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My teen is going through this diet stuff with me. As independant as she is she is copying everything I do. Makes me realize she has been following my eating habit for quite awhile..............she is eating up all this nutrition, Vitamins, protiens, Fiber, Water and low carb stuff. She is thrilled that I am into all this now with her...........she also pushes me to exercise but is a bit of a nag too.........you only did 20 minutes not 30 mom........sorta annoying.

She is also coming to Pinole with me on the 25th. She wants to be part of the nutrition class!! Never mind I keep telling her that it is for WLS............I only worry what she will blurt out to Dr. Baggs..........cause she did that at the last support meeting........."mom you have not been exercising enough" in front of everyone!! LOL..........I told her not to disclose my business this time but with her who knows!! Funny kid!!

anyway she is off school for the summer and probably coming for the next few appointments...........than out to the Jelly Belly Factory and outlets..........maybe Marine World.

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I MADE IT TO ONE-DERLAND!! So happy about that . . . . still having a hard time with head hunger and not stopping eating when I know that I should! The little area around my band says to stop (and I mean RIGHT NOW), but the entire rest of me says eat it, there's still part of a serving left, you want that in your mouth, etc. Even if I get up and walk around for 10 minutes, I stil want it when I come back! SO frustrating, I really need to get a handle on this!!

Candra and Heather, you girls are kickin' BUT on you weight loss! Holy moley! And Tina, 9000 on the pedometer! I am so proud of you!

Government work sucks right now, I am taking a 10% salary cut AND paying $800 MORE for insurance for my kids starting right now. There is no way I can pay my bills like this! It is all very stressful. And me without CARBS to deal with it!! Yikes! At least I have excercise . . .

Going to a nascar party now, got to go pack my own food to take because they will have nothing but chips, garlic bread and beer there. The joys of hanging out with the "old" crowd . . . but hey! I got my little sassy A-line cut and I LOVE IT!!!

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I know about the band saying stop and RIGHT NOW!! I totally know that feeling..........and I like you want to eat the rest. And I have to admit that sometimes after I get too full I just wait about 10 minutes and than suddenly it will go down..........still not eating bad things or too much. But really I think I need to stop when it is time and not feel bad about the 3/4's left on my plate!!

Waiting to find out about my job too?? I should hear something this week. Forlough? Lose health benefits? Layoff? Paycut? I just don't know yet..................I am a single parent so everything is on my back financially!!

But what can you do..........when I get this stressed I lose my apetite so all is good in that regard.

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WHOO HOO - ONE-DERLAND!!!!! GO RILEY, GO RILEY, GO RILEY. Gongratulations girl - you did it! Got tired of the scenic route, didja?? LOL

yeah, Tina, I liked her - she asked me about the president too and I just answered - it was when she asked me where I was that I got me started - LOL. I told her about these little 1/2 cup containers when she asked what I was doing to prepare for this - I told her she should start handing out packs of them to her clients. It has relly helped me not to over-eat. I don't have to think about it - just grab one & that's that.

so sorry about your head hunger ladies - I haven't been feeling that latetly at all but I do know the feeling as if it was a parasitic twin of mine. It must be because I've removed all carbs. Dr. Fisher said "caucasions don't do well with carbs" LOL. He said to get rid of them all with the exception of low carb, non starchy veggies. He even said to get rid of the fruit! It really works!!

Oh, while I was waiting for Dr. Schnurr, Robin came in and was talking crap about some girl to the other ladies in the room - about how "she needs to put down the spoon - She should be way beyond where she is since she had RNY." So, Tina, I think that just may be in her nature to expect everything to happen overnight - don't let her tell you your weight loss isn't fast enough!!

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Ok well 2000 steps so far today .........but I rode my bike three miles in 27 minutes. I don't know if that is a world record or not!! LOL. But I forgot about the pedometer and was so disappointed when I got off the bike and realized that I didn't get any steps added for all that work...........should have chosen the treadmill instead.

On the other hand I was sorta wondering how many miles I could ride in a week, 2 weeks...........well before the 25th anyway. I wonder if I could hit 50?

I don't think Robin should be talking crap where other patients can hear. That is totally unprofessional. I would so get fired for that were I work and with HIPPA laws........not liking that attitude. If she would do it once.............well you know!! She is very young though and still learning the ropes.........I sometimes wish they had someone doing the nutrition stuff that has a bit more time under her belt..........learning to work well with people and motivate them is skill that takes time to develop................a team approach and encouragement works better than the domineering approach.............but ya know she is learning some of it from Liz...........I guess maybe some patients do need that............when someone gets in my face I tend to match them with my attitude...............but Liz was coole with me...........Robin has been ok in person.........I just sorta made it clear inthe beginning that I don't like to be talked to like that..............in a nice way!! LOL. I think more as an equal and don't want to be talked down to....................boundaries and rules .............yep that I can deal with.........I like that clear cut but for goodness sake treat me like an adult...............

Ok ladies I am going to see a movie with my daughter.........nonfat hot chocolate here I come!!

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Caucasions and carbs? Where did Dr. Fisher get this theory?? Interesting but is it scientific or observation? In his line of work I am guessing he know exactly what he is talking about but I have never heard this before. I know it to be true for me.................now I am gonna have to do some research!!

Ok I went to the library today and got some books on weight loss and head hunger/psychological addiction as it is call in the field......also a couple of biographies but someone who lose 100 pounds and one who had gastric bypass..........some casual reading..........NOT!!

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Ok I Know I am on a roll but here is something interesting and I hope not to technical. HEad hunger defined.

Psychological dependency is a dependency of the mind, and leads to psychological withdrawal symptoms (such as cravings, irritability) Addiction can in theory be derived from any rewarding behaviour, and is believed to be strongly associated with the dopaminergic system Some claim that it is a means to avoid undesired activity, but typically it is only so to a clinical level in individuals who have emotional, social, or psychological dysfunctions , replacing normal positive stimuli not otherwise attained (A person who is physically dependent, but not psychologically dependent can have their dose slowly dropped until they are no longer dependent. However, if that person is psychologically dependent, they are still at serious risk for relapse into abuse and subsequent physical dependence.[citation needed]

Psychological dependence does not have to be limited only to substances; even activities and behavioural patterns can be considered addictions, if they become uncontrollable, e.g.

[/url] " , sexual addiction / pornography addiction,   eating ,   self-injury ,   compulsive buying , or   work addiction .

This pertains alot to substance abuse and drug addict/my career but I do think that at the core alot of this psychological addiction stuff relates to food/head hunger and emotional eating as well.

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I agree with you about Robin - I've never actualy met her though - just listened to her at orientation & then heard her conversation yesterday. She shouldn't have said anything about that girl to anybody else, but if she felt the need to vent - she shouldn't have done it in front of me & my husband - or any other patient. It just makes me not want to meet with her because once I leave, who knows what she'll say about me and to whom.

I went through many years of Ala-teen & Ala-non and the stuff in that book sounds like what we learned in those sessions - in less technical terms - LOL.

I don't know what the relation to carbs & us white folks but I do know that sugar has a dopamine effect and that causes the head hunger roll. Since I've cut it out I haven't had that head hunger as much - just when I smell something sweet i find it extremely hard to walk away - "Hi, name is Candra and I'm a food addict" :blink:

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Hey ladies!!!

Tina he wrote the 23rd on my paperwork!!!

Wow lots of intresting things.......I find that although I dont eat much when I am in social enviroments I struggle......ggggrrrr...I feel like I would be so much further if I could stop eating when I'm not hungry.....

I can do this.....I have to remind myself I went through surgery......I cant blow this....

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Hey candy

I know what you mean. I keep telling myself the same thing. I went through surgery and I have to get down to goal weight.............I know I have lost 40 pounds but I didn't go through all the trauma for that...........but certainly is a much slower process than I though.............I thought the weight loss would speed up after surgery not slow down....................

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I know Tina...I told my husband today that I thought maybe I should have got Gastric bypass....I know I dont totally think that...but dang I thouht it would be a little easier than this.....I keep trying to tell myself at least I haven't gained

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I hear ya candy. I still have my RNY days. My debating days. I really went through surgery for results not more of the same. I still don't think at 40.5 that RNY was right for me...........but I guess I still have alot of my quick fix mentality. I just sometimes wonder what the band is doing since I am having to work my butt off and still diet!! I have some restriction but........is this it?

I don't know. I guess all bandsters go through this............frustration.

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This is bandster hell girls. We can't expect real restriction for a few fills! Everything we lose right now is pretty much due to sheer will power and Portion Control. It will happen though! In a few months I'm sure we'll all have great restriction and will be losing a steady 2-3 lbs a week!

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I think you are right on Christine. I know I didn't want the RNY just part of bandster hell........................

candy your right at least we are not gaining!! That is a victory for me!!

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