This thread is going to be sooo inappropriate!

[Froggi 4]

ewww.... LOL

[LilMissDiva Irene 3,282]

What.The.Hell?? "now my poop smells like a cooked hamburger"......I can see the office banter now:

Guy 1 - "Hey, I smell burgers. Is it time for the company picnic already?"

Guy 2 - "Nope. Paul just took a shit".

LMFAO!! :thumbup:

[WASaBubbleButt 41]

Okay, I know I should leave the DSers and their "odor" alone but I just read this. Now, keep in mind a few months ago one of them actually told me that DS makes you turn bad food into good food. Riiiiiiight, if that is the case, why do they need Vitamins such as this daily list:

Vitamin Regimen: List yours, please!

This is mine. I am zinc and Iron decificient (was before surgery).

Batch 1

1 x poly iron

1 x C

Batch 2

1 x probiotic

1 x Multivitamin

1 x A

2 x Calcium

Batch 3

2 x zinc

2 x calcium

Batch 4

1 x D

2 x calcium

1 x magnesium

Batch 5

1 x multivitamin

1 x A

2 x calcium

1 x magnesium

Batch 6

6 x tender iron

1 x poly iron

2 x C

Daily Totals

A - 50,000 i.u.

D - 50,000 i.u. (deficient before surgery)

Calcium - 2520 mg

Magnesium Oxide - 1000 mg (help with Constipation from iron)

Zinc - 100 mg (help with acne)

Iron - 450 mg (deficient before surgery)

C - 1500 mg

plus Multivitamins.< /p>

Or, this one:

My daily vitamins, month 12-18 (REVISED on 10/12/08)

This is what I take everyday...

*2 hours before breakfast~

150mg polycarbonate Iron (Vitalady)

150 mg (6 pills) Vitalady Tender Iron (Carbonyl Iron) (Vitalady)

1500 Mg (3 chewables) Vitamin C (Costco)

2mg copper

*Breakfast~

1 costco Multivitamin

2 pills- (630 mg) Citracal calcium citrate (Costco)

1 super B-complex (Costco)

400 I.U. Dry E (Vitalady)

1 hair, skin, and nails Vitamin (Walmart)

2 Digestive Advantage Lactose Intolerance w/ probiotics

*2 hours later~ 2 pills- (630 mg) Citracal Calcium Citrate (Costco)

*Lunch~

1- Costco Multivitamin

2 pills- (630 mg) Citracal Calcium Citrate

2-100mg zinc {Hair} (Walmart)

1 hair, skin, and nails vitamin (Walmart)

*2 hours later~ 2 pills- (630 mg) Citracal Calcium Citrate

*Dinner~

2 pills- (630 mg) Citracal Calcium Citrate

200mcg Selenium (CVS) {Hair}

400 I.U. Dry E

1 hair, skin, and nails vitamin (Walmart)

1 thiamine (B-1) capsule, 100 mg (Vitalady.com)

1 dry vitamin K

*Bedtime~

1 Costco multivitamin

3 Costco Calcium Citrate + Mag 750 mg

25,000 I.U. Dry A (vitalady.com)

50,000 I.U. Dry D (vitalady.com)

sub-lingual b-12 2500 mcg (Walmart)

I struggle to remember my multivitamin daily. No way would I be compliant with this.

[BethFromVA 5]

Omg, that is INSANE!! I don't think people with HIV take cocktails as huge as that!

So... if their bodies turn bad food into good, then -- as you said -- why do they need all THAT? And WHY not just eat GOOD food??

Those people sound like they got lobotomies along with their WLS... :tongue_smilie:

[losingjusme 12]

but Beth, that's the whole point of getting the DS - you dont HAVE to eat well ... heaven forbid they eat good healthy food... :tongue_smilie:

[BethFromVA 5]

but Beth, that's the whole point of getting the DS - you dont HAVE to eat well ... heaven forbid they eat good healthy food... :tongue_smilie:

Silly me! Whatever was I thinking??

[travelinsnorkel 0]

Keeping with the vain of this thread, I have had my own poop issues this past week. I apparently hadn't been eating enough veggies with all of the holidays. I also found myself eating a lot of cheese to get my Protein. SO, I spent half an hour on the toilet only to get a few rabbit pellets out. Then, nearly died on the toilet a few hours later and passed everything. So, I've been living on veggies and Beans the past two days! Bet you are glad I shared!

[MacMadame 81]

but Beth, that's the whole point of getting the DS - you dont HAVE to eat well ... heaven forbid they eat good healthy food...

Except you do... You don't have to limit fat -- which we've all been conditioned to think of as evil, but isn't necessarily -- but you have to limit white carbs and get in lots of Protein. You can't be sucking down donuts all day, for example. You need to eat primarily meat and veggies just like most of us do.

I know a few DSers who are not insane. They freely admit that, if they eat white carbs, their farts can clear the room. They admit that the supplementing regime is heavy. They love their surgery, just as we all love our surgeries, but they understand why other people would want other surgeries.

It's only a subset of DSers on OH who are whack jobs and will not admit ANYTHING negative about the DS. They insist there are no poop or fart issues, that the supplementing is "easy", that their surgery is "the best" because it has the highest average EWL (because that's the only measure that matters, apparently). They also go on about how the DS "cures" diabetes but the other surgeries only put it into "remission" and claim it has a 98% cure rate when studies show it's more like 90% and the cure vs. remission

I feel bad for the people they suck into their little world who get a DS and then have issues with the lifestyle or with malnutrition, but I figure, for the most part, people are adults and can see through their BS.

I think they actually turn off more people than they convert... I know I never seriously considered the DS until I met some reasonable people who had it. Even then, the only thing I like about it over my surgery is that you can eat and drink at the same time and, the way my surgeon does the DS, you can't because the DSers get the same size sleeve as the VSGers. So there goes that advantage!

[WASaBubbleButt 41]

Omg, that is INSANE!! I don't think people with HIV take cocktails as huge as that!

So... if their bodies turn bad food into good, then -- as you said -- why do they need all THAT? And WHY not just eat GOOD food??

Those people sound like they got lobotomies along with their WLS...

It's certainly nothing I would be compliant with. They are malabsorbing so they have to take this stuff. I would never cut it as a bypass patient either, I just don't remember to take the silly pills.< /p>

Freaky.

[WASaBubbleButt 41]

Except you do... You don't have to limit fat -- which we've all been conditioned to think of as evil, but isn't necessarily -- but you have to limit white carbs and get in lots of Protein. You can't be sucking down donuts all day, for example. You need to eat primarily meat and veggies just like most of us do.

I know a few DSers who are not insane. They freely admit that, if they eat white carbs, their farts can clear the room. They admit that the supplementing regime is heavy. They love their surgery, just as we all love our surgeries, but they understand why other people would want other surgeries.

It's only a subset of DSers on OH who are whack jobs and will not admit ANYTHING negative about the DS. They insist there are no poop or fart issues, that the supplementing is "easy", that their surgery is "the best" because it has the highest average EWL (because that's the only measure that matters, apparently). They also go on about how the DS "cures" diabetes but the other surgeries only put it into "remission" and claim it has a 98% cure rate when studies show it's more like 90% and the cure vs. remission

I feel bad for the people they suck into their little world who get a DS and then have issues with the lifestyle or with malnutrition, but I figure, for the most part, people are adults and can see through their BS.

I think they actually turn off more people than they convert... I know I never seriously considered the DS until I met some reasonable people who had it. Even then, the only thing I like about it over my surgery is that you can eat and drink at the same time and, the way my surgeon does the DS, you can't because the DSers get the same size sleeve as the VSGers. So there goes that advantage!

I thought the DS sleeve was larger than the VSG? No? I was never sure about that one, I always meant to ask but it's hard finding a rational DS person on OH.

[BethFromVA 5]

It's certainly nothing I would be compliant with. They are malabsorbing so they have to take this stuff. I would never cut it as a bypass patient either, I just don't remember to take the silly pills.

Freaky.

That's my thing. The ONLY thing I have ever been able to take consistently was my birth control, and even then, if I ran out, I would forget to go to the pharmacy.

I have a plethora of Vitamins that probably date back to 1998 that have been forgotten and left by the wayside because I am good for a while and then forget. I could NEVER do those cocktails they have to do!

[MacMadame 81]

I thought the DS sleeve was larger than the VSG? No? I was never sure about that one, I always meant to ask but it's hard finding a rational DS person on OH.

It started out that way, but my surgeon (and others) have found that doing it with VSG-sized sleeve with a longer common channel gives just as good weight loss but minimizes the problems with diarrhea and malnutrition.

I'm not sure if he does every DS this new way, btw, or if he lets the patient decide which they want. Plus he still puts his patients on quite the supplement regime and says about 10% have malnutrition issues.

I currently take way more supplements than you guys because I screwed up in the early days, causing some malnutrition issues, and also I base my supplements on my labs and I work each number so it's in the middle or high end of the normal range. But, even so, I frequently forget and have to double up the next day to make up for it.

If I *had* to take all these Vitamins to stave off malnutrition, I'd be in big trouble. It's hard enough getting in the 100 g of Protein I need to get my Protein levels back up.

[WASaBubbleButt 41]

That's my thing. The ONLY thing I have ever been able to take consistently was my birth control, and even then, if I ran out, I would forget to go to the pharmacy.

I have a plethora of Vitamins that probably date back to 1998 that have been forgotten and left by the wayside because I am good for a while and then forget. I could NEVER do those cocktails they have to do!

HAHA! I have a HUGE cupboard full of Vitamins, Protein supplements, and other various supplements. At the time I bought them I swore I would use them. Yeah, right.

I need to clean out the expired stuff someday.

[MacMadame 81]

Hey, if you have any unexpired Vitamin D or Omega fatty acids, send them to me!

[WASaBubbleButt 41]

If I *had* to take all these Vitamins to stave off malnutrition, I'd be in big trouble. It's hard enough getting in the 100 g of Protein I need to get my Protein levels back up.

There is NO way I could get 100gms of protein in daily unless I used supplements.

whey Gourmet Choco-Peanut butter... the stuff is fantastic. Want any samples? If so, email me your mailing address. I'm going to the PO tomorrow.

I mix it with Water and it is thick, rich, and creamy. Good stuff, 23gms protein, 120 cal, 3gms carbs. Fantastic stuff.