Orchids&Dragons 9,047 Posted December 8, 2018 18 hours ago, GreenTealael said: I'm ok, my Hematologist is also an Oncologist (I think) so I get my blood work done in a Cancer Treatment Center Portion of a hospital. Then waited around for the appt, results, hungry, more scheduling etc. Just a long day of being a patient. My brother's hematologist is also a chemo doc. Must be a common tie-in. Hope all your results look great! 1 GreenTealael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchids&Dragons 9,047 Posted December 8, 2018 16 hours ago, sillykitty said: Hmm ... yeah, I can understand your worry I have been told that I should feel significantly more restriction now. NOT happening. To be fair, I think you and I were on the "abnormal" amount of restriction for the sleeve, but I was OK with that, as are you. I want my restriction back, now! 1 GreenTealael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluffyChix 17,415 Posted December 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, Orchids&Dragons said: So far, no change to esophagus issues (and didn't expect any) although if it becomes less inflamed (I'm on Carafate 3x/day) maybe the food will go down easier. My concern is that it was a reasonable amount because I purposefully stopped eating and put the rest in a box. However, I felt absolutely no restriction and could have kept eating (and seriously considered it.) I'm eating 1/2 an apple now for Breakfast. Never could have done that with the sleeve - not at 5 weeks, not at 8 months! So this is exactly like I feel with my RNY. I'm thinking that as you progress out a couple of months you will begin to feel greater restriction. You may never feel restriction from Pasta, rice, quinoa, etc + all cracker/chip/shenanigans. You will likely feel restriction on solid/dense/dry-sauce free meats, seafood, etc. And al dente veg will probably also fill you up as well. I also think though, that part of drinking while eating (because it's necessary for your esophagus stuff) is gonna pose an extra challenge for you. It means you will be able to eat more cuz it's pushing stuff through your pouch and stoma by making a slurry in your pouch. So you will just have to have a game plan to keep to really super low/healthy stuff most of the time since you will likely be able to eat more. Or you could try to back off of the drinking by tiny amounts and see how it goes? Congrats on being close to goal girl!! 2 1 GreenTealael, Orchids&Dragons and ElectricBoogaloo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchids&Dragons 9,047 Posted December 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, FluffyChix said: I also think though, that part of drinking while eating (because it's necessary for your esophagus stuff) is gonna pose an extra challenge for you. It means you will be able to eat more cuz it's pushing stuff through your pouch and stoma by making a slurry in your pouch. So you will just have to have a game plan to keep to really super low/healthy stuff most of the time since you will likely be able to eat more. Or you could try to back off of the drinking by tiny amounts and see how it goes? Yes, I'm sure the drinking will play a part. But, I wasn't drinking much, nothing like I did pre-op. Maybe 1/2 glass of tea compared to 2-3 glasses with a meal before WLS. Just going to have to feel my way along! Not sure if this is a celebration or a complaint, but also haven't found anything that causes dumping. I've eaten some small candies, nuts, Peanut Butter. All good (or bad, depending on your perspective). Yes, I know eating crap is bad and some of these things at 5 weeks are insane, but as I said, I'm really struggling with the "do-over." My head is not in the game this time around. 1 2 GreenTealael, FluffyChix and MIZ60 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTealael 25,439 Posted December 8, 2018 I only ever felt real restriction with certain foods, I learned to stop by portion size. If I eat a raw carrot, broccoli, cabbage, I feel restriction. Poultry, fish and red meat depending in density and preparation, I will feel restriction. I had to pay attention to time (eat for less than 15-20 minutes) and bari-servings. I Never got the sniffles, sneezes, it any other signal of near fullness. Just the oh no, I'm overfilled sensation. No bueno. 3 Grapefruit, FluffyChix and ElectricBoogaloo reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluffyChix 17,415 Posted December 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Orchids&Dragons said: Yes, I'm sure the drinking will play a part. But, I wasn't drinking much, nothing like I did pre-op. Maybe 1/2 glass of tea compared to 2-3 glasses with a meal before WLS. Just going to have to feel my way along! Not sure if this is a celebration or a complaint, but also haven't found anything that causes dumping. I've eaten some small candies, nuts, Peanut Butter. All good (or bad, depending on your perspective). Yes, I know eating crap is bad and some of these things at 5 weeks are insane, but as I said, I'm really struggling with the "do-over." My head is not in the game this time around. I can only imagine. In some ways it must feel like you've received a "get out of jail free" card? Cuz it has been so bad for you--for so so long. Right? And plus the whole Fatsgiving Christmas holiday calendar can't make it very easy either!!! I do think you just have to feel your way along onward through the fog. And for each of us it's different. But I can say 1/2glass of liquid with a meal makes a significant difference in the satiety of my meal...don't ask how I know this. hehe!!! And yeah the only thing I have found that makes me sick is too high fat in the meal. I have now tried sf candy and even a bite of dessert. No problemo. *sob* 2 Orchids&Dragons and GreenTealael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluffyChix 17,415 Posted December 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, GreenTealael said: I only ever felt real restriction with certain foods, I learned to stop by portion size. If I eat a raw carrot, broccoli, cabbage, I feel restriction. Poultry, fish and red meat depending in density and preparation, I will feel restriction. I had to pay attention to time (eat for less than 15-20 minutes) and bari-servings. I Never got the sniffles, sneezes, it any other signal of near fullness. Just the oh no, I'm overfilled sensation. No bueno. ^^^^This! This!!!^^^^ Same exact thing here!!! A million times. I just have to stick to my portion that I weigh and measure out each time! But um, it's "mature pouch" servings--not necessarily "bari". 1 2 ElectricBoogaloo, Orchids&Dragons and GreenTealael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTealael 25,439 Posted December 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, FluffyChix said: ^^^^This! This!!!^^^^ Same exact thing here!!! A million times. I just have to stick to my portion that I weigh and measure out each time! But um, it's "mature pouch" servings--not necessarily "bari". Well just for calorically dense things, salads I usually finish or get busy or bored with eating lol That's why I don't have a ton of after food photos... 1 1 Orchids&Dragons and FluffyChix reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluffyChix 17,415 Posted December 8, 2018 Just now, GreenTealael said: Well just for calorically dense things, salads I usually finish or get busy or bored with eating lol That's why I don't have a ton of after food photos... Exactly!!! Anything calorie dense for me is either limited to a "treat" status and I use TINY TINY portions of...or I just don't eat them. And hahahaha! It's totes strange when I have afters! It's like a cause for celebration here! I can eat the hell outta salads and Soups. My soups are brothy cuz I prefer that to calorie dense creamy soupy stewps, and so I "drink the broth first" until it's like moist solids left and then eat the solids. So I may serve myself 2 cups of Soup, but only then measure into it 1/2-3/4c of solid matrix with 2-3oz of that being meat. 1 GreenTealael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchids&Dragons 9,047 Posted December 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, FluffyChix said: And yeah the only thing I have found that makes me sick is too high fat in the meal. I have now tried sf candy and even a bite of dessert. No problemo. *sob* Noooo, it wasn't sugar-free candy! 1 FluffyChix reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTealael 25,439 Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Orchids&Dragons said: Yes, I'm sure the drinking will play a part. But, I wasn't drinking much, nothing like I did pre-op. Maybe 1/2 glass of tea compared to 2-3 glasses with a meal before WLS. Just going to have to feel my way along! Not sure if this is a celebration or a complaint, but also haven't found anything that causes dumping. I've eaten some small candies, nuts, Peanut Butter. All good (or bad, depending on your perspective). Yes, I know eating crap is bad and some of these things at 5 weeks are insane, but as I said, I'm really struggling with the "do-over." My head is not in the game this time around. I'm not sure you need to start over, but I'm not a doctor. You've had no regain, still losing, still in your honeymoon phase, one surgery flowed into the other ... IDK Anyone else experience something like this? Edited December 8, 2018 by GreenTealael 2 Orchids&Dragons and FluffyChix reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluffyChix 17,415 Posted December 8, 2018 Just now, GreenTealael said: I'm not sure you need to start over, but I'm not a doctor. You've had no regain, still losing, still in your honeymoon phase, one surgery flowed into the other ... IDK Anyone elses experience something like this? I agree with you! Wish @Matt Z would show up here to discuss this and his experience! Dr. Bombay! Calling Dr. Bombay!!! (Calling Ed Burns! Dr. Ed Awesome Sauce Burns!) 2 Kris77 and Orchids&Dragons reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchids&Dragons 9,047 Posted December 8, 2018 1 minute ago, GreenTealael said: I'm not sure you need to start over, but I'm not a doctor. You've had no regain, still losing, still in your honeymoon phase, one surgery flowed into the other ... IDK Anyone elses experience something like this? I'm supposed to start over through all the food stages because it's a new surgery and it all needs to heal. There's the same danger of damaging a suture line, etc. After a new surgery, the pouch is supposed to be tiny and inflamed, just like the first time, so you have tiny bits of food because that's all that is supposed to fit. And, to avoid all the things like nuts/seeds that can get stuck in the suture lines. I confess, I've even been into sunflower seeds. BAD Dragon! 2 FluffyChix and GreenTealael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTealael 25,439 Posted December 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Orchids&Dragons said: I'm supposed to start over through all the food stages because it's a new surgery and it all needs to heal. There's the same danger of damaging a suture line, etc. After a new surgery, the pouch is supposed to be tiny and inflamed, just like the first time, so you have tiny bits of food because that's all that is supposed to fit. And, to avoid all the things like nuts/seeds that can get stuck in the suture lines. I confess, I've even been into sunflower seeds. BAD Dragon! Hmmmm, I forgot about that. This topic deserves it's own thread. I bet there are other converts feeling the same way 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 1 FluffyChix reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluffyChix 17,415 Posted December 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Orchids&Dragons said: I'm supposed to start over through all the food stages because it's a new surgery and it all needs to heal. There's the same danger of damaging a suture line, etc. After a new surgery, the pouch is supposed to be tiny and inflamed, just like the first time, so you have tiny bits of food because that's all that is supposed to fit. And, to avoid all the things like nuts/seeds that can get stuck in the suture lines. I confess, I've even been into sunflower seeds. BAD Dragon! Ahhhhhhh! Bach! Ok, that makes sense! I thought you were sayin' you felt like you needed to do a "5 Day Pouch Reset" to punish yourself make yourself go back to small portions and be a good bariatric patient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites