Not feeling full

[Rolltide87 62]

I can feel hunger when hungry, but I don't get the "I'm full" feeling yet .. is this normal? So I eat really really small amounts in fear of "overeating " . Eating small is required anyways, but I really eat small because when I eat, I don't get the full sensation.. 🤦

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[SorryNameTaken 85]

I have had the same thing, so I measure everything I put in my mouth. These days I can definitely tell if I have overeaten, so hopefully the full feeling is coming along. I have been told that the pain blockers they use during surgery can last for quite a surprisingly long time and they make it difficult to feel the full feeling until it is completely worn off. I don't know how much validity there is behind that theory, but at least it's something.

Sometimes my nose runs when I have had enough to eat. Some people get stuffy noses or hiccups when they have eaten enough too, maybe you have had a sign you can look for?

[Rolltide87 62]

11 minutes ago, SorryNameTaken said:

I have had the same thing, so I measure everything I put in my mouth. These days I can definitely tell if I have overeaten, so hopefully the full feeling is coming along. I have been told that the pain blockers they use during surgery can last for quite a surprisingly long time and they make it difficult to feel the full feeling until it is completely worn off. I don't know how much validity there is behind that theory, but at least it's something.

Sometimes my nose runs when I have had enough to eat. Some people get stuffy noses or hiccups when they have eaten enough too, maybe you have had a sign you can look for?

I didn't think to measure it. What do you use? And i noticed sometimes I will hiccup 🤔 so possibly my sign.. I'll definitely pay more attention to myself to see if I hiccup after a meal every time etc . Thank you!!

[Krestel 330]

I soooo agree with you guys on this. I can get overfull easily (which is my falling back on old habits...and probably a bit of boredom), but it's really hard to find that in-between feeling. I know I need/should to go back to journaling and measuring to get back on track, but creating new habits is easier to do than breaking old ones.

Btw hiccups are soooo a sign of being full. From what I understand, it's the phrenic nerve that gets irritate by the stomach hitting up against it which can cause the hiccups. (Im just someone who had really bad phrenic nerve problems after surgery and was wondering what the damn this is, so Im SOOO NOT a doctor.) So it should mean that we are full. What is really odd is that Ive been laying down chilling in the sofa reading/surfing and I get up, I often have at least one hiccup. Since I often have just one hiccup and it definitely sounds like a hiccup (and not anything really embarrassing), Ive learned to embrace it. Not to mention, it's a nice reminder that my body has changed.

[catwoman7 11,212]

I don't know how far along you are, but the first few weeks you really don't get any sensations like that because 1) your nerves were cut during surgery and it takes awhile from them to regenerate, and 2) liquids and pureed foods go right through you. You're not likely to feel restriction until you move to solid food.

also, some people never get that "full feeling" back. They have to rely on measuring things. I don't always feel "full" - it's more of a discomfort - and I know if I keep eating, I'll probably throw up.

[FluffyChix 17,415]

5 hours ago, catwoman7 said:

I don't know how far along you are, but the first few weeks you really don't get any sensations like that because 1) your nerves were cut during surgery and it takes awhile from them to regenerate, and 2) liquids and pureed foods go right through you. You're not likely to feel restriction until you move to solid food.

also, some people never get that "full feeling" back. They have to rely on measuring things. I don't always feel "full" - it's more of a discomfort - and I know if I keep eating, I'll probably throw up.

This for sure!!!

I am almost 22 months. I weigh measure and track everything that goes in my mouth!!!

Here's something I wrote yesterday that gives food volumes and explains the diff between weighing and measuring! (I do both. I weight Protein on a scale into a 1 cup measuring cup. My forever diet is 1c volume per meal and 60-80g of protein per day. They are two different things: Part A = 1 cup per meal and Part B = 60-80g protein per day.

I need a measuring cup to make sure I satisfy Part A = no more than 1 cup per meal.

I need a scale to know that I am actually taking in 60-80g of protein per day.

OUNCES EXPLAINED BY VOLUME AND WEIGHT.pdf

[JessLess 1,163]

I think the goal is to fill sated, like you satisfied your hunger, rather than full. It took me a few months and I do weigh and measure everything. Now, if I'm eating something like a salad with chicken on it, I'll eat the chicken and maybe half a cup of salad, and then I get a feeling like I've hit a wall. So I stop eating. It's kind of cool!

It takes most people 20 minutes to fill "fullness" which is why eating slowly is important.

[KarenLR75 515]

I have found that I have VERY little restriction and I'm only..4.5 months out. Because of this and the fact that despite a horrible debacle with grilled chicken nuggets the other day (from eating too fast seems to be the main dr opinion), I also seem to have somewhat of an Iron pouch.

LOL..I still remember poor FluffyChix when I mentioned early on having some 'tummy/pouch' issues..I mentioned eating a P3 pack with sunflower seeds, nuts (I usually only eat 3 or 4 of them) and Jerky. She was..um shocked....that with a sensitive pouch that I would eat nuts and seeds. Ironically, that was the only thing my pouch tolerated and it calmed down a bit.

While I have only eaten something loaded with sugar 2 times..and I"m talking about 1 to 2 tbsps - not saying it was right or wise...or something with carbs at Thanksgiving..again, small amount but STILL..not wise for ME this so early in the journey with that 'honeymoon' period clock ticking away...my pouch was..like doing a happy dance..or maybe it was my addiction which will never be GONE.

Although I wish I had not tried what I did, I learned a very valuable lesson in time to mitigate the consequences of this knowledge that my pouch will not balk at most things and that is I have to be on vigilant guard against what I call trigger foods..or any food that is not in my plan for clean eating. I also know that once again, I need to get a therapist that deals with WLS was my preference but as I also need one that is very experienced with grief, I'm having a hard time finding 1 that does both.

All this being said, since I can consume more than normal at this point, I weigh and measure to ensure that I am getting 'enough' but not too much. I relentlessly log in my fitness pal to ensure I'm hitting my Protein goals and NOT exceeding carbs and fats. When I continue to do this I do notice that my hunger/desire for food is VASTLY CURBED and food is once again, fuel, not anything more which is what it needs to be for me.

I don't worry about not feeling full as that is not a barometer that works for me. I just focus on my macros which definitely help me limit my intake. Honestly, when I'm in the 'groove' and doing all the right things, it becomes almost a chore to think about food but I have to watch out for that as well or I'll find myself at 8 PM needing to get 40 grams of protein still in for the day and late night eating was a bad/old habit of mine.

[Rolltide87 62]

9 hours ago, FluffyChix said:

This for sure!!!

I am almost 22 months. I weigh measure and track everything that goes in my mouth!!!

Here's something I wrote yesterday that gives food volumes and explains the diff between weighing and measuring! (I do both. I weight Protein on a scale into a 1 cup measuring cup. My forever diet is 1c volume per meal and 60-80g of Protein per day. They are two different things: Part A = 1 cup per meal and Part B = 60-80g protein per day.

I need a measuring cup to make sure I satisfy Part A = no more than 1 cup per meal.

I need a scale to know that I am actually taking in 60-80g of protein per day.

OUNCES EXPLAINED BY VOLUME AND WEIGHT.pdf

I had my sleeve done on 11/15/19. Thank y'all for giving me good advice about measuring and good info pertaining to not feeling full! I didn't think about the nerves thing 🤦 I don't know why but it makes so much sense. It's also hard to eat small meals throughout the day because I also don't feel hungry often at all so im thinking that might be normal the first few weeks as well?

[catwoman7 11,212]

2 hours ago, Rolltide87 said:

I had my sleeve done on 11/15/19. Thank y'all for giving me good advice about measuring and good info pertaining to not feeling full! I didn't think about the nerves thing 🤦 I don't know why but it makes so much sense. It's also hard to eat small meals throughout the day because I also don't feel hungry often at all so im thinking that might be normal the first few weeks as well?

Yep! Most people (not all - but most) lose their sense of hunger for a few months. Mine came back at month 5. For others, it's up to a year. Really take advantage of that - it's so much easier to stick to your plan when you're never hungry! Things get tougher when your hunger returns...

[Krestel 330]

10 hours ago, KarenLR75 said:

I have found that I have VERY little restriction and I'm only..4.5 months out. I also seem to have somewhat of an Iron pouch.

Yeah, me too and Im just a little further out than you. Iron stomachs are not something that's talked about here because it's not a problem. I seem to be able to eat almost anything. The only real problems come up with rather extreme foods like coffee house pastries and super fried fast food. BUT Im happy that it feels that way since it's a real deterrent for me eating them. My big worry is about after the honeymoon phase if my new habits are enough.

[Rolltide87 62]

4 minutes ago, Krestel said:

Yeah, me too and Im just a little further out than you. Iron stomachs are not something that's talked about here because it's not a problem. I seem to be able to eat almost anything. The only real problems come up with rather extreme foods like coffee house pastries and super fried fast food. BUT Im happy that it feels that way since it's a real deterrent for me eating them. My big worry is about after the honeymoon phase if my new habits are enough.

What is the Iron pouch??? Never heard of it 🥺. And I'm 3 weeks post op and I can hold down anything but I'm just not hungry most of the day , which is new for me (I was use to being hungry often prior to surgery) . And yesss I'm questioning what will be after the honeymoon stage as well !

[Krestel 330]

Basically it is when you can eat basically almost anything and it doesn't affect how your pouch feels. Even during my surgery recovery, I had no problems with my stomach (although my damn shoulder from the abdominal gas and not being able to pee in the beginning was a problem). So for me, there is basically nothing that is off the menu for me unless I dump.

This is not something to try directly after surgery though since the nerves connecting the pouch have not reconnected, so it can cause real problems. ALWAYS follow your surgeons advice.

[Rolltide87 62]

8 minutes ago, Krestel said:

Basically it is when you can eat basically almost anything and it doesn't affect how your pouch feels. Even during my surgery recovery, I had no problems with my stomach (although my damn shoulder from the abdominal gas and not being able to pee in the beginning was a problem). So for me, there is basically nothing that is off the menu for me unless I dump.

This is not something to try directly after surgery though since the nerves connecting the pouch have not reconnected, so it can cause real problems. ALWAYS follow your surgeons advice.

Ohh okay gotcha. I haven't had any issues with foods except the one time I dumped from trying a food. I haven't tried anything I'm not suppose to have, but I've had no problem with keeping stages of foods down at all.

[Nonnaof4 54]

On 12/7/2019 at 6:57 AM, FluffyChix said:

This for sure!!!

I am almost 22 months. I weigh measure and track everything that goes in my mouth!!!

Here's something I wrote yesterday that gives food volumes and explains the diff between weighing and measuring! (I do both. I weight Protein on a scale into a 1 cup measuring cup. My forever diet is 1c volume per meal and 60-80g of Protein per day. They are two different things: Part A = 1 cup per meal and Part B = 60-80g protein per day.

I need a measuring cup to make sure I satisfy Part A = no more than 1 cup per meal.

I need a scale to know that I am actually taking in 60-80g of protein per day.

OUNCES EXPLAINED BY VOLUME AND WEIGHT.pdf

Thank you for posting that. I had that general idea but seeing it written out helped!!