoming; and $75,000 for the Totally Teen Zone in Albany, Georgia. 19. The federal government owns more than 50,000 vacant homes. 20. The Federal Communications Commission spent $350,000 to sponsor NASCAR driver David Gilliland. 21. Members of Congress have spent hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars supplying their offices with popcorn machines, plasma televisions, DVD equipment, ionic air fresheners, camcorders, and signature machines–plus $24,730 leasing a Lexus, $1,434 on a digital camera, and $84,000 on personalized calendars. 22. More than $13 billion in Iraq aid has been classified as wasted or stolen. Another $7.8 billion cannot be accounted for. 23. Fraud related to Hurricane Katrina spending is estimated to top $2 billion. In addition, debit cards provided to hurricane victims were used to pay for Caribbean vacations, NFL tickets, Dom Perignon champagne, “Girls Gone Wild” videos, and at least one sex change operation. 24. Auditors discovered that 900,000 of the 2.5 million recipients of emergency Katrina assistance provided false names, addresses, or Social Security numbers or submitted multiple applications. 25. Congress recently gave Alaska Airlines $500,000 to paint a Chinook salmon on a Boeing 737. 26. The Transportation Department will subsidize up to $2,000 per flight for direct flights between Washington, D.C., and the small hometown of Congressman Hal Rogers (R-KY)–but only on Monday mornings and Friday evenings, when lawmakers, staff, and lobbyists usually fly. Rogers is a member of the Appropriations Committee, which writes the Transportation Department’s budget. 27. Washington has spent $3 billion re-sanding beaches–even as this new sand washes back into the ocean. 28. A Department of Agriculture report concedes that much of the $2.5 billion in “stimulus” funding for broadband Internet will be wasted. 29. The Defense Department wasted $100 million on unused flight tickets and never bothered to collect refunds even though the tickets were refundable. 30. Washington spends $60,000 per hour shooting Air Force One photo-ops in front of national landmarks. 31. Over one recent 18-month period, Air Force and Navy personnel used government-funded credit cards to charge at least $102,400 on admission to entertainment events, $48,250 on gambling, $69,300 on cruises, and $73,950 on exotic dance clubs and prostitutes. 32. Members of Congress are set to pay themselves $90 million to increase their franked mailings for the 2010 election year. 33. Congress has ignored efficiency recommendations from the Department of Health and Human Services that would save $9 billion annually. 34. Taxpayers are funding paintings of high-ranking government officials at a cost of up to $50,000 apiece. 35. The state of Washington sent $1 food stamp checks to 250,000 households in order to raise state caseload figures and trigger $43 million in additional federal funds. 36. Suburban families are receiving large farm subsidies for the grass in their backyards–subsidies that many of these families never requested and do not want. 37. Congress appropriated $20 million for “commemoration of success” celebrations related to Iraq and Afghanistan. 38. Homeland Security employee purchases include 63-inch plasma TVs, iPods, and $230 for a beer brewing kit. 39. Two drafting errors in the 2005 Deficit Reduction Act resulted in a $2 billion taxpayer cost. 40. North Ridgeville, Ohio, received $800,000 in “stimulus” funds for a project that its mayor described as “a long way from the top priority.” 41. The National Institutes of Health spends $1.3 million per month to rent a lab that it cannot use. 42. Congress recently spent $2.4 billion on 10 new jets that the Pentagon insists it does not need and will not use. 43. Lawmakers diverted $13 million from Hurricane Katrina relief spending to build a museum celebrating the Army Corps of Engineers–the agency partially responsible for the failed levees that flooded New Orleans. 44. Medicare officials recently mailed $50 million in erroneous refunds to 230,000 Medicare recipients. 45. Audits showed $34 billion worth of Department of Homeland Security contracts contained significant waste, fraud, and abuse. 46. Washington recently spent $1.8 million to help build a private golf course in Atlanta, Georgia. 47. The Advanced Technology Program spends $150 million annually subsidizing private businesses; 40 percent of this funding goes to Fortune 500 companies. 48. Congressional investigators were able to receive $55,000 in federal student loan funding for a fictional college they created to test the Department of Education. 49. The Conservation Reserve program pays farmers $2 billion annually not to farm their land. 50. The Commerce Department has lost 1,137 computers since 2001, many containing Americans’ personal data. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites