TwinsItIs 0 Posted November 16, 2008 I read some posts, but still don't get it. What's the differences between the Realize vs the lap band? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacMadame 81 Posted November 17, 2008 There isn't a lot. The Realize band is softer and not pre-shaped. The balloon/reservoir is bigger. The buckle is bigger too. The port has claws that attach to the muscle wall instead of being sewn (though it can also be sewn). But they both work on the same principle and have similar results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwinsItIs 0 Posted November 17, 2008 There isn't a lot. The Realize band is softer and not pre-shaped. The balloon/reservoir is bigger. The buckle is bigger too. The port has claws that attach to the muscle wall instead of being sewn (though it can also be sewn). But they both work on the same principle and have similar results. Thank you for your response. Claws? That sounds scary. Can't it move out of place? Doesn't it hurt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacMadame 81 Posted November 17, 2008 The claws are supposed to hold it in better and keep the port from flipping. Only time will tell if this works better than the Allergen way. Oh and the Realize port is low-profile while with the LapBand® you have to ask for that as an option. I forgot about that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwinsItIs 0 Posted November 17, 2008 The claws are supposed to hold it in better and keep the port from flipping. Only time will tell if this works better than the Allergen way. Oh and the Realize port is low-profile while with the LapBand® you have to ask for that as an option. I forgot about that one. Thanks for the information. I will definitely discuss this with my doctor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockbandster 0 Posted December 12, 2008 They do have similar results until year 5 - Year one excess weight loss with Realize is 30%, Lapband AP is 62% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwinsItIs 0 Posted December 12, 2008 Meaning you lose more with the Lap Band AP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockbandster 0 Posted December 12, 2008 well that really depends on you but...in comparing the clinical trials, the lapband AP first year weight loss is twice as much as the realize band. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockbandster 0 Posted December 12, 2008 Keep in mind the Realize Band is 14 years old, its the old Swedish Band from Europe in a new box with a new name. The LapBand AP the newest and latest band on the market. Don't be fooled by Johnson and Johnsons' BS marketing tactics. The Lapband AP is the most effective gastric band in the world.PERIOD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwinsItIs 0 Posted December 12, 2008 Keep in mind the Realize Band is 14 years old, its the old Swedish Band from Europe in a new box with a new name. The LapBand AP the newest and latest band on the market. Don't be fooled by Johnson and Johnsons' BS marketing tactics. The Lapband AP is the most effective gastric band in the world.PERIOD. I'm confused. Which band does JJ market? And if the Lap Band AP is the newest, how do you know it's the most effective? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockbandster 0 Posted December 12, 2008 J&J Markets the Realize Band, again which is the Swedish Band from 1994 in a new box I read the clinical trials, it's in black and white. Clinical Trials take place well before the product is released to the market. Otherwise, it doesn't get released to the public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacMadame 81 Posted December 13, 2008 Wow, rockbandster, you never give up do you? If you look at many studies of lap bands, the two bands perform the same both in the short term and long term. If you just pick out one study, you can find ones that make Lap-band look bad or ones that make the Realize band look bad compared to each other. But if you look at all the studies, you see that average EWL is similar with both bands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockbandster 0 Posted December 14, 2008 Macmadame-Please cite some of these studies, ID love to see them..Talk is cheap..Site a study where the Realize Band and the LapBand AP have similar weight loss. Please provide some clinical proof instead of opinions. If you have read these studies which it seems you have, please validate these claims. Also keep in mind the LapBand is NO LONGER IMPLANTED. Everyone uses the LAP BAND AP THIRD GENERATION BAND. Looking at studies for implants that are no longer used wont be helping anyone because no one gets the old lap bands anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacMadame 81 Posted December 14, 2008 It's not true that the older Lap-bands are no longer implanted. Just look around here and see what people report. Someone in the intro section just this week reported getting one of the Lap-bands where the reservoir only holds 5 ccs. That's even older than the ones just before the AP line. I quoted the studies before and so did other people. Just read back in this thread and all the others you've posted your same four lies in. I don't know why you have such a hate-on for the Realize band. It's just a band, not a tool of the devil. Many people have used it and are doing quite well with it. As you say, it's been around for over 10 years so it's not like we don't know what kind of results it gets and only a handful of people have it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockbandster 0 Posted December 15, 2008 Anyone who still gets an old lapband when the AP is out needs to discuss his or her surgeons choices - that makes no sense What study?--if you quoted it before - do it again- show me a 62% EWL with the Realize Band at 12 months Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
