Should people barely over 200 lbs or below 200 get Lapband or any WLS...?

[Jachut 487]

I agree Chickie, wanting to lose weight and not likeing the way you look at a certain weight does not mean you have an unhealthy self image. You can KNOW that you're a good person, that your values are solid, that you're raising good kids, you're talented at x, y and z, and still think you look terrible. Liking the way you look is not the only aspect to self image.

Not everyone has to buy into the size zero deal, which is not really healthy either. But seriously, maybe its me and my own self image but I just really dont get how someone can look at themselves at a BMI of 40 or 45 or 50 and really LIKE the way they look. That doesnt equate with thinking "I'm a fat worthless slob who doesnt deserve to be loved by anyone", that's just objective, shit my arse is HUGE, I cant wear anything I like, I look unhealthy and could look SO much better.

If you ask me (which probably isnt a good idea, lol), people with healthy self image are the ones that finally take charge and try to DO something about their weight (even if its not easy or particularly successful, they keep trying), and ones with poor self image are often the ones that dont really believe deep down that they deserve any better than to be fat and die young - they make token efforts, give up at the first opportunity or make no effort at all.

Gross gross generalisation of course *ducks for cover*.

[She Smiles 2]

Come on out from under that cover Jacqui, you always have a lot of well thought out and intelligent wisdom to share. Others, not so much

[MacMadame 81]

Not everyone has to buy into the size zero deal, which is not really healthy either.

Ahem, for a short person, a size 0 (US) is not particularly unhealthy.

[Michee 2]

US/Canadian sizes are VERY generous.

I am "overweight" according to BMI, and on friday I bought a pair of size 4 pants. (okay, I am NOT complaining)

So conceivably I will be in a size 0, and will be in the high end of "normal" according to BMI

I think in European sizes I am probably a 10/12.

[Carrie_C 9]

I read somewhere that being obese is equivalant to smoking one pack of cigareetes a day.

[Froggi 4]

just agreeing and stating an opinion... the ignore works both ways.

Trust me, I've tried adding you to my ignore list.:thumbdown: It's not possible to ignore moderators/admins.

[green 6]

I think it's so insane that one little post upset so many as it wasn't intended to.

First of all I commend a doctor who doesn't take anyone's money to do this surgery. It shows he has some scruples. It's not only doctors who have strict criteria it's the insurance companies that are dictating who gets this surgery and it's very common for an insurance company to expect you to have a BMI of 40 or have a BMI of 35+ with multiple comorbs. Mine did and I'm sure there are plenty others.

I met that criteria without a problem. I admit there was information I was lacking before getting the lap band and it didn't work out for me as planned. Mistake made. Lap banding may not seem as drastic or invasive as RNY etc... but it's still surgery and there are still many risks and there are still chances it may not work or eventually you'll have complications and have to have it removed anyway, possibly struggle with weight gain again and consider revision surgery.

I feel bad for self pay people also because I can't imagine what happens when you have complications and have to pay for that down the road.

Anyway it was a simple poll posted by Froggi and possibly made people think about what they were doing especially with such low BMIs. Maybe a bit of work on learning to love ourselves at a heavier weight is more important and constantly struggling to be a certain size dictated by our society and shoved in our faces constantly. And having surgery for that purpose might be a bit extreme even if it is only a lap band. Just a thought Nancy.:thumbdown:

Are you nuts? I have been heavy and I have, thanks to the band, been a normal size and believe you me, life as a normoloid is just so much better! The clothes are great! Folks treat you better.

There is no reason why one should settle for being an over-weight woman and trying to love the sight of yourself in your ugly big grrl clothes when the technology exists where you can do something about this situation. I live in the heart of a big city and women here tend to be slim, elegant and well-dressed. After I hit menopause at the early age of 41 I started packing on the lard. By the time I was 57 I was fat and I was terribly ashamed of my appearance. Now, I get to wear the kind of clothes they show in fashion magazines. I am always getting compliments on my appearance and my clothes. And I get to wear belts, for Gawd's sakes!!! Belts!

For people like me, people with Portion Control problems the lap band is a brilliant tool and worth every penny I paid for it. Why put up with something when you can fix it?

[losingjusme 12]

Trust me, I've tried adding you to my ignore list.:thumbdown: It's not possible to ignore moderators/admins.

and as a mod, its not really proper to ignore users.

that's ok, i need a good eyeroll and shake of the head a few times a day.

[Froggi 4]

and as a mod, its not really proper to ignore users.

that's ok, i need a good eyeroll and shake of the head a few times a day.

As an admin/mod you shouldn't be so judgemental of people. But hey what do I know...I'm immature and jealous of everyone.:thumbdown:

Edited August 31, 2008 by Froggi

[losingjusme 12]

As an admin/mod you shouldn't be so judgemental of people. But hey what do I know...I'm immature and jealous of everyone.:thumbdown:

well, not only am i an admin/mod, i am a regular user.

you said it!

[Froggi 4]

well, not only am i an admin/mod, i am a regular user.

you said it!

Oh yeah okay....I was being a smart ass...something you should know all too much about. I'm done with you.

[Carrie_C 9]

This is getting way too personal.

[She Smiles 2]

This is getting way too personal.

Welcome to another day in paradise, erm, I mean rants and raves :thumbdown:

[Gone4Now 4]

Can anyone hear me?

After reading some of this crap - I am screaming.

[losingjusme 12]

I dunno glou, I can't hear anything ...