summerset 5,265 Posted November 8, 2019 1 hour ago, BayougirlMrsS said: I'm still trying to figure out how the Sleeve fails people??? Honestly? No idea. I don't have a sleeve but an MGB and I don't understand how people can gain large amounts of weight back, maybe gaining it all back, maybe gaining it all back and then some. Why? Because I feel like I don't know how to do this. I eat (from my point of view) a lot, I often eat until I feel really full, I also don't shy away from calorie rich food, I'm not living in the gym... so I wonder how much and how often people would need to eat way above what feels comfortable in the stomach to gain that much weight. I can't imagine that all of this can be blamed upon "going back to old habits". I personally think that WLS has different impact on different people. Not only in the sense of who gets to a normal weight and how fast and/or how easy they go there, but also in the sense of how hard or easy maintaining is for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BayougirlMrsS 3,935 Posted November 8, 2019 So true..... I've been on this site for quite a few years and seen a lot of comings and going. In fact when i first got here it was called Lapbandtalk..... I did really well with the band and even my dr's (band, band remover and sleeve... all different) said i was not the "norm". that most for one don't keep off the weight that long with the band, and for sure most gain it all back after the band is removed (for whatever reason). When i went to the sleeve dr. he was very impressed that i had only gained 30lbs. in 2.5+ years.... I was, omg.... i gained 30lbs. lol..... It was making bad choices and eating more. For years i was never hungry... after removal... i remembered for sure. And i did start eating bread and rice again... Thank God i had the sense to stop.... I wanted the MGB, but this dr didn't do them and i didn't "weight" enough for GB. So i started this journey at a 31 bmi...... 5'2" SW 173.5.... today... still at 144.4 (two days now). But i know that in a few days i'll start going back down. Not worried. I have some really good friends that was sleeved. One, never lost a pound, one was a bandmember and hasn't lost anything, one was sleeved back in 2008, lost a lot and gained it all back. One sleeved 2017 and is gaining daily. I also have a close friend that had GB 1999 and i know she has put back an easy 70lbs or more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTealael 25,430 Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) I can chime in a little here about sleeve failure (although mine didn't fail me) This is from a surgeon's perspective not mine. And I've asked a few. I wish I would have recorded it. Some people did not have the correct surgery for their needs. Sleeve was originally part 1 of 2 of the Switch (DS) but it worked so well some people never needed to have part 2. Then insurance companies allowed it to be billed as a stand alone procedure. But that didnt mean everyone should have stopped at part 1, some people needed to go forward with part 2. (Goodbye honeymoon phase) When regain happens its seen as their fault instead of noncompletion of the process. Shame and guilt adds fuel to the fire and getting insurance companies to cover the "revision" without a complication is an epic battle. But y'all heard this all before... Edited November 8, 2019 by GreenTealael 3 summerset, FluffyChix and Bastian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
summerset 5,265 Posted November 9, 2019 10 hours ago, GreenTealael said: But y'all heard this all before... It can't be repeated often enough. 1 GreenTealael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JessLess 1,163 Posted November 9, 2019 @BayougirlMrsS, for me a year out, having the sleeve is like following a fairly strict diet with a lot of help. The diet is easier to follow, but I still need to follow it. I used to live in New Orleans and just spent 5 days in New Orleans and Mississippi. I was trying to be fairly good, but I drank more and ate off my plan more than I ever had before. At several restaurants in rural Mississippi, there was really nothing for me to eat, and I was taking clients out to lunch. I did the best I could and came home 2 lbs. up. Those 2 have already gone, but I can see how making this a habit would make the sleeve not very useful. I don't think the sleeve fails people (unless it gives them GERD) but people fail themselves by not prioritizing their weightloss goals. I also think it's OK if people DON'T want to prioritize their weight loss goals, but I'm not one of those people. 1 Bastian reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites