Intermittent Fasting Daily Menu/Results/Accountability

[FluffyChix 17,415]

@sillykitty I'm so happy for your mommy!!! That's fabulous!!!! And who cares why she's doing it--she is certainly getting he benes of autophagy. And somewhere and somehow, when she's ready, she will make that longevity connection. It's only a matter of time. It first started for me as just a way to lose weight, and maybe get off asthma meds! And now look how far down the rabbit hole I am. That's amazing progress she has had and she is really lucky to have you to mentor/live vicariously through! And too awesome about following our post WLS forevs diet! Cuz the cal restriction is also adding to her autophagy!!

@GreenTealael - you just heal, heal, heal right now!!! There will be time for IF when you're ready to do it again! Congrats on aging backwards. You do look INCREDIBLY young to be xyz! Is that a thing? Can you be "too young looking?"

@AZhiker It does really sound like your circadian rhythms might be off. SIM Land writes about that a lot as does Jason Fung. But he also talks about having so much energy that you just get up and work! Keep hacking to try to find the solution hon!! I do know it feels like it gets better with time? Maybe try doing a "high carb snack" just before bed: like 1-2oz Granny Smith apple slices with a tbsp of almond butter or something like that. See if it helps?

Today is Day 1 for me after the surgery. I think it's gonna be "hellah hard." Cuz I've been eating weird for weeks now. Way too many carbs, eating whenever I'm hungry and I'm def not in ketosis. So *gulp* I just gotta put mah big girl panties on and drink that Water and green tea and walk when I feel like eating. Should be a busy day at work, so that hopefully helps!!!

[GreenTealael 25,330]

48 minutes ago, FluffyChix said:

@GreenTealael - you just heal, heal, heal right now!!! There will be time for IF when you're ready to do it again! Congrats on aging backwards. You do look INCREDIBLY young to be xyz! Is that a thing? Can you be "too young looking

Usually when people realize I have teenagers, they're like huh?!?

[Sheribear68 3,200]

Okay so quick IF question.
I typically have 1 ounce plain milk in my morning coffee. No sweetener. Just milk and coffee.

Does the milk count as me breaking my fast, or can I still consider myself in a fasting state?

[FluffyChix 17,415]

6 minutes ago, Sheribear68 said:

Okay so quick IF question.
I typically have 1 ounce plain milk in my morning coffee. No sweetener. Just milk and coffee.< br />
Does the milk count as me breaking my fast, or can I still consider myself in a fasting state?

Depends how purist you are. And why you're fasting. If it's for autophagy, then the answer is no one really knows yet, but I would think it would cuz of the precise amino acids in milk. Takes very little to leucine and isoleucine to stop autophagy. If it's for calorie restriction, time restriction, and weight loss, then I'd say no. I also think autophagy is "fluid" so we go in and out of it during the day-my opinion only.

So if that's what it takes to make you happy, I'd say do it. Also though I would tend to add either FairLife Milk or Premier Protein to up the Protein content while keeping your cals low if that's what you're doing. Otherwise heavy cream would be the choice if fat or cals were not an issue.

[Healthy_life2 8,324]

I have much to learn. I’m glad all of you have the knowledge to help me along the way, Today is day one 16/8 and alternating days.Fasting break is at 11:00. So far so good.

Still looking at how to change my diet.

[FluffyChix 17,415]

9 minutes ago, Healthy_life2 said:

I have much to learn. I’m glad all of you have the knowledge to help me along the way, Today is day one 16/8 and alternating days.Fasting break is at 11:00. So far so good.

Still looking at how to change my diet.

Yay! Love it and welcome!!! All the IF vets are here to help you and I can help you lollygag and screw around.

[GreenTealael 25,330]

Well Well Well...

I just realized Its been a proper year since I started IF. Happy to have shared this journey with everyone 🙌

I love the flexibility of being able to go on/off the IF lifestyle as needed. I find it easy to slip right back into it so that's a win. I totally will be doing this for life 🏆

[FluffyChix 17,415]

5 minutes ago, GreenTealael said:

Well Well Well...

I just realized Its been a proper year since I started IF. Happy to have shared this journey with everyone 🙌

I love the flexibility of being able to go on/off the IF lifestyle as needed. I find it easy to slip right back into it so that's a win. I totally will be doing this for life 🏆

Yay!!! Congrats girlie!!!! 🍾🍾

[Sheribear68 3,200]

On 08/05/2019 at 09:15, FluffyChix said:

Depends how purist you are. And why you're fasting. If it's for autophagy, then the answer is no one really knows yet, but I would think it would cuz of the precise amino acids in milk. Takes very little to leucine and isoleucine to stop autophagy. If it's for calorie restriction, time restriction, and weight loss, then I'd say no. I also think autophagy is "fluid" so we go in and out of it during the day-my opinion only.

So if that's what it takes to make you happy, I'd say do it. Also though I would tend to add either FairLife Milk or Premier Protein to up the Protein content while keeping your cals low if that's what you're doing. Otherwise heavy cream would be the choice if fat or cals were not an issue.

Thanks! I don’t feel like I’m to the point where I can go totally purist as I’m just as of tomorrow 6 months PO.
I do use fairlife milk only because of the increased Protein content.
Sadly any kind of Protein Shake like premier makes me sick to my stomach. Pretty sure it’s the artificial sweetener, as I’ve always had nausea/headaches with them. I’ve never in my life been able to tolerate anything except very tiny bits of stevia as a sugar substitute.

When I start to actually IF “properly” I’ll be more of a purist, but I love learning bits and pieces along the way before I actually arrive there.

My goal for this month is to drop 2 pounds weekly. I feel as if I do best on a daily 16:8 or 18:6.
As long as my milk in my morning coffee doesn’t count as breaking my fast, this is what I plan on doing every day this month.
As of right now if I try to go farther than 18:6 I can’t get my protein in daily but it’s okay.... I don’t need to be any more aggressive atm.

[FluffyChix 17,415]

6 minutes ago, Sheribear68 said:

Thanks! I don’t feel like I’m to the point where I can go totally purist as I’m just as of tomorrow 6 months PO.
I do use fairlife milk only because of the increased Protein content.
Sadly any kind of Protein Shake like premier makes me sick to my stomach. Pretty sure it’s the artificial sweetener, as I’ve always had nausea/headaches with them. I’ve never in my life been able to tolerate anything except very tiny bits of stevia as a sugar substitute.

When I start to actually IF “properly” I’ll be more of a purist, but I love learning bits and pieces along the way before I actually arrive there.

My goal for this month is to drop 2 pounds weekly. I feel as if I do best on a daily 16:8 or 18:6.
As long as my milk in my morning coffee doesn’t count as breaking my fast, this is what I plan on doing every day this month.
As of right now if I try to go farther than 18:6 I can’t get my Protein in daily but it’s okay.... I don’t need to be any more aggressive atm.

@GreenTealael has been doing the PP in her coffee the whole time and has had no probs! She's super successful! So I see no reason for you to change it up. Who cares about hardcore. And don't put that pressure on yourself to have 2lbs / week consistent. Cuz weight loss is never linear. It's a great "target" but if you don't make it, meh, it's not the end of the world.

You are doing great!!!

[summerset 5,265]

18 hours ago, Sheribear68 said:

Does the milk count as me breaking my fast, or can I still consider myself in a fasting state?

Fasting means no-calories. So technically you're not in a fasted state.

[FluffyChix 17,415]

2 hours ago, summerset said:

Fasting means no-calories. So technically you're not in a fasted state.

This is a misinformed statement.

There are different kinds of fasts. There is so much data from alternate day calorie restricted fasts and many experts believe this is the best type of fast for post-meno women in a long term setting. You can read more about fasting either with any of the millions of links that we've posted here, or buy Jason Fung's book on fasting. Or if you prefer vegan approaches, check out Dr. Valter Longo's Longevity Diet. Also other books dealing with a LIMITED number of calories per day on fasts would be:

Dr. Johnson's Alternate Day Diet

Dr. Krista Varady's Every Other Day Diet

Dr. Michael Mosley's Fast Diet

These are all books based on the same type of diet that features caloric restriction and is based on the work of Drs. Mark Mattson, Valter Longo, and Krista Varady as well as the people down at LSU who studied fasting and SIRT genes with relation to asthma reduction.

@Sheribear68 You are doing awesome!!! Don't get caught up in legalism. Do your thing and fast with your milk. These books above all show that SIRT genes ARE activated even in the presence of whey Protein consumption (ie milk). SIRT genes are a set of longevity genes that are repair genes that go in and lengthen telemeres (the end caps on our genes) and they help restore and heal.

[GreenTealael 25,330]

19 hours ago, FluffyChix said:

@GreenTealael has been doing the PP in her coffee the whole time and has had no probs! She's super successful! So I see no reason for you to change it up. Who cares about hardcore. And don't put that pressure on yourself to have 2lbs / week consistent. Cuz weight loss is never linear. It's a great "target" but if you don't make it, meh, it's not the end of the world.

You are doing great!!!

I have done a modified version from the start (~2 oz of pp in coffee 1x daily-breakfast) It helped ease me into the lifestyle and I was able to do it for 5 days straight my first go

Ive also done purer fasts wet and dry. What I noticed was the dryer the fast (consumption of no calories or liquids) the faster hunger dissipated and the quicker I lost weight (so I reserve these for religious & medical reasons)

These days I have given up coffee entirely 😭, but my tea has a little cream in it.

I did IF by accident yesterday and ended up losing 2lbs overnight (likely from Water weight but TMI: im in the luteal phase of my cycle where I traditional gain lbs)

HAPPY FASTING EVERYONE

Edited August 6, 2019 by GreenTealael

[FluffyChix 17,415]

35 minutes ago, GreenTealael said:

I have done a modified version from the start (~2 oz of pp in coffee 1x daily-breakfast) It helped ease me into the lifestyle and I was able to do it for 5 days straight my first go

Ive also done purer fasts wet and dry. What I noticed was the dryer the fast (consumption of no calories or liquids) the faster hunger dissipated and the quicker I lost weight (so I reserve these for religious & medical reasons)

These days I have given up coffee entirely 😭, but my tea has a little cream in it.

I did IF by accident yesterday and ended up losing 2lbs overnight (likely from Water weight but TMI: im in the luteal phase of my cycle where I traditional gain lbs)

HAPPY FASTING EVERYONE

You are an IF rockstar girl!!! Honestly, I think all of us: you, @sillykitty and I have all done the PP in coffee on fast days. I'm sitting here with 1oz in my coffee now. I'm gonna go for a second cup of it later. And I'll likely have broth later. Cuz yesterday was too hard and stressful. So will make it easier and be able to go longer.

Have you tried the peaches and cream PP in your tea? I bet the strawberries and cream would also be good. I heart strawberry tea!!

Congrats on 2lbs overnight!!!! Woot! (Or do I say sorry for your loss? I know you are trying to maintain!) Happy luteal phase? 🤔

[FluffyChix 17,415]

LOL, I have to share this with you guys here cuz you will appreciate this. This was on FB this morning from A DOCTOR, and MD...now granted, this doctor is MO by anyone's scale. And has no business preaching "healthy dietary improvements" until he fixes his own issues. But man. He termed this his HEALTHY GREEN DETOX SMOOTHY and gave the recipe for it. So I plugged it into MFP. And this is for 1 smoothy. LOL. Dear god. In what universe is it "healthy" to blend 1 tiny cup of spinach up with all this other gut bomb? 87g of carbs and 53g of sugar in 1 SMOOTY!!! And he's calling it "healthy". No wonder we are all having weight issues! 'merica. Come on. Use your brain!