2 questions: shoulder pain after a fill & general food question

[Cleo's Mom 257]

I developed shoulder pain after my first fill on 11/11. On the same day. It feels much like the shoulder pain I had after surgery on 9/22 (which went away in a few weeks). I don't think it's a coincidence. Has this happened to anyone else?

Also, I have not lost any weight since the 2 weeks post-op liquid phase of my diet. Here is my biggest fear - having all the worst aspects of the band (pain, pressure, not being able to eat many foods, etc..) without the one benefit I wanted when I got this band - controlling my hunger. I know one fill doesn't usually do it - but I've already had one bad episode at Thanksgiving. After two bites of food - one stuffing and the other cornbread, I had major pain for a half an hour. I must have either eaten too big a bite or not chewed enough because I don't think it was the food itself. Anyway, any thoughts? I am frustrated at this point. Is it a trade off - pain in order to control hunger? I just read so much about people PBing and vomiting and having pain. I know myself and I will not lose weight unless my hunger is controlled. I weigh 183 now and have lost 63 pounds on my own and through all the dieting with this program and procedure.

[coltonwade 27]

I developed shoulder pain after my first fill on 11/11. On the same day. It feels much like the shoulder pain I had after surgery on 9/22 (which went away in a few weeks). I don't think it's a coincidence. Has this happened to anyone else?

Also, I have not lost any weight since the 2 weeks post-op liquid phase of my diet. Here is my biggest fear - having all the worst aspects of the band (pain, pressure, not being able to eat many foods, etc..) without the one benefit I wanted when I got this band - controlling my hunger. I know one fill doesn't usually do it - but I've already had one bad episode at Thanksgiving. After two bites of food - one stuffing and the other cornbread, I had major pain for a half an hour. I must have either eaten too big a bite or not chewed enough because I don't think it was the food itself. Anyway, any thoughts? I am frustrated at this point. Is it a trade off - pain in order to control hunger? I just read so much about people PBing and vomiting and having pain. I know myself and I will not lose weight unless my hunger is controlled. I weigh 183 now and have lost 63 pounds on my own and through all the dieting with this program and procedure.

Never had any shoulder pain after a fill , you should ask your doctor about that.

As for the PB after thanksgiving , Cornbread and stuffing , i think would make most bandsters PB ! bread is a big no no for me and so is stuffing ! Combine that with the possibility of not chewing well enough and or taking too big of bites your setting yourself up to PB . No its not a trade off, it does not have to be both, but to be 100% honest w/ you you have to have a few things ,

1. With the band comes common sense ... meaning if you know breads MIGHT Be a problem then IF You decide to eat them you have to make sure you chew them to a pulp . If after that you KNOW you chewed well and you get stuck , then dont eat them again .

2. With the band still has to come some self control.

You can still eat a bucket of ice cream if you tried, does that mean you do ? NO .

3. Does things get better w/ the fills . YES . BUt you have to have some patients, in the mean time do not sabatoage yourself.

One fill USUALLY is not going to give you restriction . Fills can take up to 2 weeks to kick in . If after a few weeks you do not feel like you have restriction go get another fill .

HTH

Mindy

[Cleo's Mom 257]

Thank you Mindy for your response. I am going to ask my doctor about the shoulder pain. If he doesn't think it's related to the banding or fill (and he probably won't) then I am going to my PCP. As for the stuffing and cornbread - I had eaten stuffing before but only in those frozen diet dinners. And I thought cornbread was crumbly not sticky like rolls- but I do think I took too big of a bite and didn't chew. I will say this in all honesty - food does not taste good to me now. After all that chewing it just loses its taste to me. I will adhere to the diet and continue with fills but I haven't enjoyed food in a long time and I certainly haven't been satisfied with eating. I don't identify with a lot of the eating histories of people on this board. I didn't eat fast food or a gallon of ice cream or have a lot of junk food in the house. I just ate more calories of normal food than I burned. And I did this over 30+ years. I am 57. I am not unhappy with the weight I am now but to lose more weight I am going to need some help from this band.

[coltonwade 27]

A good rule of thumb is anything that can expand in water/ or in your stomach can get stuck , bread, rice Pasta, ect.

So if you think it could expand try a little OR what i do is eat it last and just a bite or too.

I understand what you mean about not identifying with a lot of the food issues. I was a grazier , I did not binge eat , or anything i just ate a little but often . So probably similar to you ate more than i burned. So i understand how it can be frustrating .

I will tell you that food for me now is more abotu quality , Good FRESH , well seasoned food. I eat healtiher now than I ever have in my life.

Food is just food now its more about eating to live !

Feel free to email me at if you like to talk .

Mindy

Thank you Mindy for your response. I am going to ask my doctor about the shoulder pain. If he doesn't think it's related to the banding or fill (and he probably won't) then I am going to my PCP. As for the stuffing and cornbread - I had eaten stuffing before but only in those frozen diet dinners. And I thought cornbread was crumbly not sticky like rolls- but I do think I took too big of a bite and didn't chew. I will say this in all honesty - food does not taste good to me now. After all that chewing it just loses its taste to me. I will adhere to the diet and continue with fills but I haven't enjoyed food in a long time and I certainly haven't been satisfied with eating. I don't identify with a lot of the eating histories of people on this board. I didn't eat fast food or a gallon of ice cream or have a lot of junk food in the house. I just ate more calories of normal food than I burned. And I did this over 30+ years. I am 57. I am not unhappy with the weight I am now but to lose more weight I am going to need some help from this band.