Gadgetlady, The Watcher, and all in between...

[aprilapple 1]

Thank God FDR believed that the government's job was to rescue Americans from poverty!

[BethFromVA 5]

Yes, cuz that's worked soooo well. Like everything else the government thinks they can do. :w00t:

Strange that in 70 years we have... more poverty.

[aprilapple 1]

Actually it did.

[BethFromVA 5]

If it worked, it would still work. From what I can tell, we still have the poor. I know this because Obama wants to give them more of my hard-earned money.

[gadgetlady 4]

he still thinks mccain was better suited for the dem ticket...whole other story.

I agree with him.

[BethFromVA 5]

Ditto.

If I was a dem (perish the thought), I would vote McCain.

[BethFromVA 5]

Excellent, Jack!

I fear, however, that it will go over a few too many heads. Facts don't seem to hold up too well in the nation these days. :w00t:

[gadgetlady 4]

When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. ~ Benjamin Franklin

Truer words were never spoken.

[gadgetlady 4]

Those are the reasons I ask myself WTF am I doing in Houston, TX? Humidity, mosquitos and large bugs aside, the living is pretty easy here. Great career opportunities, relatively low cost of living and the real esate bubble hasn't been nearly as bad here as it has in the rest of the country.

I grew up in Southern California where the weather is, IMO, almost perfect. I'm totally spoiled. Every time I go anywhere else I'm always inconvenienced by the weather (too hot, too humid, too dry, too cold, I have to pack too much, I sweat too much, I get bloody noses because it's too dry, etc.). Add to that the fact that I'm allergic to mosquito bites (I swell up like no tomorrow) and there aren't a lot of places I'd be very happy to move to.

Every time we travel, we try to figure out if it's a potential alternative to Southern California (the operative factors being: weather, politics, taxation, and existence [or lack] of socialized medicine). So far no places hit the mark on the last 3 factors, and on the weather one we tend to like Gibraltar and maybe Portugal, Spain, or Italy (depending on where in those countries).

[Ricky 6]

Well put Jack...unfortunately people aren't too interested in facts these days..

[green 6]

No doubt. lol

Doubtful. Lefties are the most radically hateful bunch of people I have ever seen.

Then again, Canada is spoon fed the leftist news. My friend still has family who lives there and they don't get anything but the leftist agenda, so no wonder everybody there is ignorant to the fact that there is any better way. Kinda bordering on communistic in its application, "eh"?

Once again, you are talking from a position of ignorance and spitefulness. This unpleasant tone and unwillingness to see other viewpoints seem to be characteristic of you. It is obvious that you have never travelled and that you don't read much.

The reason Canadians are peaceful is because this country enjoys a high degree of affluence. People who are healthy, well-educated, and who enjoy a high standard of living don't have much to complain about or to rebel over. We are too busy enjoying our lives. Our country is not torn apart by an election (we had one recently and elected a Conservative government), we do not have the kind of poverty that we have seen in New Orleans, etc, we have a surplus, not a debt, and, though the media is much more to the left, I subscribe to a very right wing national newspaper. This is just how we Canadians like it. Our weather does suck, however....

[BethFromVA 5]

Just because you don't like the message doesn't mean I'm spiteful, ignorant, or unlearned. I know you wish that was the case, but that is standard MO for those who would rather shoot the messenger than hear the message.

I just don't have it in me to spend my life with my fingers in my ears singing, "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA" all the live-long day.

[clusk 0]

Bethfromva

Do you wake up in that mood?

[BethFromVA 5]

Bethfromva

Do you wake up in that mood?

Why the personal dig? I could have asked you if you were born a bitch or if you just practice every day, but I didn't. :biggrin:

Put your claws away. Your oh-so-tolerant democratic side is showing.

[BethFromVA 5]

Hadda share:

Some thoughts to take into the voting booth!

OBAMA'S 'NOT EXACTLYS'

> 1.) Selma Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google' Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)

> 2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

> 3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACT LY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

> 4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone.

Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.

> 5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

> 6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic20and so is Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....

http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African

> 7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in islam'' http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559

> 8.) My School In Indonesia was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'

> 9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

> 10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

> 11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Aff airs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

> 12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

> 13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

> 14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My outlook on Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

> 15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV,

> that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

> 16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

> 17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

> 18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

> 19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

> 20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.

> 21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

> 22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

> 23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

> 24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

> 25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and ev en YOU voted against your own bill.

> 26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

> 27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

> 28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

> 29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel .

> 30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.

> 31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

> 32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

> 33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice20Palmer from running against you.

> 34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

> 35.) I don't Have Lobbysists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

> 36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

> 37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.

> 38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it

> GOD HELP US IF WE JUST SIT IDLY BY AND LET THIS PERSON BECOME OUR NEXT PRESIDENT. IT WOULD BE SUICIDAL FOR US TO DO NOTHING TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING. PASS THIS ON TO ALL THE ONES YOU VALUE, JUST AS I AM DOING. IT'S TIME THE 'SILENT MAJORITY' TAKE A STAND! GET OUT AND VOTE! PLEASE!