Rice, Pasta, Bread, etc

[HealthyLifeStyle 351]

12 hours ago, skyewolfe said:

Ok so what it is, is the white breads and grains expand in our stomach. Whole grains don’t expand as much. I personally can’t tolerate any of them and I am approaching my 1 year

Good to know that you are almost 1 yr. I thought I could eat them by then without a problem. Maybe I can?

[HealthyLifeStyle 351]

6 hours ago, summerset said:

I highly recommend watching some of Dr. Weiner's videos for myth busting around WLS. I've read about "stretching the pouch" too much on this thread already.

Lots of info in this video. TY for posting this. I can't wait for 4 more days. I see my docs for my 6 month follow up. I have LOTS of ?'s for them.

[summerset 5,265]

What people can or can't eat depends on the individual.

Some people can eat food X.

Some people can't eat food X.

Other people fear to even try food X because they heard some stories about how WLS patients "aren't allowed to have it" or that "it doesn't sit well in the pouch" or something like that (some of these people even claim that they can't eat food X even though they never tried to eat it which doesn't make any sense to me - you can't know before you have tried).

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16 minutes ago, HealthyLifeStyle said:

My hubby bought me some Lentil spaghetti to try. I am kinda leery about it.

You might be careful with the spaghetti first try - a shape like penne or fusilli is easier to chew well IMO.

[HealthyLifeStyle 351]

6 hours ago, summerset said:

I didn't lose any weight before my surgery. I was told not to. I have not done any exercise program yet. The guy called in, said he has been eating more, so that is why he gained weight.

[summerset 5,265]

Does it really matter? The video is about pouch stretching myth.

[HealthyLifeStyle 351]

5 minutes ago, summerset said:

What people can or can't eat depends on the individual.

Some people can eat food X.

Some people can't eat food X.

Other people fear to even try food X because they heard some stories about how WLS patients "aren't allowed to have it" or that "it doesn't sit well in the pouch" or something like that (some of these people even claim that they can't eat food X even though they never tried to eat it which doesn't make any sense to me - you can't know before you have tried).

I am only "fearful" because that is what my doc told me.

[HealthyLifeStyle 351]

1 minute ago, summerset said:

Does it really matter? The video is about pouch stretching myth.

Yes, TY for posting it. It does have some very important info.

[HealthyLifeStyle 351]

3 minutes ago, summerset said:

You might be careful with the spaghetti first try - a shape like penne or fusilli is easier to chew well IMO.

What is IMO?

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Just now, HealthyLifeStyle said:

I am only "fearful" because that is what my doc told me.

"Being fearful" is not the point here.

The point is that many patients claim that "they can't have food X" while the truth is "I never tried food X because I'm too afraid to try", therefore spreading misinformation.

[WishMeSmaller 1,271]

I am almost eight months PO. I have tried pretty much everything I ate pre-WLS. I do not dump, but some things sit better than others, and something that sits well today, might not sit well tomorrow. More than a a small portion of bread or Pasta tends to feel like a lump in my tummy. I do not like to forbid myself certain foods, but I do pick my battles. For instance, last Friday I went out to dinner. Instead of eating the bread put on the table, I had wine (I have a glass of wine or two once every other week or so). Since we can’t drink while we eat, I chose to drink first, rather than eat the warm bread. My fish entree came with three ravioli. I ate one and took the others home with 2/3 of my fish. I am not a big rice person, so I have only had a few bites since surgery, with no issue.

I am trying to slow my weight loss down now, as I am happy with the way my body looks. I was happily stalled for about two weeks and thought I hit maintenance, but I have dropped 4 pounds this week. I exercise a lot, so I am not super restrictive with what I eat. My goal is to lose a bit more fat, not weight. Like Summerset, I do not chose to be insanely limiting with carbs, but most of my carbs come from fruit, rather than grains. I think it just depends on your current weight loss/maintenance goals, and trial and error.

Good luck!

ps. IMO = in my opinion

Edited February 20, 2021 by WishMeSmaller

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1 hour ago, HealthyLifeStyle said:

Good to know that you are almost 1 yr. I thought I could eat them by then without a problem. Maybe I can?

Possibly. I know some people can within a few months. It really varies between person. I had a super difficult recovery and can’t tolerate a lot of foods

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1 hour ago, skyewolfe said:

Possibly. I know some people can within a few months. It really varies between person. I had a super difficult recovery and can’t tolerate a lot of foods

Sorry to hear that. I had a really bad recovery in the 1st month. I literally couldn't eat or drink anything without being sick. I ended up in the hospital because of dehydration. Had to have nausea Patches behind my ears. I never thought it would end. Could be why I can't/won't try a lot of things. Even after I could start to eat a little more, I basically stick to the same things.

[HealthyLifeStyle 351]

2 hours ago, WishMeSmaller said:

I am almost eight months PO. I have tried pretty much everything I ate pre-WLS. I do not dump, but some things sit better than others, and something that sits well today, might not sit well tomorrow. More than a a small portion of bread or Pasta tends to feel like a lump in my tummy. I do not like to forbid myself certain foods, but I do pick my battles. For instance, last Friday I went out to dinner. Instead of eating the bread put on the table, I had wine (I have a glass of wine or two once every other week or so). Since we can’t drink while we eat, I chose to drink first, rather than eat the warm bread. My fish entree came with three ravioli. I ate one and took the others home with 2/3 of my fish. I am not a big rice person, so I have only had a few bites since surgery, with no issue.

I am trying to slow my weight loss down now, as I am happy with the way my body looks. I was happily stalled for about two weeks and thought I hit maintenance, but I have dropped 4 pounds this week. I exercise a lot, so I am not super restrictive with what I eat. My goal is to lose a bit more fat, not weight. Like Summerset, I do not chose to be insanely limiting with carbs, but most of my carbs come from fruit, rather than grains. I think it just depends on your current weight loss/maintenance goals, and trial and error.

Good luck!

ps. IMO = in my opinion

Right now the only carbs I get is from apples mostly. I don't drink alcohol so I don't have to worry about that. Even though I don't drink, we were told that we couldn't after surgery. Everyone's plans are so different. What they were told from their docs is very different.

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2 hours ago, HealthyLifeStyle said:

Everyone's plans are so different. What they were told from their docs is very different.

There is no gold standard (even though some might claim that they've found the holy grail).

IMO that's one of the reasons patients are so afraid of "doing something wrong". In the end there are patients adopting elements from several plans, creating the most restrictive plan possible because they only look at what other treatment teams label as "forbidden" and not what they label as "ok".

One team says "NO!!!! NEVER AGAIN!!!" when it comes to coffee - there goes the coffee, even if your own team says it's ok in moderation.

Others say "NO!!!! NEVER AGAIN!!!" to carbonated drinks - there goes the carbonated Water, even though your own treatment team doesn't mind it. Just for - you know - safety reasons.

A team says "NO!!!! NEVER AGAIN!!!" when it comes to bread - you plan to never touch a slice of bread again, even though your own dietician says you can start eating whole grain breads 6 weeks after surgery, just to be... safe because there is this talk about lack of weight loss because "carbs".

And that list goes on and on and ON endlessly. In the end you've become the prisoner of your new "bariatric lifestyle".