This has been done to death

[Ceradad 10]

No man....You're just one of the Enlightened ones. Some people just don't get it

I know, but sometimes I feel bad. I feel like I am starting to think like "normal" people have always thought about me. The only difference is, I have tried to help out others by giving them my experiences and what I have learned since I started this journey. I guess if they aren't willing to take my lessons learned the hard way, there is nothing I can do.

At least I know what they are struggling with. Unlike "normal" people who judge w/o ever having gone through this addiction.

Btw plain, looks like you and I started at the same measurements and are shooting for about the same goal. I think we may have discussed this in the past on other threads. Great job so far. Keep up the great work.

[Great2BThin 5]

I know, but sometimes I feel bad. I feel like I am starting to think like "normal" people have always thought about me. The only difference is, I have tried to help out others by giving them my experiences and what I have learned since I started this journey. I guess if they aren't willing to take my lessons learned the hard way, there is nothing I can do.

At least I know what they are struggling with. Unlike "normal" people who judge w/o ever having gone through this addiction.

Btw plain, looks like you and I started at the same measurements and are shooting for about the same goal. I think we may have discussed this in the past on other threads. Great job so far. Keep up the great work.

Sometimes the only way a person learns is the hard way instead of listening to someone who's been there done that. But I wonder is it a lesson better learnt if one has to learn it the hard way.

And while there's nothing wrong with having to learn things the hard way what I get tired of on the boards is when someone is trying to help someone else, possibly sparing them 'the hard way' the anger the person asking for the help lashes out with at the person trying to help them. I mean really, one posts asking for help, gets it and then doesn't like it and gets angry. That doesn't make sense, if they genuinely wanted help in the first place.

[Nanook 2]

Ceradad,

I take issue with the term "normal" people. Are large size people not normal? I hope you don't really feel that way as that would really be sad, Nancy.

[luluc 6]

Ceradad,

I take issue with the term "normal" people. Are large size people not normal? I hope you don't really feel that way as that would really be sad, Nancy.

brandy - i'm sure ceradad, when using the term normal meant (normal weight - those who have never had weight issues). he's certainly not the type to infer differently.

[Ceradad 10]

Ceradad,

I take issue with the term "normal" people. Are large size people not normal? I hope you don't really feel that way as that would really be sad, Nancy.

As I can be a tad defensive when I feel I am being attacked unfairly, and when you are reading the written word you cannot infer any tones that you can from speech patterns, I am going trying to fight off the compulsion to be nasty here. Plus, it's been one of those weeks already.

That being said, when someone uses quotation marks, " ", around a word, they do not mean the literal version of that word. I mean people who consider themselves "normal". Not recovering fathletes like myself.

[Nanook 2]

Thanks for the clarification I just want to make sure that we don't label fat people as anything less human or not as "good" as others as it's something we face every day of our lives, Nancy.:thumbup:

[Ceradad 10]

Thanks for the clarification I just want to make sure that we don't label fat people as anything less human or not as "good" as others as it's something we face every day of our lives, Nancy.:thumbup:

If you do a search of my posts, you will see that I never label fat people as "lesser" people.

[Nanook 2]

That's OK I trust you. Sometimes we read something and it hits us where the writer doesn't expect, which probably happened with you too! Take care Nancy

[Kat817 19]

My DIL has gained a lot of weight and is constantly telling me how bad she needs to lose weight, and how she wishes they could afford for her to have band surgery. I leep telling her the same thing---start eating like a bandster and see if that helps, and save money. My catch phrase for my kids when they whine about the same things over and over through the years has always been......

"Then CHANGE something, because nothing will change if you don't"

It didn't matter if it was an algebra problem, or this weight loss. If you are not willing to make changes, then nothing will change. Those changes relate to diet as well as exercise.

We get people in and out all the time with different issues in regards to those 2 issues------food and exercise. Heck I have issues with them!!!

I have a tumor in my leg bone, and high impact is not an option for me-------I cannot run like so many of our successful bandsters do, it is that simple, I cannot do that, so I better figure out what I CAN do!

We have a farm, and I can ride, and I buck bales of hay, and I haul wood, and I pour cement---------none of these do I do EVERY single day----but I do them, and I do them much more comfortably now than I did in the beginning! I used to drive the truck when we bucked bales, now I take it as an opportunity to get exercise in. Same with the cement, I used to be indoors, making the sandwiches, and keeping the beer cold----now I see exercise!!! Those are changes I could make and did. And in the end it changed lots of things, it worked muscles that toned up nicely for me, and it give me time with my DH I was missing out on!

