removal-mini bypass

[kimberlyC 0]

Hi everyone!

I havent been on here in awhile. I am 2 yrs. into banding and not having great results. I am always choking and food comes up alot. I was looking online at people who have had the band removed and the mini bypass done. I am not too familiar with the mini bypass, does anyone know of this or has had surgery done after the band has come off?

[Brittwoman 1]

After suffering from a slipped band with some erotion I had my band removed and a revision to RNY. I was kind of sorry to lose my band, but the hell it put me through after being my best friend for over 3 years was more then I could bear. Now as far as RNY, it's really not as "evil" as some people make it out to be. The best part is that I have NO more reflux, PB'ing is just a bad memory, and NO more fills and unfills in my life anymore I'm also happy to report that I'm a member of the century club again!!!

[Titslereaux 1]

Brittwoman, I'm beginning consultations and weighing Band vs. Gastric Sleeve vs. Mini Bypass. I've spend a lot of time talking to surgeons, patients, members here, and I finally have an understanding of the differences between the 3 surgeries. Seems US surgeons prefer the mini bypass, while Mexican surgeons seemed to push just the sleeve.

Could you elaborate more? Why would you go the full route of mini bypass instead of just sticking with the sleeve? (This is NOT sarcasm, I really want to know to help me with my decisions.)

The way I understand it is that the "sleeve" portion of the surgery is where they remove 80% of your stomach to make the small sleeve/pouch, and the 2nd part is the mini bypass to eliminate food quickly. Is this basically correct?

Thank you, seriously.

[anonemouse 1]

The mini bypass is an entirely different surgery than the RNY bypass, isn't it? Everything I've ever seen about it said that the mini was basically not a desirable surgery. I've only seen one surgeon do any major advertising for it, and he's basically not at all respected in the field, from everything I've heard. He's the one that does YouTube videos that bash and mislead about the band. I can't remember his name for the life of me, though.

[Chickie 15]

I think his name is Ruttlage? Something like that, I think?

[Titslereaux 1]

I've heard that name associated with the sleeve. Any & all info encouraged & welcomed, please! Thanks!

[Chickie 15]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

He is the mini bypass guy. Rutledge. He loves to talk about the "Failed" lapbands on YouTube.

[Chickie 15]

MGB vs RNY This is the "Mini Bypass" explained

[nursinggal 1]

I am so glad to hear of your success. I just had all of my Fluid removed from my band and will start trying to get insurance approval for a conversion to bypass after Jan 1 (when my insurance changes). The band has not been successful to me and am praying for success with the other. Does anyone know of anyone who has done better with bypass vs lap band.???

[KarenB 0]

Hi all,

I just wrote a long post and lost the whole thing. So, I'll just say that I was revised to RNY on 6/18/07. Pre-banding, 232, lowest banded weight, 158, pre-revision, 210, presently 160. I'm a slow RNY loser, but have never been happier.

My band doctor and my RNY doctor told me the same thing; if you cannot tolerate solids with a lapband, there is something very wrong. Keeping a too-tight fill will lead to slippage and much worse.

Even after I was unfilled, I couldn't tolerate tuna, or white-meat chicken. Now I eat everything protein-wise, veggies, many fruits, etc. The band worked great for me for a while, and due to other problems, I could no longer tolerate it. The whole story is here on this board, just search my old posts if you're interested.

FYI, the mini-bypass isn't really used anymore; it was found to be an ineffective procedure. And oh yeah, my RNY surgeon returns emails within 24 hours, usually sooner, and urgent calls are returned immediately. But then I couldn't complain about Dr. Ortiz in that respect either, because he gives out his cell phone #!

Best wishes to all from a very happy revised RNY'er,

Karen

[nursinggal 1]

I am so happy for you. I want to know if there is a difference in the "fullness" feeling you have with RNY vs Lap-band. Do you have to take Protein supplements? Please tell me the major differences btw lapband and rny

[nursinggal 1]

I am so happy for you. I want to know if there is a difference in the "fullness" feeling you have with RNY vs Lap-band. Do you have to take Protein supplements? Please tell me the major differences btw lapband and rny. I am so scared at failing at this too!

[Titslereaux 1]

I'm still following along - thanks for the info. I'll go check out those links.

[WASaBubbleButt 41]

Oh my goodness please... not the mini gastric bypass! It's a horror. The surgeon can be the best in the world and you'll still have problems. It's just the nature of the beast.

I really didn't know a great deal about it until a friend I met wanted it done. Then I started doing serious research. US docs do NOT prefer this procedure, actually the better bariatric surgeons don't do that procedure because it is potentially so dangerous. That includes US and Mexican surgeons. There is a problem with bile leaking and you can end up with serious stomach and esophageal problems. The only docs really pushing it are docs like Ruttledge and they simply are not good surgeons. They are often times laughed at by the "real" surgeons, or those with actual positive reputations. Bottom line, in trying to find a surgeon to do the MGB none of the good docs were even willing to do the procedure. He'd either have to go to a crappy doc like Ruttledge or choose another procedure.

Please, either go for it and get GB or a sleeve, but not MGB.

[KarenB 0]

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. No reputable WLS surgeon will perform a "mini-bypass."

Nursingal, to answer your question; the feeling of fullness is similar for me. Yes, I take Protein supplements most days to make sure I get in all my Protein. The main difference, of course, is that your stomach is cut, stapled to make a smaller pouch, as opposed to being banded to make the smaller pouch, and your intestines are re-routed. So, it's a much more invasive procedure. However, for me, it's the right choice. If you're doing well with the band, that's great. There are many happy bandsters out there-- hope this helps!