saygrace 122 Posted May 8, 2018 venting so feel free to ignore. don’t get why there is such a bias against weed. i met with the dietician and social worker today. both asked me about my marijuana usage and alcohol consumption. i said my marijuana use was down (a half lie? it is down but not as much as i said it was) but alcohol was up due to celebrating graduating college on saturday. they were both disappointed that i didn’t completely stop smoking pot, but had no problem with my drinking. they obviously want time to stop both for surgery, but didn’t seem phased about the drinking. in fact the social worker told me to “party it up” this weekend. granted i’m not phased about the drinking either, i’m really not a big drinker, it is just up because of celebrating my graduation and will calm down after this month. but still? i’m just venting but i really don’t understand why there is such a negative bias around pot. what’s the harm!! it’s legal here in MA!!! alcohol is worse for you!!! again just venting so feel free to ignore this 2 GreenTealael and beingdina reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KimTriesRNY 1,853 Posted May 8, 2018 There is evidence that smoking marijuana is harmful to lung tissue so it is understandable that some health care professionals would frown upon such practices from a health perspective whether it is legal or not. That is as far into the topic as I’m going. If you are a grown adult and it is legal and you are consuming within the bounds of the law then so be it. 3 GreenTealael, FluffyChix and Separ1418 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saygrace 122 Posted May 8, 2018 There is evidence that smoking marijuana is harmful to lung tissue so it is understandable that some health care professionals would frown upon such practices from a health perspective whether it is legal or not. That is as far into the topic as I’m going. If you are a grown adult and it is legal and you are consuming within the bounds of the law then so be it.I understand it from that perspective but isn’t alcohol just as harmful, if not more? I just don’t understand the dirty looks, etc. Like, I’m 22. Im graduating college with a 3.5 GPA and, so what, I smoke weed. Doesn’t make me a bad person 1 GreenTealael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTealael 25,430 Posted May 8, 2018 I understand it from that perspective but isn’t alcohol just as harmful, if not more? I just don’t understand the dirty looks, etc. Like, I’m 22. Im graduating college with a 3.5 GPA and, so what, I smoke weed. Doesn’t make me a bad person It surely does notBut for surgery purposes I would suggest switching to edibles to give your lungs a break and then you can safely tell them you have stopped smoking HW 270SW 238CW 188VSG 11/7[emoji471][emoji471][emoji471] 3 Apple203, beingdina and Angeleyez33 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saygrace 122 Posted May 8, 2018 It surely does notBut for surgery purposes I would suggest switching to edibles to give your lungs a break and then you can safely tell them you have stopped smoking HW 270SW 238CW 188VSG 11/7[emoji471][emoji471][emoji471]that was what my plan was! i’ve been vaping lately (not much better but hey) and stopped smoking blunts in february when i had my first appointment 1 GreenTealael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluffyChix 17,415 Posted May 8, 2018 I'm neither pro or con. I don't and won't personally use it. But that's me. Not you. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4789154/ ******************** https://asmbs.org/wp/uploads/2016/09/Telem-et-al_LSG-Pathway_2016_Final.pdf (From p. 17 of the ASMBS guidelines which helps determine and set standard of care for bariatric patients both pre and post surgery.) ******************* https://www.liversupport.com/medical-marijuana-alcoholism-and-the-liver/ (From the article "Medical Marijuana, Alcoholism, and Your Liver) ****************************** CBD is metabolized by the cytochrome P450 pathway, as are many other things including alcohol, especially almost any pharmaceutical. https://www.alternet.org/drugs/cbd-drug-interactions-role-cytochrome-p450 ********************** Note: When you ingest substances that the liver says, "Hey, we have to deal with this bad boy in a hurry, break it down and get it out of here!" it adds stress on our liver and causes it to work it's ass off. We're already stressing the liver by quick weight loss. Quick weight loss can actually make the liver more unhealthy before the weight loss and weight stability can make it better. So you don't want to add things to your body that: 1. Place more stress on your liver--an organ doing a MAJOR amount of the heavy lifting during weight loss (quick or otherwise). 2. Don't want to contribute to possible relapse into substance use. 3. Perhaps make things more toxic because it enters your blood stream so quickly, since your gut is altered (although no intestinal alterations occur with VSG, you still shorten (dramatically) the time it takes to ingest something to the time it hits the part of the intestine where it's processed by the liver (or into the blood stream where it is still processed by the liver). 2 GreenTealael and saygrace reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluffyChix 17,415 Posted May 8, 2018 There is also new research out that suggests CBD causes liver fibrosis. (Just like alcohol.) 1 GreenTealael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTealael 25,430 Posted May 8, 2018 [emoji41] But it's such a lovely way to burn [emoji41]HW 270SW 238CW 188VSG 11/7[emoji471][emoji471][emoji471] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saygrace 122 Posted May 8, 2018 [emoji41] But it's such a lovely way to burn [emoji41]HW 270SW 238CW 188VSG 11/7[emoji471][emoji471][emoji471]hahah i agree but my dr tests me for tobacco so i’ll cut it out 1 GreenTealael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreenTealael 25,430 Posted May 8, 2018 hahah i agree but my dr tests me for tobacco so i’ll cut it out Great choice!HW 270SW 238CW 188VSG 11/7[emoji471][emoji471][emoji471] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meggs11 32 Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) Honestly I don't get it either. To me alcohol is a lot more harmful. How many families have been torn apart because of marijuana compared to alcohol? I don't think either is good for you and consumption should be limited but I don't get why pot gets the side eye from so many people when getting drunk does not. Plus with pot at least you don't get a hangover the next day! I actually have a couple family members who are on medical marijuana for chronic pain and/or anxiety. Edited May 16, 2018 by Meggs11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saygrace 122 Posted May 19, 2018 Honestly I don't get it either. To me alcohol is a lot more harmful. How many families have been torn apart because of marijuana compared to alcohol? I don't think either is good for you and consumption should be limited but I don't get why pot gets the side eye from so many people when getting drunk does not. Plus with pot at least you don't get a hangover the next day! I actually have a couple family members who are on medical marijuana for chronic pain and/or anxiety. exactly! like of course i understand it shouldn’t be over indulged, but the side eye and dirty looks it gets are what pisses me off. i think i just get especially emotional because my dad had cancer when i was younger and medicinal marijuana was the one thing that helped him live a normal life when he was going through chemo. i don’t get how something that powerful and helpful can get such dirty looks and such a bad rep from healthcare professionals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sasa_maria 37 Posted May 19, 2018 Munchies maybe. I wouldn't smoke pot if you're trying to lose weight. I used to smoke and had an endless pit in my stomach. I ate everything when I smoked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Healthy_life2 8,324 Posted May 19, 2018 On 5/8/2018 at 10:15 AM, saygrace said: venting so feel free to ignore. don’t get why there is such a bias against weed. i met with the dietician and social worker today. both asked me about my marijuana usage and alcohol consumption. i said my marijuana use was down (a half lie? it is down but not as much as i said it was) but alcohol was up due to celebrating graduating college on saturday. they were both disappointed that i didn’t completely stop smoking pot, but had no problem with my drinking. they obviously want time to stop both for surgery, but didn’t seem phased about the drinking. in fact the social worker told me to “party it up” this weekend. granted i’m not phased about the drinking either, i’m really not a big drinker, it is just up because of celebrating my graduation and will calm down after this month. but still? i’m just venting but i really don’t understand why there is such a negative bias around pot. what’s the harm!! it’s legal here in MA!!! alcohol is worse for you!!! again just venting so feel free to ignore this Social worker? is that a pre surgery thing? Is this a part of your medical team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saygrace 122 Posted May 19, 2018 Social worker? is that a pre surgery thing? Is this a part of your medical team?yes it’s my psych lady. not sure why but her actual title is social worker not psychologist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites