PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, Lock down the guys/gals rooms by gender!!

[Born in Missouri 1,264]

The Veteran's Forum is respected (for WL veterans only), is it not? If that's the case, why are the other "only" forums treated any differently?

[CrankyMagpie 509]

*cough* Excuse me for pointing this out, but there are more than two genders. By rights, I shouldn't post in either place, but while my gender isn't female, that's where society puts me more often than not. So that's the room where I post.

I want to not have to put "female" or "male" on my profile. It's infuriating. I'm neither. If that means I eventually lose access to The Gals' Room, I can live with that.

Maybe this should be its own topic?

[CrankyMagpie 509]

Also, trans people weren't "born" one gender and "became" another. They were always the same gender, no matter what their body might have looked like. The term you want is "assigned," as in "assigned male at birth" or "assigned female at birth." The term you want for someone who has transitioned (whether medically or by clothing choice or any other way) is "male" or "female" or whatever gender they tell you they are.

And while we're here and talking about this, it's never OK to ask someone if they've had surgery as part of their transition. What's in someone's pants is not anyone else's business.

Edited September 21, 2018 by CrankyMagpie
added a little bit

[Matt Z 4,140]

@CrankyMagpie
I don't want this to come out wrong or anything, so understand I have no issues with anyone's preferences at all.
The issue really is that society can't seem to differentiate between "Sex" and "Gender" and Genetic/chromosomal realities. And, the whole shift is going to take time... I mean, we still aren't fully clear of any racial hang ups and that's been something "we" as a sociological whole have been working on for quite a while.

Heck, even what's acceptable within the Gay/Bi/Trans group itself has been changing quite a lot. I was a "Human Sexuality Information and Resource Distribution Manager" for a while, I've been around a LOT of various types of sexuality because of this. I see a lot of preference getting mixed with both Sex and Gender. It's a tough time for everyone really, with the constantly changing environment surrounding human sexuality and the changing (hopefully abolished) gender rolls imposed by society. It's even hard to be a CIS male and be supportive, because just being a white, CIS male makes me the enemy before folks get a chance to understand my perspective, and I'm sure it's the same for the other side of the equation. I've been in far too many situations where, just being who I was born puts me in a position of being hated by the rest of the audience for no reason other than me being how I was born. Hypocritical, of course, but hard to work through to get to the point where those taking offense at my preference, can see that I have no issues with theirs.

Only thing I can do is continue to be accepting and treat everyone equally. Human is Human. What you look like, act like, dress like, sound like, or what you prefer sexually... has zero to do with how you interact with other Humans.

Hopefully it's easier out there for my kids, or when they have kids.

I hope that didn't come out as offensive of insensitive...

Edited September 21, 2018 by Matt Z

[Oct517 527]

I feel like this thread should be shut down because it has basically become a place where transphobic people feel the need to spread their hate.

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[TakingABreak 2,733]

27 minutes ago, Oct517 said:

I feel like this thread should be shut down because it has basically become a place where transphobic people feel the need to spread their hate.

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Silencing oppressors doesn't win the fight.

[Oct517 527]

Silencing oppressors doesn't win the fight.

Not trying to "win" anything. Just pointing out that this is a wls forum where we should be discussing wls not bashing a group of people. I came here to read about wls not transphobic bs. This type of content should be removed.

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[TakingABreak 2,733]

3 minutes ago, Oct517 said:

Not trying to "win" anything. Just pointing out that this is a wls forum where we should be discussing wls not bashing a group of people. I came here to read about wls not transphobic bs. This type of content should be removed.

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You can unfollow the post, by clicking the pink icon that sits at the top of the thread, to the right hand side. Also, you only get notifications for a post when you comment... I'd avoid doing that if you don't want to be involved in said posts.

[Matt Z 4,140]

On 9/21/2018 at 4:48 PM, Oct517 said:

Not trying to "win" anything. Just pointing out that this is a wls forum where we should be discussing wls not bashing a group of people. I came here to read about wls not transphobic bs. This type of content should be removed.

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Who's bashing who where exactly?

[xoxococojay 842]

So to be clear- i have a vagina....and i’ve never ever peaked in the guys room because well who cares, it doesn’t apply to me.

But i second this. I’ve heard of sooooo many extremely nosy women in the guy’s room and even starting controversy and i’m just like (not to be rude) but get a life and leave them alone, the guys definitely aren’t peeking in the women’s section.

Another option, would be start a guys only Facebook group. There are plenty of these already for women set up.

[BayougirlMrsS 3,935]

This is the thing.... when looking at the "trending topics" on the right side of this.... you don't see that it is a "male" or "female" room.... So sometimes when you get to reading a topic, you simple make a post... it's not a matter of "poking" around. Plus in 2009, when i joined, there was no Male/Female rooms.... we were all one and all gave and took advice for whom ever wished to give it. Some good, some not so good..... but for sure we had a reallyyyyyy great time. Then people started getting their underwear in a knot and drove some of the great people away.

and you are incorrect.... lots of men give advice in the womans room..... at least they use too.