TommyO 5 Posted May 23, 2008 The lady was placed on a ventilator, it would appear that being hooked up to a man made machine that provides oxygen to the lungs might have had something to do with it. As well oxygenated blood can be moving to the brain without a detectable pulse. I would say this is definitly an unusual occurance but explainable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BJean 16 Posted May 23, 2008 If we're looking for miracles, we can find any number of unexplainable events that we can choose to believe are miracles. History is full of them. If you are a believer in miracles, you don't find it hard to accept something that can't be explained by conventional wisdom or science, as being a miracle. If on the other hand you aren't a believer in miracles, you don't find it difficult to believe that unexplained events are just that, unexplained. Events that defy the norm aren't events that can't happen given the right circumstances. So it is understood by non-believers that they are not miracles, just random events that aren't expected. IMHO, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacMadame 81 Posted May 23, 2008 I would define a miracle as something that defies the laws of the universe. Say turning Water into wine by passing your hand over it. Or resuscitating the dead. I would call most medical "miracles" cool and happy occurrences, not miracles. Ironically, the season-ending episode of How I met Your Mother was called "Miracles" and dealt with this topic... Marshal as calling everything remotely wonderful as a miracle and Robin was pooh-poohing them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fanny Adams 7 Posted May 24, 2008 *giggles* Ok, now before anyone gets upset, this is meant as a JOKE, ok? I saw this today and immediately thought of this thread and the opposing sides. Hope everyone has a sense of humour :rolleyes2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brandyII 9 Posted May 24, 2008 That was funny Fanny, brandyII. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonemouse 1 Posted May 25, 2008 I REALLY want that on a t-shirt, but I don't think it would go over well here in Kentucky, lol! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BJean 16 Posted May 25, 2008 laurend I'm afraid that tee shirt would get you shot just about anywhere in the U.S. Especially with the political climate of the past 7.5 years hanging over our heads. But Fanny I see the humor and think it's a perfect post for this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonemouse 1 Posted May 25, 2008 laurend I'm afraid that tee shirt would get you shot just about anywhere in the U.S. Especially with the political climate of the past 7.5 years hanging over our heads. But Fanny I see the humor and think it's a perfect post for this thread. Too true. :biggrin: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErikMesa 0 Posted May 25, 2008 That was funny! I saw a bumper sticker on a car the other day that made me laugh... "If Bush is a good CHRISTIAN President Next time elect an ATHEIST!" So true... ErikMesa (Not an Atheist) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plain 12 Posted May 28, 2008 I'd just laugh if I saw somebody wearing this shirt.....and secretly feel superior to them :sad: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BJean 16 Posted May 28, 2008 Great attitude, plain! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheetsin 714 Posted May 28, 2008 Funny I should rediscover this thread now, because I saw something the other day that reminded me of it. On the rare occasion that I watch TV, I like to watch gratuitous TV. I'm watching it to get away from the things that make me think. So the other day I'm Trading Spouses... Anyway, there was what I would consider a fairly fanatic christian woman on the show. She was a self-proclaimed GOD WARRIOR, whatever that means. She was actually REALLY obese, super morbidly and then some, and wanting to have gastric bypass surgery. Beside the point, but I do remember that detail. The family she stayed with was more new age - big into astrology, alternative medicine, but in their own right just as spiritual as she was. She refused to do anything with them, but wanted them to go to church with her. (long story omitted) I just found the video of her when she returned home, completely flipping out. Watch this and tell me there's not fear there: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCh2FXzD6R4]YouTube - Trading Spouses - Crazy Lady - "I'm a God warrior"[/ame] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gone4Now 4 Posted May 28, 2008 Ack...I hate that my company blocks stuff. I guess they hate it that I try to use their bandwidth for this stuff. Bringing this whole thread back to the fear factor, I can only speak for myself. I don't fear athiests, or any other belief/non-belief. Then again, I'm not a God Warrior, or a real "fanatic" about my faith. I'm not really fanatic about anything, really, and sometime envy people who are. But, that may change once I go home and see the video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fanny Adams 7 Posted May 28, 2008 I couldn't watch it all but all I could think was those poor poor kids. Somebody needs to get that woman some psychiatric help, because that is not the behaviour of a mentally healthy person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*susan* 1,709 Posted May 28, 2008 Personally, that woman scared the bejeebers out of me! She looked evil and darksided. Wow, just, wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites