KETO? After surgery

[njcardi97 5]

I am currently scheduled for surgery June18th! yay! I am thinking once I get on regular food to go on a Keto diet. Anyone have experience, Advice if this diet would be a good option? Having some anxiety about after surgery diet

[Kmama5 6]

That’s what I’ve been doing, for the most part. Works for me!

[KCgirl061 1,532]

You have to eat A LOT of fat to be on a true Keto diet and get into ketosis. It's doable but I prefer to focus on a high protein/ low sugar diet, I think its more sustainable long term.

[KCgirl061 1,532]

https://www.bariatricpal.com/magazine/710-keto-and-bariatric-surgery/

[GradyCat 3,693]

I thought about it, but I'm just focusing on staying within Protein goals and avoiding bad foods for right now

[summerset 5,265]

I'd say WLS itself is enough for the time being, especially during the first months. Why are people looking for the dieting overkill?

Edited June 10, 2019 by summerset
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[KCgirl061 1,532]

On 06/10/2019 at 08:16, summerset said:

I'd say WLS itself is enough for the time being, especially during the first months. Why are people looking for the dieting overkill?

So true.

[med28thmed 118]

After my surgery, I stay away from carbs because I tend to get full very, very quickly. I can eat a huge bowl of chicken salad, lots of yogurt and fruits, but one or two bites of Pasta, I'm done. I eat cheeseburgers w/out the bun, if I want to keep eating.

I've been on diet all my life, I'm trying not to restrict myself again with anything. It's working for me. Once I crave something, it's gonna be in my head and ultimately drives me crazy. With the WLS, I can have a taste, satisfy my craving, but not overindulge. You'll find out. It's going to be exciting, and You'll be amazing! Good Luck.

[RickM 1,747]

The primary question here is,,,why? What do you hope to accomplish with it?

If Keto is something that you are already doing and like, and makes sense for you to keep doing it for the foreseeable future, then yes, you can do keto after surgery and it will work as well as anything.

If you are hoping to adopt it because of a belief that it will improve your WLS performance, then forget it. Summerset, above, has the right idea that the WLS by itself is plenty strong enough on its own.

Looking back 20-30 years, patients were often told to just "eat like you always did, just less..." and it worked! For a while. Of course, eating like what got them fat in the first place didn't prevent them from gaining weight again in the longer term. But this does illustrate one of the big powers of your WLS - that it is relatively insensitive to what style of diet is used that first six months to a year when we are losing rapidly. Low carb diets that are popular today work just as well as yesterday's low fat diets.

This means that we can concentrate on learning how to eat for long term health and weight control rather than promised quickie weight loss followed by inevitable regain that we get from the various fad diets. In the non-WLS world, diets fail 95+ percent of the time when you look out beyond a year, as people either hit diet fatigue and fall back on old habits, or they may actually get down to a normalish weight, and then regain as they fall back into old habits. The same thing happens with WLS, only it usually takes longer given the lingering restriction that we have - but the weight can come back over time if we don't learn how to keep it off, and most diets don't teach that.

[summerset 5,265]

47 minutes ago, RickM said:

In the non-WLS world, diets fail 95+ percent of the time when you look out beyond a year, as people either hit diet fatigue and fall back on old habits, or they may actually get down to a normalish weight, and then regain as they fall back into old habits. The same thing happens with WLS, only it usually takes longer given the lingering restriction that we have - but the weight can come back over time if we don't learn how to keep it off, and most diets don't teach that.

This dieting burnout - one can see it quite often in the WLS community. Don't believe it? People on here usually refer to it as "having fallen off the wagon".

Will there be WLS patients who'll do good on these kinds of diets in the long run? Yes, of course - if 95% of diets fail, 5% are successful after all.

The thing with restrictive diets is ("diet" in the sense of the food we're eating every day) that they all too often cut out or restrict either macronutrients like fat and/or carbohydrates and/or everyday foods that we like to eat, that you're confronted with everywhere and that are considered pretty "normal" and not particularly "unhealthy" by the people in your environment. Most people will fall prey to these everyday and everywhere foods in the end.

I don't know if I can bring my point across. I struggle with the words right now. Maybe it's also a thing that many Germans seem to have a different approach to eating and nutrition than many US-Americans? Though many US-American eating trends make it overseas in the end a few years later.

Most Germans however don't seem to e. g. consider bread an unhealthy food in general. Many might consider "white bread" as unhealthy but not bread in general. French fries might be considered unhealthy but not potatoes in general. Sugar laden dairy = unhealthy but not dairy in general.

With meat being the exception I'm not going to restrict my diet more than it has to be necessary.

[Healthy_life2 8,322]

18 hours ago, njcardi97 said:

I am currently scheduled for surgery June18th! yay! I am thinking once I get on regular food to go on a Keto diet. Anyone have experience, Advice if this diet would be a good option? Having some anxiety about after surgery diet

All diet plans and surgeries fail if you eat over your weight loss/maintaining calories/macros.

Sorry you are feeling anxious. Your surgery is going to be a great tool to help keep you on track. This will be different than other diet attempts. We are adults. Learn your bariatric basics. Find a long-term sustainable plan that works for you. Call it what you want, we are all on a diet. (Dietitians plan, vegan, keto, intermittent fasting, low carb paleo…. the list goes on)

If you choose keto, don’t eat over your calories/macros. If you choose your medical professionals plan, Dont eat over your calories and macros.

[delfie 81]

Agree with others, I don't really see the point. If I can achieve health and weight loss without resorting to this extreme way of eating (it seems extreme to me anyway), then why would I subject myself to that? I am close to a month and a half out and very happy with my results so far. I have a hard enough time getting in my Protein and Fiber as prescribed by my surgical team, I can't imagine trying to increase my fat intake to the level of ketosis, not to mention I would not be complying with the diet I have been told to follow to be successful.

That is just my personal opinion, I think people should do what works best for them, and probably in consultation with their doctor/surgeon.

[Frustr8 7,886]

Have you made any Cloud bread? Know others on Keto have made it and several videos on You-Tube give the directions.👼