THE SLOW LOSERS CLUB SUPPORT THREAD

[Cheeseburgh 3,080]

@Serengirl I checked my stats. I lost 34.8 pounds at my 3 month mark. Are you on any medications? I talked to my Dr after I read about a medication I was on (beta blocker) caused weight gain, I switched meds and it helped speed up my metabolism a bit. It wasn’t dramatic but it did help.

I also switched up my diet and ate pretty clean for 3 months and avoided processed food. Keep moving, journal everything you eat and research any medications you are taking.

Edited January 5, 2020 by Cheeseburgh

[Fatboyslim1 204]

2 hours ago, Serengirl said:

So today’s rant/ of one more person says calories in vs calories out I will scream because it’s bull crap. I track everything that I eat and drink I also track how much I burn and I average 3000 deficit every single day. At that rate I should drop 6 lbs a week!!! I have never dropped that much except my first week and one other week back when I was sick and it’s drives me crazy. It’s an emotional blow when I work so hard and then lose 1 pound or worse no weight what so ever week after week. I’m just feeling super angry and upset bec this happened before surgery so why did I even go through this?!! To push and to workout and drink all of my Water eat all of my Protein barely eat any calories, and still not drop a single frogging pound?!? bleeeeeeo bleeping bleep!!! I am just frigging over it to the point of despair. I’m only human and feel cursed that this isn’t working for me and I’m at a loss for what to do. At this rate I’ll reach my goal
Weight in 2024 MAYBE!!! 😫😫😫😫😫😫🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

1 hour ago, JessLess said:

@Serengirl, I was going to let that go, but of course, it's crap. Many things can skew it, tons of illnesses. Thyroid issues. PCOS. Tons of medications. Water consumption. Stress. Even sleep. Very little is actually known about it. If it was, we would all be on the same diet and it would work for everyone. Peer-reviewed journals like 'Obesity' have high impact factors because there is tons of interest in weight loss research.

Give it some time. You may be a slow loser and still lose all your access weight.

I didn't say anything because I'm trying to just let people be wrong and not worry about it, but when they are upsetting other people, like you, I'll say something.

Ok, get ready to scream. I believe the above is the kind of post that causes harm to all of our chances, as it quite frankly clouds the simple science of what we all attempting . The statement that one can run a 3000 calorie a day deficit for weeks and weeks and not lose a pound is simply ludicrous.

Call the CDC and donate your body to science. Call CNN and tell the world how you have changed the fundemental laws of physics, nature and energy.

But please dont go on a web forum that is full of people tying to make their lives better, and make them think there just might be some reason, other than eating too much, for why they are not losing weight, and even worse, gaining weight.

Sure steroids make you hungry (which means you eat more) and Water retention Adds temporary weight, but to portend that you for some reason are exempt from all known and logical facts is not doing anyone any good. Especially you.

feel free to scream away.

[summerset 5,265]

29 minutes ago, Fatboyslim1 said:

The statement that one can run a 3000 calorie a day deficit for weeks and weeks and not lose a pound is simply ludicrous.

They simply don't have this kind of deficit, even though if they sometimes might think they have.

To have a 3000 kcal deficit a day one must have a really high TDEE. People usually have much smaller deficits than this and therefore of course don't lose 7 lbs a week. Even if one is eating only 500 kcal a day that means a TDEE of 3500 kcal minimum a day and we're usually not talking about the 186 cm tall, 25 year old very active male on this board.

Most people overestimate the amount of calories they're burning and underestimate the amount of energy they're consuming. Even if people are "measuring everything" - how do people measure? Cups and spoons or gram?

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3 hours ago, Serengirl said:

So today’s rant/ of one more person says calories in vs calories out I will scream because it’s bull crap. I track everything that I eat and drink I also track how much I burn and I average 3000 deficit every single day.

Bull crap?

You know what bull crap is? The amount of calories burnt your tracker shows on the display at the end of your workout and unless you really had your resting metabolism rate tested and know how many calories you're burning at rest, everything about your daily deficit is guesswork.

[Fatboyslim1 204]

There is virtually no such thing as "I eat like a bird, but can't lose weight" . It is a self delusional fantasy like, I'm not a drug addict, but I use heroin every day. This may sound harsh, but obesity is as dangerous as narcotics in the long term.

If you have gone to the trouble of getting WLS then please use all it has to offer, without making nonsensical excuses that will hold you and others back.

best of luck!

Edited January 5, 2020 by Fatboyslim1
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2 minutes ago, Fatboyslim1 said:

So a 250# women in a coma burns 3250 calories, per day.

I doubt that since all of these TDEE calculators and resting metabolism calculators neither take body fat/lean body mass ratio into the equation nor interpersonal differences aside from gender and maybe age.

For obese individuals these calculator usually spit out values that are overestimating energy expenditure since body fat to LBM ratio is usually different than in a normal weight individual.

[GreenTealael 25,351]

I lost slowly as well. If a firm believer that my body did what was best for me. I can't help but to thing of the Tortoise and the Hare parable and it always comforted me.

Good Luck everyone 💚

[Dances with Carbs 168]

I lost slowly as well. If a firm believer that my body did what was best for me. I can't help but to thing of the Tortoise and the Hare parable and it always comforted me.
Good Luck everyone [emoji172]

Great analogy, tortoise and the hare and great outlook as well. I'm definitely in this slow losers club. I hit my 3 month stall and the scale hasn't moved for 3 weeks now. I'm still eating between 500 and 800 calories a day. I hit my Protein goal every day and I have significantly upped my Water intake to 100-120 oz a day now. I mountain hike 5 miles at a time, 3 times a week and do yoga twice a week. I know it will come off. It has to. It does get frustrating though. But I'm a tortoise not a hare; I will finish strong not fast.

Thanks GreenTealael

Xoxoxo

[Chardonnay40 153]

18 hours ago, GreenTealael said:

I lost slowly as well. If a firm believer that my body did what was best for me. I can't help but to thing of the Tortoise and the Hare parable and it always comforted me.

Good Luck everyone 💚

exactly! Sticking to the new lifestyle eating and working out, the body will do the right thing.

[Chardonnay40 153]

17 hours ago, Dances with Carbs said:

Great analogy, tortoise and the hare and great outlook as well. I'm definitely in this slow losers club. I hit my 3 month stall and the scale hasn't moved for 3 weeks now. I'm still eating between 500 and 800 calories a day. I hit my Protein goal every day and I have significantly upped my Water intake to 100-120 oz a day now. I mountain hike 5 miles at a time, 3 times a week and do yoga twice a week. I know it will come off. It has to. It does get frustrating though. But I'm a tortoise not a hare; I will finish strong not fast.

Thanks GreenTealael

Xoxoxo

and the inches will come off to help you get into smaller sizes. I also upped my Protein last week. I was avg 65-80. I am up to 95.

[Cherylmilla 160]

I love this thread. Following.

[sillykitty 10,774]

Maybe it's just a sign I've been on BP too long, but over and over again I have seen people complain that they are slow losers, but are actually just average or even fast losers.

How much of THE SLOW LOSERS CLUB is actually the Unrealistic Expectations Club?

I'm not at all saying there aren't slow losers. Life is a bell curve, and there are half as many people on each end. But I think the attitude displayed by those like @FluffyChix, @Cheeseburgh and others are what make the difference. I mean even for slow losers, isn't weight loss the fastest after WLS then any other "diet"? Even most slow losers get to -100 lbs or more in a year or so.

I just think labeling yourself a slow loser can be self defeating at times and seems very dysmorphic at others.

[jinnjuice527 23]

You are not alone! You had your surgery 12 days before me and I am also a slow loser. I am down 50, so it's around 14 a month on average which I could never maintain prior to surgery. My most recent nutritionist visit she practically told me to double my calories a day ( I did not) But I do get to 800 a couple days a week, and the scale has been moving, but slow. Maybe try adding an extra 100 calories a day and see what that does for you? If you get the scale moving again (and you will) let me know what you did to help things along!

I totally agree with this. As soon as I added 100 to 150 calories a day (I max at 800ish), i have consistently been losing close to 1/2 lb a day! We have to realize even 800 a day is a pretty big calorie deficit as most of us are well over 200 lbs when we start

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[jinnjuice527 23]

I'm losing on average 3 lbs a week and I'm happy because before surgery I had trouble losing weight every damn day of my life. 5 years ago I lost 85, it crept back on and I had so much trouble since. I'm down 30.5 since surgery 5 weeks ago and I am not complaining.

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[sisternewt@yahoo.com 102]

I truly am in the slow losers club. And most of the time I stayed super upset about it, but I try to focus on the fact I HAVE lost significant weight for the first time in over 35 years.
I had my surgery a year ago, and needed to lose about 150 lbs. I’ve lost 70 lbs. however, I have only lost about 10 lbs in the last 5 months. Still get in about 90 gms of Protein, drink my Water, stay under all carbs and sugar amounts.
I go to the dr this week for my one year check up. Am very anxious to hear what he had to say.
Again, while I had surely hoped to have lost more by now, I’m so thankful I’ve lost and feel so much better!!!!