Numbheart 108 Posted April 7, 2021 What are the challenges that you have encountered before and after surgery? How were you able to overcome these challenges? 1 1 Brandee.Davis and GradyCat reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Creekimp13 5,840 Posted April 7, 2021 1. Figuring out what to do with the pissed off/sad feelings when food wasn't an option to self soothe with. 2. Grieving no longer liking foods I've used as a comfort crutch for a lifetime. 3. Being suprised that this is a lifelong challenge, a lifelong calorie count, a lifelong need to be mindful, a lifelong fight. You don't "overcome" this. You learn more strategies to deal with disordered eating....every day....for the rest of your life. You learn more about how you ended up fat. You learn more about yourself. Most newbies think of weighloss surgery in terms of.... First hurdle....getting surgery Second hurdle..surviving post surgical diet Third hurdle..doing extreme things to get down to goal weight as soon as possible. (terrible idea) and at Goal....the fantasy ends. The typical Newbie thinks goal weight is the yellow brick road happy ending with a rainbow over it. Goal Weight is arriving at the destination you will never depart from. It is THE END, the reward, Bliss, Victory, blah blah blah... The problem with arriving at goal....is that you wake up the next day....and you're still you. LOL. Look past goal. Goal isn't the end. You don't get fixed just because you reach goal. Your brain and eating aren't less disordered. You have to work through all sorts of weird behavior and fix the parts of you that need attention...the parts that drove you to morbid obesity. That's the real challenge....living permanently with new eating habits, new physicality, and finding new outlets for toxic feelings that don't end up being self sabotaging. The work is never done. I won't say it doesn't eventually get easier. But it's never done. I will be working on this big life change....for the rest of my life. One of the bigger challenges many people face is thinking the surgery magically fixes you (it doesn't), thinking that the surgery does the work (it doesn't, but you do), and thinking that you're cured somehow at goal. You are just getting started. 9 5 ClarkKent, Summermoose, devotion and 11 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midwest Grateful 48 Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Creekimp13 said: 1. Figuring out what to do with the pissed off/sad feelings when food wasn't an option to self soothe with. 2. Grieving no longer liking foods I've used as a comfort crutch for a lifetime. 3. Being suprised that this is a lifelong challenge, a lifelong calorie count, a lifelong need to be mindful, a lifelong fight. You don't "overcome" this. You learn more strategies to deal with disordered eating....every day....for the rest of your life. You learn more about how you ended up fat. You learn more about yourself. ... One of the bigger challenges many people face is thinking the surgery magically fixes you (it doesn't), thinking that the surgery does the work (it doesn't, but you do), and thinking that you're cured somehow at goal. You are just getting started. I appreciate this question/post. Thank you for this very real response, Creekimp13. We need more like this... straight forward and no sugar coating, so that others can make an honest, informed decision. Much appreciated!! Be well! 2 Brandee.Davis and Amidoingit reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaLuna 710 Posted April 8, 2021 One of my biggest challenges post op was developing a wheat allergy. They don't tell you that it can happen to you after surgery, but it CAN! Learning how to eat around it is insanely difficult! Eating out was already tough, but now it's next to impossible... you have to constantly ask "Is there wheat in this? And if you say no, is there flour in it, because if there is, then yes, there's wheat. I'm allergic to wheat." It gets annoying. I had no idea just how many things have wheat in them! Learning to eat different was already difficult and then I had to change things to take wheat completely out of my diet but due to wheat being in more than 90% of flours it's in pretty much everything! You have to look for either 'wheat free' or 'gluten free' most of the time to know right off the bat that there isn't any wheat in it. 2 Sunnyway and Summermoose reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Numbheart 108 Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 12:21 PM, NovaLuna said: One of my biggest challenges post op was developing a wheat allergy. They don't tell you that it can happen to you after surgery, but it CAN! Learning how to eat around it is insanely difficult! Eating out was already tough, but now it's next to impossible... you have to constantly ask "Is there wheat in this? And if you say no, is there flour in it, because if there is, then yes, there's wheat. I'm allergic to wheat." It gets annoying. I had no idea just how many things have wheat in them! Learning to eat different was already difficult and then I had to change things to take wheat completely out of my diet but due to wheat being in more than 90% of flours it's in pretty much everything! You have to look for either 'wheat free' or 'gluten free' most of the time to know right off the bat that there isn't any wheat in it. I didn't know that it could happen, have you ask your doctor about that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bufbills 316 Posted April 12, 2021 21 hours ago, Lavender032 said: liquid diet, before, and after surgery. Sucked! 1 mandya84 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaLuna 710 Posted April 13, 2021 14 hours ago, Numbheart said: I didn't know that it could happen, have you ask your doctor about that? When I told them I 'dumped' after eating a low carb wheat bread they tested me for the allergy because you're not supposed to dump with my surgery. However, they just told me to avoid wheat and never told me that it was an actual allergy until I saw my gastroenterologist and THEY told me that I'd developed a wheat allergy due to my surgery. I wish the bariatric surgeon had MENTIONED it was an allergy and not just 'avoid wheat'. Like, really? But, apparently it happens. My gastroenterologist said I'm just lucky it wasn't Celiac Disease because WLS can cause that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Numbheart 108 Posted April 19, 2021 Anyone here who has good experience with a counselor prior to the procedure? I heard it can help set you up for long-term success following surgery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShoppGirl 5,004 Posted April 20, 2021 Aside from the mental/emotional work that I am still doing my biggest