No help for the wicked

[vinesqueen 2]

No help for us. We are fat, we are gluttons, we are weak and undeserving of help, sympathy, or adequate medical care. Like Orson Wells said, “Gluttony is not a secret vice.”

Do I believe that? Some days I do in fact believe it, when I’m down, and lately more because of how ill I have been. Mostly it is a load of hog wash. Fat does not equal ugly.

There has long been a weird relationship with food, the body and the Christian church. And of course, we all know the impact that both Protestant and Catholic sects have had on Western Civilization…

Some of the Christian based weight-loss schemes are screaming “fat people don’t go to heaven,” and “use our program based on Leviticus and you will loose weight and be closer to God!” Sorry, I’ve read Leviticus, and I am NOT eating bugs…. (I call them schemes because I think we all here have come to the understanding that “diets” are just schemes…) If you had better self-control, more self-esteem, more will-power, were a better person, loved God more…. You would lose weight and be a better person.

There is no understanding for the overweight from most doctors. Before my husband had his band installed, the cardiologist said “Have you just tried cutting out sweets?” Now, on the face of it, this is good advice, advice we could all use. However, this showed a complete lack of understanding on the part of the doctor. You see, before my husband had his band installed, he weighted 596 pounds with a BMI in the high 80’s. Cutting out sweets would have certainly helped, it wouldn’t have stopped my husband from eating two or three fast-food meals at one sitting, or any of the other overeating behavior some of us know intimately, and other behaviors we are only starting to understand in ourselves and others.

I am currently having difficulty with my asthma: hospitalizations, steroids, greatly reduced lung function, other things as well. What am I told? Well, just lose some weight, we aren’t going to help with this, we are just going to pass judgment on you. Sudden and unexplained weight gain? Well, just don’t eat as much… (never mind that I gained 10 pounds overnight with severe edema…). I have to suspect that part of Delarla’s current adventure with gauze might have been caught earlier if she was thin.

I was told by my doctor that I just need to take up running. Yes that’s right, take up running. Can you imagine a woman with a BMI in the high 40’s running? (Please see the thread about giving one’s self black eyes…)

Being fat or overweight or big boned, or under tall, or metabolically efficient or famine resistant doesn’t make us failures, bad people or jerks. We might be over sexed (skin is the largest sex organ…), but we are not failures, or bad people or jerks. If we are failures or bad people or jerks, it is independent of our weight or size.

[donali 57]

Being fat or overweight or big boned, or under tall, or metabolically efficient or famine resistant doesn’t make us failures, bad people or jerks. We might be over sexed (skin is the largest sex organ…), but we are not failures, or bad people or jerks. If we are failures or bad people or jerks, it is independent of our weight or size.

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[Alexandra 55]

Brilliant post. All around.

[Iluvharleys 15]

Great post!

[blossom 2]

Amen, sister!!!

[nightingale2u 42]

Right on the button there Vines!

[Belle joufflue une 1]

I remember going to my Doc at 260lbs, and telling him I would like surgery to cope with my drastic weight gain-a few years back. He told me "Why don't we put you on a diet low in calories (yea right..never thought of that before), and increase your exercise." Uh, huh. Excercise. At my weight...exercise is cleaning my kitchen floor, walking from the parking lot to the university, and doing laundry!

There is a new day on the horizon.

This is for all of us-because we are still alive!

Joan

[Zoe 6]

Hey, Vines, you kick ass! How is your husband doing with his band?

[vinesqueen 2]

He’s been at a plateau of 420 for the last couple of months. Part of it is psychological; he hasn’t been in the 300 range for 20 years. Fear, anger, body armor. All issues that are keeping him from where he could be. Probably issues that are keeping most of us from where we could be too. He’s been eating way too much sugar, but he knows it.

On the plus side, two weeks ago he and our son started working with a personal trainer. I figure that after a while working with the trainer will kick start his weight loss. He has also come to an understanding that if he doesn’t let go of some of his cherished anger at his father, he will never lose the weight he needs to lose. (Body armor…)

[whippledaddy 5]

“Have you just tried cutting out sweets?” Quote from Vinesqueen.

I love it. Would the same doctor tell an addict "Have you ever thought about cutting back on heroin?"

[vinesqueen 2]

bumping along my journey

[DeLarla 22]

I'm glad you bumped this. I never saw it the first time around. With obesity running rampant, we will soon overtake the world and eat all the normies that don't understand us. Please pass the salt.

[hrv 0]

Amen sister!!!!

[vinesqueen 2]

I'm glad you bumped this. I never saw it the first time around. With obesity running rampant, we will soon overtake the world and eat all the normies that don't understand us. Please pass the salt.

Just so you know, poeple are white meat. NO Merlot!

[Marimaru 7]

I never saw this the first time either. Dunno where I was.

"Just take up running" We should strap 100lbs (at least) of saddlebags on that person and say "now, you just go run down the street there buddy".

I actually ran today. Not very far, just the last part of my daily walk. I still weight too much for my ankles to appreciate it, and I definately need a new bra if I want to start doing THAT on a daily basis (black eyes comment definately hits the mark!). I can't imagine if someone told me to "just take up running". Not to mention that fact that sedentary people are really supposed to work themselves into a workout program, not just dive in full force. bleah. ignorance irritates the heck out of me. I'm with Lisa, pass the salt!