Octuplets and SIX other children??!!!

[TQUAD64 9]

I can see that working to a point, but eventually they will be able to see well enough to discern that it's a different person each time.

So very true!

[green 6]

Patty, the word sorce is spelled source. Just thought that I would point this out to you, eh.

[pattygreen 5]

CNA's are NOT trained to take care of premmies!! CNA's are trained to mostly work in nursing homes and as techs in hospitals. They have very limited medical training. I know, because I used to be one! My training mostly consisted of how to bathe an elderly person, how to feed them, turn them, etc. There is NO training on taking care of premature babies! And when I was doing it, I didn't make much at all, only about $8. That should tell you they are not trained for little babies!

Mom's who have premies are sent home with them to care for them . They are not CNA's either, yet they do it. My daughters premie was sent home to us when he was ready, and we cared for him.

Edited March 12, 2009 by pattygreen

[heartfire 4]

Mom's who have premies are sent home with them to care for them . They are not CNA's either, yet they do it. My daughters premie was sent home to us when he was ready, and we cared for him.

Patty, when will you realize that not every case is the same? I think it's great your grandson was able to come home without a nurse. BUT in THIS CASE the DOCTORS are requiring that the babies go home with nurses trained to take care of preemies. If the babies are not going to go home with nurses, then I imagine, the hospital will keep the babies longer. That was the case with my nephew. He had to stay longer in the hospital because he needed special care and my BIL and his wife could not provide that care, either themselves (they're not special nurses) or by hiring preemie nurses.

There is a "standard of care" that all hospitals participate in but all hospitals have their own policies. You can not possibly know what every hospital in the country uses as their policy protocol on preemies. We, including YOU, can only talk about what we are reading and our own experiences as guidelines. Where you differ is you spout your own experiences as gospel and fact for EVERY SITUATION AND PERSON. Please stop!

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I am glad to see that she is taking help finally. I do wish it wasn't benefiting HER but it's all about the kids at this point. Also, I do worry about the older kids hurting the babies if only because no one (meaning their mother) will not think to teach them how to handle and be around the babies. With the extra help, that should be minimized and maybe the nurses, out of necessity, will teach the older ones how to be around the babies. Not that they should need too. Who knows.

I do know that if she does get a reality show, I for one will not be watching it. I don't like drama and dysfunction in my life and choose not to bring it in to my house, either in the form people in real life or on TV.

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Oh and Patty, the Ignore feature works both ways. You can ignore Beth just as easily.

Actually, I'm about to use the button on you. You know, the whole drama and dysfunction thing. You're borderline on a good day!

[BJean 16]

So you have experience with one preemie. That hardly compares with Octomom's situation or the care that is involved with 8 preemies!!!

We had twin preemies and until they were older, it required more than one person feeding and changing their diapers, about every 1.5 hours. It was only possible for one person to do it if the other baby is allowed to cry for the length of time a feeding and changing takes. And preemies take longer to feed than normal babies. I could never allow a tiny little baby to cry unattended for that long. When they get bigger it isn't so critical, but not when they're that small and dependent.

Taking care of 6 children and 8 preemie babies is nearly unthinkable to me. It in no way compares to having 8 or 10 children who have some space between them.

It is overwhelming just trying to calculate what will be required to see that the babies' physical needs are met, and the emotional side of it is a whole 'nuther ballgame. The fact that they know now how important it is for mother and baby to bond, and using aids like a piece of clothing and scented hand lotion is amazing!

[luluc 6]

Actually, I'm about to use the button on you. You know, the whole drama and dysfunction thing. You're borderline on a good day!

it really has made reading this & other threads much more enjoyable...:w00t:

[green 6]

Up here if one wants to start up a home day care service the government has certain rules and regulations as to how many attendents must be on site with respect to the number of children. This only makes sense, babies and toddlers can run into difficulties so easily, I have heard. There is no way that Octotwat will be able to look after all those preemies and her angry/jealous older kids on her own or even with her hardworking mother in attendance. The place will become dirty and crawling with germs - not a good idea for young babies. They will need feeding and changing frequently. And there will be 8 of them! At the same time I wouldn't want to be one of Octomom's helpers. I cannot see that she will treat them with the respect which they deserve.

[pattygreen 5]

In Ct we have daycare child limits as well, (no more than 3 infants per adult, and 6 over 2 yrs. old) but in this country the gov. can't tell you how many children you can have.

[pattygreen 5]

But, she's not going to be looking after them herself, so what's the gripe?

[TQUAD64 9]

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I do know that if she does get a reality show, I for one will not be watching it. I don't like drama and dysfunction in my life and choose not to bring it in to my house, either in the form people in real life or on TV.

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Oh you know what I forgot to mention, on Dr. Phil yesterday, he asked octo-mom if she was offered a porn deal. She stated yes, she thought it was a joke, and she would not do it.

Dr. Phil also asked octo-mo if she was planning to do a tv reality show. She stated no...not in her plans... but would consider doing a medical tv special about her experience if it was tastefully done.

I think Dr. Phil and others and finally getting through to octo-mom for the sake of all the children.

[BethFromVA 5]

But, she's not going to be looking after them herself, so what's the gripe?

Some mother she's gonna be. :w00t:

[green 6]

But, she's not going to be looking after them herself, so what's the gripe?

Well, in Canada, too, the government doesn't limit the number of children one might have but the government very kindly paid for home assistance for my middle class friends who came home with twins. The home care lasted only a week, and, as these folks were older and completely inexperienced at dealing with new-borns, the assistance was much appreciated.

[pattygreen 5]

Some mother she's gonna be. :w00t:

Funny, some don't say that about moms who put their kids in daycare for 10 hours a day.

[BJean 16]

This is going to be a very unpopular rant, but I believe that one parent should stay home with preschool age children and that people really shouldn't consider having children if they are unable to take care of them themselves.

My reasons are many but not the least of which is the fact that really great daycare workers are hard to find. Many of the good-sized institutions hire poorly educated and unskilled warm bodies to take care of the children, who are often given the minimum care and attention. I can follow this with horror stories but I won't bore you.

On the other hand, mostly, my niece has 3 children and has never stayed home and never plans to stay home, nor does her husband. Their children seem to be great little beings, who seem to be well-adjusted and loved, but who do have colds and runny noses constantly.

I know that I'm probably being thought of as a two-headed monster right now, but nobody can care for children like the parents. And I tend to think that we do, as a society, require too many material things at the expense of our babies.

Btw, I was a single mother whose child spent long days with hired hands while I worked. (Until I married my second husband.)

[green 6]

From my reading on the subject, I would be inclined to agree with the above rant and to believe, furthermore, that children do need both parental figures in their lives. This is, I guess, where Green shows her conservative colours....