bamby021 27 Posted October 17, 2018 I'm almost 9 months out. I haven't been the best lately with food. I'm afraid my overrating might have caused some stretching. But I'm curious, do you think 2 eggs and a piece of toast is a lot for one meal? Are you able to eat that in one sitting 9 months out? Sent from my LGMP450 using BariatricPal mobile app 1 GreenTealael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MargoCL 677 Posted October 17, 2018 I was told through my plan that by 9mos out, my intake should be almost 1000kcal daily. So, two eggs and toast don't sound like a big meal by those standards. Additionally you cannot stretch your pouch. Your pouch can get accustomed to eating more by you grazing and overeating. But it will not physically stretch. If you feel like you are overeating you cal always do a pouch reset, which is basically going back to basics with your pre-op diet, then having nothing to eat on your "surgery" day and following your post op diet the next few days. 3 bamby021, Malcy and Wanda247 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bamby021 27 Posted October 17, 2018 I was told through my plan that by 9mos out, my intake should be almost 1000kcal daily. So, two eggs and toast don't sound like a big meal by those standards. Additionally you cannot stretch your pouch. Your pouch can get accustomed to eating more by you grazing and overeating. But it will not physically stretch. If you feel like you are overeating you cal always do a pouch reset, which is basically going back to basics with your pre-op diet, then having nothing to eat on your "surgery" day and following your post op diet the next few days. Thank you... Things are so confusing. I actually asked my surgeon if it was possible to stretch it back out and he said yes that overrating can actually do it. But I hear so many different things I don't know what to believe. I think I will try the reset..I was doing well for months after surgery but now I need to get back on track. Thank you again!Sent from my LGMP450 using BariatricPal mobile app 1 MargoCL reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Healthy_life 1,437 Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 38 minutes ago, bamby021 said: I'm almost 9 months out. I haven't been the best lately with food. I'm afraid my overrating might have caused some stretching. But I'm curious, do you think 2 eggs and a piece of toast is a lot for one meal? Are you able to eat that in one sitting 9 months out? Sent from my LGMP450 using BariatricPal mobile app Congrats on nine months out! Not sure what over eating is to you. You would seriously have to pack in food over and over to stretch your sleeve. If you are binge eating, you might want to look into a seeing counselor. If you think you have stretched it. call your Surgeon office. They will be able to diagnose it. (I have compassion for people that have stretched their surgery. Just know It's rare) Its common to consume more food as you progress out from sleeve surgery. Your stomach is not back to the original size but it is noticeable that you can hold more food. It has not stretched. This is where having the sleeve gets tricky. With the extra room in your sleeve it's easy to get in extra calories and gain weight. Strategies for the extra room in your stomach Keep calories and macros in range. (log if you don't know how much you are eating) Add lots of veggies with your Protein to fill the extra space to keep hunger down and calories low keep healthy salty sweet options for food cravings Watch carbs and sugar. Calories and cravings can catch up to you. Dense protein will fill you up better than soft stage foods. Catch yourself when you graze. Like said above . Grazing can be a combination of healthy and unhealthy foods in many small meals that total over your calories. It's as if you never had surgery. Edited October 17, 2018 by skinnylife 3 Wanda247, FluffyChix and bamby021 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bamby021 27 Posted October 17, 2018 Congrats on nine months out! Not sure what over eating is to you. You would seriously have to pack in food over and over to stretch your sleeve. If you are binge eating, you might want to look into a seeing counselor. If you think you have stretched it. call your Surgeon office. They will be able to diagnose it. (I have compassion for people that have stretched their surgery. Just know It's rare) Its common to consume more food as you progress out from sleeve surgery. Your stomach is not back to the original size but it is noticeable that you can hold more food. It has not stretched. This is where having the sleeve gets tricky. With the extra room in your sleeve it's easy to get in extra calories and gain weight. Strategies for the extra room in your stomach Keep calories and macros in range. (log if you don't know how much you are eating) Add lots of veggies with your Protein to fill the extra space to keep hunger down and calories low keep healthy salty sweet options for food cravings Watch carbs and sugar. Calories and cravings can catch up to you. Catch yourself when you graze. Like said above . Grazing can be a combination of healthy and unhealthy foods in many small meals that total over your calories. It's as if you never had surgery. Love it!! Thank you! So helpful. My overrating is continuing to eat when I'm already full and eating/snacking when I'm not truly hungry.. And it's mainly junk. I feel like I'm doing exactly what got me to be over weight to begin with. Sent from my LGMP450 using BariatricPal mobile app 1 FluffyChix reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluffyChix 17,415 Posted October 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, bamby021 said: Love it!! Thank you! So helpful. My overrating is continuing to eat when I'm already full and eating/snacking when I'm not truly hungry.. And it's mainly junk. I feel like I'm doing exactly what got me to be over weight to begin with. Sent from my LGMP450 using BariatricPal mobile app So you already KNOW the answer to your "kinda question" and it's not really about the breakfast...which is fine from a 9months out perspective (at least my 9mo perspective). 2 large eggs is roughly 100g by weight +/- a few grams. 1 piece of toast is roughly 28g=1oz by weight usually. So that is about 128g/28.35=4.5oz by weight of food. I routinely eat about 6-8oz of food by weight per meal. I try very very hard to only eat 2-3 meals per day and to not snack. Most days I win, some days I lose and lose big. LOL. I'm about 9 months out too (Feb 20 RNY). But knowing my volume is so large, I'm super careful to track and log my food and to also plan it out and have set calorie/macros that I target on any given day-- keeping carbs judicious and low. I eat 3-4oz of dense Protein first, and try for about 3oz of veg split between cooked veg and raw salad stuff. I do eat lower fat since I still have plenty of residual fat on my ass to supplement my lean protein and veg. LOL. Congrats on 9 months and on continuing to seek your answers to life-long weight loss!!! Keep going!!! 1 bamby021 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Healthy_life 1,437 Posted October 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, bamby021 said: Love it!! Thank you! So helpful. My overrating is continuing to eat when I'm already full and eating/snacking when I'm not truly hungry.. And it's mainly junk. I feel like I'm doing exactly what got me to be over weight to begin with. Sent from my LGMP450 using BariatricPal mobile app I say this repeatedly. Sometimes its not motivation it's having perspective. A person in hospice with three months to live would gladly trade places for our weight loss struggles. Getting back on plan can be done. Once you start eating carbs, sugar and extra calories you crave them more. Will it be fun to detox off the junk and extra calories, No. Behavior change is the sum of small efforts day in and day out. What you do in 24 hours will make a difference. Go back to basics. Log food, Hit your calories and macros, Hydrate, get in more activity. Nine months out I was at 1000 to 1100 calories. Check your plan. This is not the easy way out. This is the work all of us put in. 3 bamby021, FluffyChix and Starry*Night reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bamby021 27 Posted October 17, 2018 Thank you for the info... Honestly I never thought to put how much I'm eating into ounces! (Other than protein) It's a great idea. I don't post much on the site but I'm always reading. I love this group! Sent from my LGMP450 using BariatricPal mobile app 2 FluffyChix and Healthy_life reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluffyChix 17,415 Posted October 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, bamby021 said: Thank you for the info... Honestly I never thought to put how much I'm eating into ounces! (Other than protein) It's a great idea. I don't post much on the site but I'm always reading. I love this group! Sent from my LGMP450 using BariatricPal mobile app Until just recently when I started actively feeling "full cues" with a meal, knowing how much was "safe" for me to eat, and how much I "was allowed" to eat without stress and still lose, were the only things that kept me from continual stress and repeatedly questioning everything I ate and the amounts! LOL. This way, I know if my plate is only 5-6oz of whole foods, and I satisfy my Protein and hydration amounts, I can eat the meal, finish it with a clean plate, and go about my merry way until the next meal. When it gets up to 7oz, it's dependent on what it is--salads? No prob...dense beef or one pot meals? Big trouble... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTealael 25,430 Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, bamby021 said: Thank you... Things are so confusing. I actually asked my surgeon if it was possible to stretch it back out and he said yes that overrating can actually do it. But I hear so many different things I don't know what to believe. I think I will try the reset..I was doing well for months after surgery but now I need to get back on track. Thank you again! Sent from my LGMP450 using BariatricPal mobile app If your surgeon says it's possible it's because they have seen it. Are you tracking or stay within limits? Start there to see where you are vs where you should be Safe Journey! 1 FluffyChix reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kara Eckel 32 Posted October 19, 2018 I don't think that that sounds like that large of a meal, not for where you are in the program. It is definitely very possible to stretch the stomach back out, why wouldn't it be? While the bulk of the stomach is removed, the remainder is still flexible and expands, but It would take continuous meals that are too large to do it, though. Just focus on your Water and Protein, filling in the rest with nutrient rich food and you should really be fine. I've spoken with my surgeon at great lengths regarding this, as well as doing a lot of research. This is a big concern of mine... after all, none of us got to where we are from being delicate eaters (probably) 2 FluffyChix and bamby021 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Losebig 508 Posted October 19, 2018 I’m 10 months out and just finished dinner, which was 2 eggs, a slice of American cheese, 3 small sausage links and 1 piece of toast. I was right on the edge of painfully full. This minus the toast is a meal I have eaten at least once a day since July. Sounds like you are right on track. Keep track of calories and whatever else your nutritionist wants and try to stay within their limits. I’m in the maintenance phase and average around 2k calories a day. If you eat too much you will KNOW. I dry heaved for 30 minutes last night because I ate one strawberry to many. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Losing the old Harley 33 Posted January 2, 2019 On 10/20/2018 at 10:10, Losebig said: I’m 10 months out and just finished dinner, which was 2 eggs, a slice of American cheese, 3 small sausage links and 1 piece of toast. I was right on the edge of painfully full. This minus the toast is a meal I have eaten at least once a day since July. Sounds like you are right on track. Keep track of calories and whatever else your nutritionist wants and try to stay within their limits. I’m in the maintenance phase and average around 2k calories a day. If you eat too much you will KNOW. I dry heaved for 30 minutes last night because I ate one strawberry to many. How many meals do you have a day? Are you maintaining eating this much. I’m trying to maintain however can’t seem to eat the required calories Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Healthy_life 1,437 Posted January 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, HarleyS179 said: On 10/19/2018 at 5:10 PM, Losebig said: I’m 10 months out and just finished dinner, which was 2 eggs, a slice of American cheese, 3 small sausage links and 1 piece of toast. I was right on the edge of painfully full. This minus the toast is a meal I have eaten at least once a day since July. Sounds like you are right on track. Keep track of calories and whatever else your nutritionist wants and try to stay within their limits. I’m in the maintenance phase and average around 2k calories a day. If you eat too much you will KNOW. I dry heaved for 30 minutes last night because I ate one strawberry to many. How many meals do you have a day? Are you maintaining eating this much. I’m trying to maintain however can’t seem to eat the required calories I'm not sure what your maintaining instructions are. My dietician had me add low glycemic carbs to slow/stop my weight loss. I eat several small meals through the day to hit my calorie and macro goals. 1 FluffyChix reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites