rants and raves is not for sissies....

[stacy73 2]

Why do so many people on LBT take things way too seriously????......when someone posts something in the rants and raves section... they are ranting and raving... not making personal attacks on people.. well maybe some are..ha, ha... but I mean give me a break, if you do not want to engage in conversation that may spark some controversy do not participate, do not read the posts.. it is really amusing that some people really believe there are posters out there that are viciously trying to attack them, then they want to talk it out???huh???wtf?? this is not high school for crying out loud.. if you are not mature enough to know that other people in the world are going to have opinions that you do not share and you can't handle it.. then do not come into this section... do not read the posts.. and for heavens sake do not make the slightest attempt to reply....I am sure most of you all know what I am talking about....

[Chelle B 0]

Why do so many people on LBT take things way too seriously????......when someone posts something in the rants and raves section... they are ranting and raving... not making personal attacks on people.. well maybe some are..ha, ha... but I mean give me a break, if you do not want to engage in conversation that may spark some controversy do not participate, do not read the posts.. it is really amusing that some people really believe there are posters out there that are viciously trying to attack them, then they want to talk it out???huh???wtf?? this is not high school for crying out loud.. if you are not mature enough to know that other people in the world are going to have opinions that you do not share and you can't handle it.. then do not come into this section... do not read the posts.. and for heavens sake do not make the slightest attempt to reply....I am sure most of you all know what I am talking about....

Yup - I agree. And I think most people take way too many things in life seriously. Life is fun - enjoy the ride!

[Jachut 487]

Lol. I agree. And you need to be mature enough to realise that whilst what happens in rants and raves generally stays there, you cant unsay what you've said and people are going to use that information to form an opinion of you.

I often dont realise I'm there though. I always hit new posts and dont look at what forum the post is in. I'd go there specifically to start a thread, but I dont always realise when I'm replying that that's where I am.

You can usually tell of course, but I think many people stumble in there unintentionally.

[stacy73 2]

I usually stumble in when I see the experienced bandsters have posted- I really appreciate all the posts people like you Jachut, Wasa, and many others make- it makes it a more knowledgeable ride for someone like me who is relatively new at all of this-it just gets me that people take the time to vocalize that they are made vicitms of a personal vendetta by others on the forum-it really just cracks me up- I am always up for a little debate-if you can't handle it-no harm done-but why would one want to participate then? it really baffles me.. I guess it is the Scorpio in me talking...I may be opinionated, but I am not vicious.. I have never gotten the feeling that anyone here would outright target anyone-I guess peoples insecurities come out when they have nothing else better to do..

[Jachut 487]

I agree.

I'm always horrified when people say they've received PM's taking an argument started in R&R further. What sort of person would feel the need to go on personal attack? That's really low and even though I've thought some pretty personal things about people, lol, I would never target them that way, if I have something to say I just say it. So anybody who feels they were personally targetted by me would definitely be imagining things. And I'd say that's the case 95% of the time for other people too.

Being disagreed with online is a skill to learn, I had a lot of trouble with it when I first entered the world of chat forums. I got in some doozeys, not over stuff like goal weights but over politics, personal outlook etc.

But you know, I've also LEARNED heaps becuase most of those people have become my real life friends and I've valued the input they've had into my view of the world. There were things I really needed to learn.

Online debate is not about personal attack, its about opening your mind to other people's ways of thinking. I got that out of the goal weight debate, I now feel somewhat differently on it than I did becuase people have pointed out some very valid things to me. But unfortunately, not everyone wants to take away from it, they just want validation of their own opinions.

[DerickM 1]

I learned a long time ago that your not going to change someones opinion online.

Debate however is fun, even when you roll in the mud. Guess that makes me a pig

[anonemouse 1]

Why do so many people on LBT take things way too seriously????......when someone posts something in the rants and raves section... they are ranting and raving... not making personal attacks on people.. well maybe some are..ha, ha... but I mean give me a break, if you do not want to engage in conversation that may spark some controversy do not participate, do not read the posts.. it is really amusing that some people really believe there are posters out there that are viciously trying to attack them, then they want to talk it out???huh???wtf?? this is not high school for crying out loud.. if you are not mature enough to know that other people in the world are going to have opinions that you do not share and you can't handle it.. then do not come into this section... do not read the posts.. and for heavens sake do not make the slightest attempt to reply....I am sure most of you all know what I am talking about....

Dude, wait until you're on the receiving end of the wackjobs. It's SPECIAL. I mean, hell, it's so fucking out there that it really gets entertaining sometimes. :faint:

[WASaBubbleButt 41]

I learned a long time ago that your not going to change someones opinion online.

Debate however is fun, even when you roll in the mud. Guess that makes me a pig

I can't agree that you will never change someone's opinion on line. I post on another forum where there is formal debate and people have presented me with facts that I didn't know before and I changed my mind about a given subject. And same holds true the other way around. It's not about arguing, it's about debating a subject and getting the other person to defend their stance. It's a huge learning experience.

With that said we also need to remember that not everyone is playing with a full deck. And I sincerely don't mean that in a nasty way but quite literally. There are some people that have issues of their own and they just have to play it out until they move on to a new issue.

Hopefully, they will resolve their current issues soon. Heh...

[DerickM 1]

hmm, could I get a link? sounds like a interesting place to lurk around for awhile.

[WASaBubbleButt 41]

hmm, could I get a link? sounds like a interesting place to lurk around for awhile.

It's been very slow lately. Not sure if you would be interested or not, it's an atheism site. Still want a link? If so, I'll PM you.

[anonemouse 1]

It's been very slow lately. Not sure if you would be interested or not, it's an atheism site. Still want a link? If so, I'll PM you.

That the same link I've got?

[WASaBubbleButt 41]

That the same link I've got?

Yep, that's the one.

[DerickM 1]

Would I be tarred and feathered becuase I am a Deist?

[WASaBubbleButt 41]

Would I be tarred and feathered becuase I am a Deist?

Only if you are a fundie type deist that insists everyone think and believe as you do. In that case you'll be slam dunked and chewed on like a canine squeaky toy. However, a comparison of ideas and defending your stance is always welcome.

One of the most loved regulars there is deist.

[phyllisc 0]

There are certain subjects that I have no interest in participating in. Not becasue I don't have opinions, but because I could care less about others' opinions on the topic. I don't argue/debate religion or politics. I am going to believe/not believe the way I do, regardless of anyone else's opinions. I may find it interesting to read about others' opinions, but not enough to jump in. I would never treat anyone any differntly based on their political or religious beliefs. Certainly not in an online debate since their opinions do not effect me. However, in real life if they were trying to force their beliefs on me in ways that would effect my life, they would be in for a fight.

I have found that some people are just plain pig headed and are cyber bullies. Those people, I just find amusing.