I too had a birthday this last weekend, and I celebrated it! I do not count calories, or fat, or anything, I just seriously try to eat in a healthy manner.

Relying totally on restriction with your food intake is a false security, and if you do not work to learn about what foods nutritional make up is, then I personally think you are setting yourself up for failure! The band and the restriction is supplied, and the hunger control issues it helped with, allowed me to feel for myself, exactly how my body reacts to the sugar high, and the carb cravings----and for me knowing what to expect, makes dealing with them easier when it happens.

Just like you referred to in your earlier (maybe original, not sure!!) post to thinking you could fit in another small portion, and instead getting up and moving away from the food. I find doing that is like a double edged sword, while it is REALLY hard to do-----when I do it, I feel empowered and so damn proud that I CAN do that!! But if you don't do it, you never know the pride that comes with it!

I live in a rural area, and there are not support groups available to me, nor is there a nutritionist available. But information on proper nutrition is as easy to locate as this website, if you can log on here, you can log on to many a site to learn about healthy options in eating.

I had a total unfill 4 months ago in preparation for my TT, and have continued to slowly drop on down in weight, getting very close to my goal. As for now, I have no plans to make the drive to get filled again, it is a 6 hour drive one way, and I am doing fine without it. But I am glad to know it is there if I should need the help!

I think people cringe at the thought of exercise, for some it is like the idea of going to church, the organized faction of each is a turn off. But you can exercise without hitting a gym, same as you can worship your God without going into a church building. You just have to set your mind to do it, and DO IT!!! And while some people may be able to lose weight without working out, you have to figure, they may be losing weight, but they are also likely losing their health.

It is worth doing for yourself.

Kat

[luluc 6]

kat - wanna bale my hay?? see i also do it w/a cold beer, but this yr it's going to be a breeze **i think*

great post.

[Kat817 19]

Even with over 100 pounds gone, the hay is not a breeze---it is ALWAYS work!!!! But I move a lot better, can climb up and down on the trailer, and lift the bales much easier than I used to!

We have 2 fields that will be ready this week---makes me cringe to think about it!!! LOL

As for the beer, I have had some, but I can no longer tip back a can and just take a few swallows no matter how hot or how thirsty I am, the carbonation in beer is just tooooooo much for me! Instead, if I have beer, I usually have it draft at a local mexican food restaurant, and even then end up giving the last half to DH before it gets warm, it is just too bubbly!!

Margaritas go down just fine though!!!

Kat

[luluc 6]

3 fields for me - but it's RAINED for the first time in forever & not sure when i can the tractor out. make no mistakes - ranch work is HARD work.

add more cattle to the picture like DH did before he took off to NZ/Aust - and i'm worn out, after my normal workouts.

this time last yr i had to hire ranch hands to help me with our fields - not the present; i'm handling it all on my own w/ 8 dogs now - 3 horses - 4 cows, and - 12 long horns.....gidde up''''

[Kat817 19]

We too have 3 separate fields, but we did one this weekend, so 2 to go. Normally in years past we ran cattle (still do on our place in central TX) but this year rather than sell off calves, we sold them ALL!!! And are just growing and selling hay. Making more $$$ too!!! LOL

It is impressive that you are doing it alone. I can cut and bale without issue----the tractor and the swather and I get along fine...but to get to the back field takes some more careful manuevering through gates with the swather---not my specialty!!! Rick gets it in the field, and I cut, while he removes irrigation pipe from the front field!!! I guess if I were in your situation I would learn!!!

Our place in TX we simply graze it, no cutting. We go down between 3-4 times a year. We have a cousin who owns the adjoining property and he runs cattle as well, so he keeps an eye on ours, and checks our fence lines once a week or so. We go down and sell off calves, and also once a year in the late fall, because we also have a pecan grove on the place, so we go to harvest once the cold snap hits.

There is ALWAYS something to do!!!

Kat

[Gracey 7]

I too had a birthday this last weekend

Happy Belated and oh HELL YEA to margaritas!!!

[plain 12]

Kat and Lulac - what kind of antiquated farms are y'all running with loading those square bales?!? C'mon ladies...The round bales load much easier with the tractor, LOL

Kat - excellent point about the exercise, and one which I think a lot of people miss...Exercise doesn't always mean doing activity X for Y minutes Z times a week. Just get moving doing anything at first.

Ceradad - you're leaving me in the dust, dude!! Awesome loss...