Sub to bread

[LBwPCOS 14]

Hi

One food i am missing so much are smoked salmon sandwiches (not sure why but something about Salmon and avo - and can't do sushi to my understanding ever)

Now i am not at all ready to be trying bread etc but wondering if wraps are something people are able to digest? Looking at tortillas or mountain bread or sandwich things

I am in Australia so please if you do know of any ideas let me know if in Aus or not (so i can find substitutes)

[LadySin 404]

I'm interested in know as well. I'm in ths states. I miss carbs and as good as it is, a Dragon [emoji244] just can't live on cauliflower rice.

Oh how I miss sandwiches. Every since I was a very young Sin I loved even thought of two soft folds of goodness, wrapped around an even tastier middle I can nibble on...

OK I either need a sandwich or my wife right now. Not sure.



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[S@ssen@ch 745]

Based on my own personal experience and reading others comments on this forum, your ability to tolerate breads is entirely individual.

Having been banded in the past and now sleeved, my experiences are different with both procedures. With the band, I could tolerate everything. I had no issues with breads, sandwiches, tortillas, cake....you get the picture. With the sleeve, I wouldn't say I don't tolerate bread, BUT if I eat bread I have to be prepared to not be able to eat very much of anything else. I eat half of a sandwich with regular sliced bread (that's the equivalent of 1 slice of bread), but depending upon the items inside the sandwich I still might not be able to eat the entire 1/2 sandwich. I have eaten Buns (think hamburgers), but I do better if I take half the bun off and eat it open-faced. I have not tried thicker/heavier breads like a sub sandwich. Based upon the issue with regular sliced breads and buns, I doubt I'd get more than 2 or 3 bites in. I eat tortillas pretty regularly and I love a good wrap. Most of the time, they're too big to eat in one sitting. Thank goodness they make good left-overs.

My advice: it doesn't hurt to try, but if you do, take it slow. Also, breads tend to be a "gateway" food that leads you down a path to heavy carb eating. I know. I've been there.

[GreenTealael 25,336]

Lettuce! Keto bread made with coconut or almond flour, Coconut wrap paper, nori sheets... Visit this thread for ideas

Edited January 9, 2019 by GreenTealael

[FluffyChix 17,415]

Wasa Fiber Cracker Thins

Carb Balance (Mission Low Carb) Small Tortillas, cut into wedges and nuked until crisp on a paper towel

Several low carb breads such as Revolution Rolls (made small to new portion sizes) Here's my recipe version of it. I am biased and think it's the most bread-like: http://fluffychixcook.com/basic-revolution-ary-rolls-low-carb-and-gluten-free/

There are other low carb breads you can buy. Even Sarah Lee has a pretty lower carb.

It's def a YMMV thing. It's way too early to combine bread with Protein. My doc said it's the kiss of death and causes lots of Constipation and concrete in her patients.

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Here are some awesome sites to check out low carb/zero carb "breads" and other goodies for when you're ready:

- https://www.thinslimfoods.com/ (they have actual sliced bread products)

- https://www.thinslimfoods.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=34 (here's the bread )

- https://knowfoods.com/collections/frontpage (magical things here)

- https://shop.thinkproducts.com/ (more magical things)

Edited January 9, 2019 by Kimmie K

[sillykitty 10,774]

Agree, way too early out for bread, but once all healed, I tolerate bread just fine.

I also do sushi just fine. Raw tuna was one of my first soft Proteins. Why is it never again for you?

[LBwPCOS 14]

4 hours ago, sillykitty said:

Agree, way too early out for bread, but once all healed, I tolerate bread just fine.

I also do sushi just fine. Raw tuna was one of my first soft Proteins. Why is it never again for you?

Because of the rice and seaweed (unless thats a myth) - do you tolerate all breads fine??

I've had salmon and tuna to a tartare when i was on my pure/soft food stage and already with the smoked salmon with the egg

[LBwPCOS 14]

10 hours ago, LadySin said:

I'm interested in know as well. I'm in ths states. I miss carbs and as good as it is, a Dragon just can't live on cauliflower rice.

Oh how I miss sandwiches. Every since I was a very young Sin I loved even thought of two soft folds of goodness, wrapped around an even tastier middle I can nibble on...

OK I either need a sandwich or my wife right now. Not sure.



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YES THE PAIN OF WANTING IT ESP BECAUSE YOU CAN'T

there are links below for the states for alternatives but to have a wrap or a sandwich with friends would be just ideal (goodbye to salmon Bagels I've come to terms of that hahaha)

[LBwPCOS 14]

9 hours ago, S@ssen@ch said:

Based on my own personal experience and reading others comments on this forum, your ability to tolerate breads is entirely individual.

Having been banded in the past and now sleeved, my experiences are different with both procedures. With the band, I could tolerate everything. I had no issues with breads, sandwiches, tortillas, cake....you get the picture. With the sleeve, I wouldn't say I don't tolerate bread, BUT if I eat bread I have to be prepared to not be able to eat very much of anything else. I eat half of a sandwich with regular sliced bread (that's the equivalent of 1 slice of bread), but depending upon the items inside the sandwich I still might not be able to eat the entire 1/2 sandwich. I have eaten Buns (think hamburgers), but I do better if I take half the bun off and eat it open-faced. I have not tried thicker/heavier breads like a sub sandwich. Based upon the issue with regular sliced breads and buns, I doubt I'd get more than 2 or 3 bites in. I eat tortillas pretty regularly and I love a good wrap. Most of the time, they're too big to eat in one sitting. Thank goodness they make good left-overs.

My advice: it doesn't hurt to try, but if you do, take it slow. Also, breads tend to be a "gateway" food that leads you down a path to heavy carb eating. I know. I've been there.

What was it like when you were banded eating the breads? did you eat all types etc??

And you are totally right!! there were times where i would have a toasted sandwich for Breakfast then a sandwich for lunch and with out realising that was 4 slices of bread.

I think realistically i would like to have it as a wrap - more fillings less carbs (and not a fan of burgers but good idea to have it as an open!) do you use flower tortillas or corn???

[LBwPCOS 14]

9 hours ago, GreenTealael said:

Lettuce! Keto bread made with coconut or almond flour, Coconut wrap paper, nori sheets... Visit this thread for ideas

Thank you i'm having a read of it now!

Is Nori sheets ok for you to digest?! I was told Sushi wasn't a thing but i assumed it was both rice and seaweed?? if that's the case i can defs use this with excitement! What's coconut wrap paper? not showing up at my supermarket search

[sillykitty 10,774]

3 minutes ago, LBwPCOS said:

Because of the rice and seaweed (unless thats a myth) - do you tolerate all breads fine??

I've had salmon and tuna to a tartare when i was on my pure/soft food stage and already with the smoked salmon with the egg

I know every program is different. But mine doesn't disallow either rice or seaweed, or anything actually. My surgeon encourages low carb, but since I've been successful he doesn't say much to me about it.

There is very little that bothers my stomach. Sometimes food can feel heavy, and it's mildly uncomfortable, but that's about it. Yes, I've had bread (even bagels), rice, seaweed. You name it, I've had it.

I'm not encouraging you to not follow your surgeon's plan, but at the same time you have to find a long term sustainable diet for yourself. I absolutely rebel at the thought of being on a plan that includes "absolute never agains", that just seems unnecessarily draconian and unrealistic (small rant over)

Oh, and you could always do sushi with a cucumber wrap

[LBwPCOS 14]

1 minute ago, sillykitty said:

I know every program is different. But mine doesn't disallow either rice or seaweed, or anything actually. My surgeon encourages low carb, but since I've been successful he doesn't say much to me about it.

There is very little that bothers my stomach. Sometimes food can feel heavy, and it's mildly uncomfortable, but that's about it. Yes, I've had bread (even bagels), rice, seaweed. You name it, I've had it.

I'm not encouraging you to not follow your surgeon's plan, but at the same time you have to find a long term sustainable diet for yourself. I absolutely rebel at the thought of being on a plan that includes "absolute never agains", that just seems unnecessarily draconian and unrealistic (small rant over)

Oh, and you could always do sushi with a cucumber wrap

that is so good to know!!! It's been said because with the band - and with the small pouch and the 'gluggy' feel struggles to go down.

I tried Pasta last week and it didn't sit well in the stomach with cramps and was told to try it again in a few months time once the band has healed more and my body is more used to the changes (coming into 4 weeks post op)

Cucumber wraps look so good! gotta buy a tool for that!

Was told after 12-18 months 'can eat anything with caution but be prepared your body may not tolerate' and that rices and breads are things to be prepared not to substitute to not have the way i would once have. but please rant these 4 weeks have been the most frustrating times being into xmas new years etc - no regrets at all but I'm definitely realising how much of my socialising was around food (the amount of times since it's been coffee and walks oml) haha

[sillykitty 10,774]

1 minute ago, LBwPCOS said:

that is so good to know!!! It's been said because with the band - and with the small pouch and the 'gluggy' feel struggles to go down.

I tried Pasta last week and it didn't sit well in the stomach with cramps and was told to try it again in a few months time once the band has healed more and my body is more used to the changes (coming into 4 weeks post op)

Cucumber wraps look so good! gotta buy a tool for that!

Was told after 12-18 months 'can eat anything with caution but be prepared your body may not tolerate' and that rices and breads are things to be prepared not to substitute to not have the way i would once have. but please rant these 4 weeks have been the most frustrating times being into xmas new years etc - no regrets at all but I'm definitely realising how much of my socialising was around food (the amount of times since it's been coffee and walks oml) haha

Ok, I did not notice you were banded, not sleeved.

One of my close friends has the band. She is years out, but still often does not tolerate bread, and sometimes Pasta. I think sushi is ok for her though

[LBwPCOS 14]

1 minute ago, sillykitty said:

Ok, I did not notice you were banded, not sleeved.

One of my close friends has the band. She is years out, but still often does not tolerate bread, and sometimes Pasta. I think sushi is ok for her though

AHHHH CRYING!!! not really!! Keen to try the alternatives and hopefully wraps / rye / multigrain works later down the track but the ideas to try till then!! cannot wait to be on full diet in the next few weeks!