The miracle on the Hudson

[green 6]

Hi green, is that your last name or your favorite color? (for my last name is green):thumbup:

I don't praise God for good 'luck', but for good things that happen. I believe that at creation all was 'good', but Satan entered the scene and continues till this day to create havoc in the world. There are 2 spiritual forces (good and evil) and spiritual warfare that goes on all around us. Whenever the evil forces can, they will interefer in the worlds activities and try to bring about death and destruction. Life continues on. Sometimes evil prevails and sometimes good prevails. We can know the outcome of this spiritual war through reading the scriptures. In the end, Satan is defeated and cast into hell for all eternity and God will be forever glorified. I do not curse God for the 'bad' things that happen, I curse Satan. The spiritual warfare that is taking place is for the souls of mankind. Satan knows the outcome of his own fate as well and wants to take as many souls down with him as possible. God also trys to reach as many souls as possible. When christians pray, God hears their prayers and intervenes in situations.

Yes, Green is my family name, too. We do differ in that I am an atheist and thus do not believe in the supernatural. I think all the answers are to be found here on earth. I was raised to be skeptical by my father and this is why I am prone to taking apart and analysing items of received wisdom. I enjoy debate. Though you have been on the receiving end of this, you have not been specifically singled out.

What I can say is that you believe that God is Christian and is thus on your side. Those folks who adhere to Islam believe just as fervently that God...Allah is on their side. Who is to say that you are right and the Muslim is wrong? This was my only reason, by the way, for bringing up the events of 9/11. It is only a question of perspective in my view.

I must admit that I do find it repellent when the sole survivor of a disaster thanks God for looking out for him. I can only think, oh yeah, buddy, but why you and not all the rest of them? It is far easier to believe in the randomness of luck than to believe in the cruelty of such a super power, I think.

[green 6]

I would never agree with the statement that Allah blessed the terrorists for the deaths of 9/11. Don't forget that suicide bombers or terrorists are fanatics. Fanatics can be very harmful and from any faith such as Islam, Christianity, etc. 9/11 was horrendous, but so are abortion clinics that get bombed. Every religion has an unfortunate, but luckily small number of people who feel they are faithful believers and therefore are empowered to harm others in pursuit of faith over the centuries. While there may be a few people that feel it was their version of God's blessing that people died . . . that is certainly not the norm.

These people were definitely very lucky to be able to say, I crash landed in a body of Water while in an airplane without significant injury. :thumbup:

Whether that "luck" was God's blessing, blind luck, skill of the pilot, a small child sacrificing an ant with a magnifying glass so that other people may live, someone on board the plane wearing their "special" underwear, or gifts left for the blessed, invisible airline elves that dance in their panties under the full moon on the wings of the plane once a year . . . I am still happy they survived.

I feel much the same way as you do. I brought up this event for the purposes of debate, in order to show that different folks have different beliefs and that these beliefs can colour their perceptions of the rightness or wrongness of events. Obviously, those crazed fanatics figured that they were going to be sleeping with 72 virgins in paradise right about now. And so do their brother and sister fanatics.

[pattygreen 5]

Hey green, Heres a nice, clean joke for you. A man was driving down the street in a lather because he had an important meeting and couldn't find a parking space. Looking up to Heaven, he said, "Lord, take pity on me. If you find me a parking space, I promise to go to church every Sunday for the rest of my life and give up swearing." Miraculously, a spot opened right in front of the building. The man looked up and said, "Never mind, I found one." lol.

[green 6]

Hey green, Heres a nice, clean joke for you. A man was driving down the street in a lather because he had an important meeting and couldn't find a parking space. Looking up to Heaven, he said, "Lord, take pity on me. If you find me a parking space, I promise to go to church every Sunday for the rest of my life and give up swearing." Miraculously, a spot opened right in front of the building. The man looked up and said, "Never mind, I found one." lol.

That is a cute (and clean) joke and one that has a message: miracles do occur if one has but eyes to see them. Thanks for posting this.

[pattygreen 5]

I thought it was great that the crew from the plane was honored during the Super Bowl. They recieved a standing ovation, which was well deserved, I think.

[pattygreen 5]

Sully received the key to New York City today. The rest of the crew was at the ceremony also.