Just. Not. Fair.

[Marimaru 7]

Size 16 Miss England hopeful Chloe unveils a curvy look in first official bikini shoot | the Daily Mail

I am very happy for this girl. I am glad she has the confidence to do something like that. I am about the same size as her, maybe a little smaller, (assuming we are talking about the same size 16 here), and I have to say MY STOMACH DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THAT. I would be SO much happier if it did. But no, I practically have a muffin top even if I'm NEKKID.

Okay, I'm done whining now. :cursing:

[Ang1982 4]

Just read the article and have to say wow she looks great and good on her for breaking into that industry that is all about very thin women. She looks fantastic.

[shortgal 5]

she's five feet 10 inches and about 175 pounds according to the article.

[Marimaru 7]

Sounds like maybe she's close to a US 12... I'm still gonna whine, cuz I still wont have that tummy when I'm a 12, lol. :cursing:

[snuffy65 1]

she's five feet 10 inches and about 175 pounds according to the article.

That wold put her at about the "healthy range" at that height and weight.

As I guy, she looks great. (err, I know she is only 17).

However, if she was severly overwieght or obese I might have problem with it. Not because she would not look good enough, but because I think it would send a bad message to other girls. I am sorry, even those I am morbidly obese, I think children should grow up thinking healthy.

But again, the girl looks great, glad she had the confidents to go through with it and hope to see pageants more like that over in the U.S.

[shortgal 5]

Kind of sad that she is at a healthy weight for her height but is standing out as an "exception" to the "normal" beauty queen.

Assuming her stats listed are accurate.

[Daisalana 33]

Yeah, I'll be the black sheep.. I don't think she looks good there in that bikini.

I've seen other pics of her, and have been cheering her on, but when I saw that pic the other day I had to cringe.

Maybe if she had a better cut bikini it'd look alright, but eh.

[Chickie 15]

Yeah, I'll be the black sheep.. I don't think she looks good there in that bikini.

I've seen other pics of her, and have been cheering her on, but when I saw that pic the other day I had to cringe.

Maybe if she had a better cut bikini it'd look alright, but eh.

I have to agree. She doesn't really look that good in that bikini. The cut is wrong for her, and she needs more support for the girls.

That said, she is a gorgeous young woman.

[snuffy65 1]

Here's a comment from Monica Grenfell ( a formal Miss England Judge).

Feted and fawned over for her courage in daring to break the mould, Chloe boasts she wants to be an "ambassador for curves".

Who on earth does she think she's kidding? What she's demonstrating isn't bravery but a shocking lack of self-control.

Instead of flaunting her figure, Chloe ought to own up to the truth. She is fat and she got that way by over-eating.

She does a pretty good job explaning herself. Heres the article if your interested, although she didn't convince me.

A role model for ordinary women? No, Miss England finalist is fat, lazy and a poster girl for ill health | the Daily Mail

[Chickie 15]

According to the article she has a BMI of 26 (overweight) so saying she is a healthy weight is wrong.

This is actually a really good example of why people think that a healthy BMI looks unhealthy. By holding this girl up, and saying that she is the picture of health and womanhood (at a BMI of 26 at 17 years old) We are saying that anyone any thinner is NOT healthy and womanly. And that's wrong. Yes she is a beautiful girl. Very beautiful in fact. But she IS overweight. She is not a healthy weight.

[Fanny Adams 7]

A size 16 in the UK is the equivalent of a US size 12. That being said, I think she could affort to lose 20lb or so. I don't like the stick thin look but for a beauty queen, she is a little overweight. For her height, she should probably be a UK14 (US 10) at most and would probably look better as a UK12 (US 8). I'm quite a bit shorter and I'd be happy at a UK12 but at her age I was a UK 10, which is a US 6. I was very curvy still at that size, not a stick figure at all. I think the US 4/2/0 sizes are too thin for most women, but a US12 is big for a young beauty queen.

International size conversions: Clothing sizes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edited April 6, 2008 by Fanny Adams

[juliegeraci 7]

Funny, I'm 5'8 and not even 5'10 like her and I weigh almost 200 lbs and in a size 16. My goal is a size 14 which my doctor supports. I am still overweight and on the obese side but I look fabulous. I would kill to be a US size 12. More power to her.

[Marimaru 7]

I wouldn't wear a bikini with that body. Mostly I just which I was happier with my body did look like that, since it wont look that way on the way back down. :Dancing_wub:

[Wheetsin 714]

I can say that at 175 (she and I are about the same height) I was not that porky. So I guess it goes to show how much you need to factor in overall frame, how weight is carried etc.

That being said, if I looked like that at 175 on the way back down, I'd.... no, I can't even say I'd be happy then, because her height & that weight should put her in the "normal" BMI, and she looks more than a little overweight to me.

MariMaru, I see your point. I'm mad because I know that at 175 this time ont he way down, I'm going to look much worse than 175 on the way up. >:ohmy:

[Jachut 487]

She's beautiful, very beautiful.

But she's not at a healthy weight for her height, she's about 84kg at 12 stone 8 which is at about a stone overweight. And I actually suspsect they're fibbing about her weight because she looks close to obese to me. I was about that height and weight in my teens and it was miserable, I was by far the biggest girl and I was bigger than most boys. But at 13 stone, I was nowhere near as um, rubenesque as she is, I had much less fat on my stomach, it was much flatter than that and her thighs are very meaty. I looked a lot more athletic. Different body types, sure, but I suspect that's not her real weight, I think she's probably closer to 14 or 15 stone to be honest.

I've never thought that being fat means you cant be beautiful. Her body is womanly and lovely. But how she looks in a photo and how that bikini would look in real life is two different things too - I would think she'd be falling out of it if she actually tried to wear it!

But my personal opinion is that she's fat, not curvy. And I would worry that to be that size at 17 means she's going to become obese as an adult. She's healthy now becuase she's got youth on her side, she probably wont stay that way. She definitely fits the norm these days though and I agree with Chickie that that's why so many people think a normal BMI looks too skinny.

Lets not kid ourselves though, its different when you've been morbidly obese and you get down to that weight, but as a teen you dont reach a high weight like that without overeating and eating the wrong foods and being underactive, no matter what she says about her habits.

Good on her for getting out there, showing that ALL women can be beautiful. But I think for the media to promote her has healthy is all wrong, its as damaging as teaching young girls that only thin is beautiful. That girl is well and truly overweight!

Edited April 7, 2008 by Jachut