challenge has been eating slowly/ chewing more. It’s harder than it sounds to train your mind to do it. 1 Nannee2-2 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackcatsandbaddecisions 852 Posted April 26, 2021 Getting used to different portion sizes. I still have a mental “seriously?!?” When I eat dinner and I’m done after like 3 bites. Physically I’m satisfied, mentally I’m not, if that makes sense. Mourning the loss of food as a treat or a reward. This is how I got into this mess in the first place, but doesn’t mean that I don’t still kinda wish I could deal with a bad day by ordering a huge pizza and buying an assortment of candy. Now I just have to deal with my feelings like a well adjusted adult or something? Not cool. (Joking....kinda) 5 1 lizonaplane, ClarkKent, Creekimp13 and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lizonaplane 1,613 Posted May 4, 2021 I'm pre-surgery still, but I will say the hardest thing I've done so far is go on vacation and not eat everything in site. Usually I gain 5-10 lbs on vacation, but this time, I gained only 0.4 lbs. I did it by tracking everything I ate and sharing meals with my mom (she actually did gain weight, which is unusual for her, but she's a lot thinner than me). It's hard especially because my mom is so focused on which "nice" restaurants we go to and what we're going to eat; if it was just me and my dad we'd eat from a chain salad place every meal. 1 Sunnyway reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarax2grlz 3 Posted October 23, 2021 I was excited/nervous about the bypass on 10/5/21. Initially I was ok. Surgery was good, sent home on track. Walking and working the discharge orders successfully. 10/10/21 back in the hospital with a bowel blockage after taking the suggested Metamucil. It gels and potentially can cause blockages. Another surgery, NG tube, and 6 days in the icu I was terrified. I am a mom, I was doing this to be better for myself and my family but I suddenly feared the choice I made could possibly have taken me from them. After coming home I have had challenges with intake, collapsed lung, incision infection, and the loss of control in bm’s . I researched this for 10 years and ignored my fear because I would read so very many success stories and think I was being over dramatic or paranoid. Although I will say my last 3 days have been better, infection seems to be doing better, lung better, fever gone and increased intake on fluids. This is definitely a life decision that can not just effect you but your family, and your mental state. Be sure, talk with your loved ones and your doctor. The most emotional moments have been during my struggles in the hospital, pain, missing my family, fear the wonderful, caring nurses that really supported me so that I could get back home to them. 1 1 lizonaplane and Sunnyway reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devotion 41 Posted October 23, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 6:49 PM, Creekimp13 said: 1. Figuring out what to do with the pissed off/sad feelings when food wasn't an option to self soothe with. 2. Grieving no longer liking foods I've used as a comfort crutch for a lifetime. 3. Being suprised that this is a lifelong challenge, a lifelong calorie count, a lifelong need to be mindful, a lifelong fight. You don't "overcome" this. You learn more strategies to deal with disordered eating....every day....for the rest of your life. You learn more about how you ended up fat. You learn more about yourself. Most newbies think of weighloss surgery in terms of.... First hurdle....getting surgery Second hurdle..surviving post surgical diet Third hurdle..doing extreme things to get down to goal weight as soon as possible. (terrible idea) and at Goal....the fantasy ends. The typical Newbie thinks goal weight is the yellow brick road happy ending with a rainbow over it. Goal Weight is arriving at the destination you will never depart from. It is THE END, the reward, Bliss, Victory, blah blah blah... The problem with arriving at goal....is that you wake up the next day....and you're still you. LOL. Look past goal. Goal isn't the end. You don't get fixed just because you reach goal. Your brain and eating aren't less disordered. You have to work through all sorts of weird behavior and fix the parts of you that need attention...the parts that drove you to morbid obesity. That's the real challenge....living permanently with new eating habits, new physicality, and finding new outlets for toxic feelings that don't end up being self sabotaging. The work is never done. I won't say it doesn't eventually get easier. But it's never done. I will be working on this big life change....for the rest of my life. One of the bigger challenges many people face is thinking the surgery magically fixes you (it doesn't), thinking that the surgery does the work (it doesn't, but you do), and thinking that you're cured somehow at goal. You are just getting started. This thoughtful and honest post was so helpful to me! I just had surgery on 10/11/21 and am writing down these points and keeping them on my fridge. Thank you for posting this 😀 1 Brandee.Davis reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lizonaplane 1,613 Posted October 24, 2021 My biggest challenge is that I'm hungry ALL THE DARN TIME... within half an hour after eating my stomach is growling (different from the noises it makes during/immediately after eating). I can't eat much at one time, and even when I stuff myself I'm hungry in a short period of time. The surgeon was surprised and the nutritionist just said to eat more Protein and Fiber. It isn't helping. The only thing that helps at all is warm drinks like tea with milk or sugar free hot cocoa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShoppGirl 5,004 Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, lizonaplane said: My biggest challenge is that I'm hungry ALL THE DARN TIME... within half an hour after eating my stomach is growling (different from the noises it makes during/immediately after eating). I can't eat much at one time, and even when I stuff myself I'm hungry in a short period of time. The surgeon was surprised and the nutritionist just said to eat more Protein and Fiber. It isn't helping. The only thing that helps at all is warm drinks like tea with milk or sugar free hot cocoa. I can’t believe you are still dealing with this. At least you found that warm beverages help. When you said tea you made me think of oolong tea (I think that was the name) it’s a tea that I tried for weight loss. Supposed to be an appetite suppressant. Maybe that would help?? I did lose weight on it. I just gained it back like everything else pre surgery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites