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How is it that none of the ladies here knew what a "dutch oven" was? That must be a dude thing....

Totally a dude thing, unless any of the ladies have become victims of this horrible, horrible crime.

Let's face it, dudes are all about bodily functions, smells, oozes, pustules, and other gory stuff. A guy most certainly made up the "dutch oven" maneuver. Guys are disgusting. It's a wonder we even like having you around. Ever.

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CC what a beautiful quilt. Your friend will love it.

Merry Christmas everyone!8_2_85v.gif 8_2_109.gif 8_2_108.gif

You know 2 can play the dutch oven game:wink_smile: thats why it is called REVENGE!:thumbup:

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CC - gorgeous quilt ... i have no crafty talent whatsoever...

re - dutch oven (shudder) i knew someone - briefly - who did it. not a funny thing at all.

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Let's face it, dudes are all about bodily functions, smells, oozes, pustules, and other gory stuff. A guy most certainly made up the "dutch oven" maneuver. Guys are disgusting. It's a wonder we even like having you around. Ever.

True. How very true. Sad, but true!

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PJTP:

Merry Christmas!

And Happy holidays if you Celebrate something else!!

You guys are the best!

Ditto! And same to you PLain.

And now, DH and I are headed out to shovel...so that he can go do his shopping!

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well... a girl AND adopted ... what do you think ... :mellow:

That is the attitude I hate the most about adoption. As an adoptee, the brother of an adoptee, and a father to an adoptee, I have a very different view than most. Adoption is a wonderful thing. I guess I am lucky that everyone in DW's family doesn't even consider DD as adopted. They simply look at her and family.

That's stinks losing my sons father is blk and I being from alabama thought my family would be distant if not hateful even but they love him like nobodys business he's the most spoiled kid ever ...sometimes kids bring out the best in people I know..even tho my grandparents refuse to believe he's blk they tell everyone he's just tan...wth?

DD is bi racial as well. Living in MN during the winter, she looks like she just has a really good tan. During the summer, she gets really tan. Alot of women that see her tell her they are jealous of her skin color.

Um, you might want to start checking brake lines for accidental "leaks". Just saying.

I like a "heavy, buttery" type chard too. My fave is Fat Bastard. It's kinda cheap, but it's good.

As a matter of fact, I had new tires put on yesterday and they said my brake pads are bad. You must be Nostodamus.:thumbup:

Don't like wine, but my new favorite beer is Fat Tire from New Belgium Beer in CO.:thumbup:

PJTP: I finished the quilt top for my friend tonight! Tomorrow is his birthday so I will give it to his family so they can present it to him. I will have to get it back to finish the actual quilting but I wanted him to have it on his b-day. Here are some photos...

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Very nice quilt CC. I'm sure he will love it.

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Chick--that quilt is beautiful and amazing! He is so lucky!

Trey-same to you!

I am off to go see Mommy. You all know how I hate that. I have no doubt she will talk about how sickly I look and how I need to gain some weight and try to stuff me with BAD BAD foods! Keep me strong friends!

I also have to go play nice and pretend my marriage isn't a joke.

WOW, I am filled with christmas spirit this morning aren't I? lol...sorry guys!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS to all of my BEST friends!:thumbup:

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But when the kid is older, she will really appreciate that your dh did that and didn't let the drama interfere with their relationship. I know that one of my best friends goes through this with his ex and now that his kid is in HS, she choses to live with him and considers him the parent she can trust and rely on.

I hadn't thought of it that way. Thanks for adding a positive spin on it.

PJTP: I finished the quilt top for my friend tonight! Tomorrow is his birthday so I will give it to his family so they can present it to him. I will have to get it back to finish the actual quilting but I wanted him to have it on his b-day. Here are some photos...

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That is awesome.

PJTP:

Merry Christmas!

And Happy holidays if you Celebrate something else!!

You guys are the best!

Back at you!

I just have to add that I agree with those of you about adoption. I think that is the most wonderful gift. Anyone who would treat an adopted child as anything other than a gift should be slapped.

Now back to the regularly scheduled holiday merriment!

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Good Morning all and Merry Xmas or Xmas eve morning!? lol

Either way it's 430 here :thumbup: I woke up at 3am to use the restroom... I decided to weigh and I hit Onederland. I plan to tell anyone that will listen... even the ones that don't listen.

Colorado that's a very nice quilt :thumbup:

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PJTP-

20 yrs ago this morning, my sister, brother and I woke up to find our mom was not at home. As it was Christmas Eve morning, obviously, we couldn't figure out why. Shortly after we got up, she came home. Said she had received a phone call earlier and she needed to drive around to figure out the best way to tell us our dad had died of a heart attack in southern Missouri.

My parents divorced when I was 3 and we hardly saw him outside of a week during the summer. Even then, he worked instead of taking vacation, so we only saw him a few hours each night. Needless to say, it was a strained relationship.

There was so much he, and us, missed out on even before his death. He didn't come me or my brother play in sports or my sister cheerlead. He never met any of our girlfriends or boyfriends. He never even knew our friends.

Still, I loved him. He was my dad. I see alot of the way he did interact with me coming out in the relationship I have in with Cera. I tease her the way he used to tease me. He used to tell me I was his favorite oldest son. I tell her she is my favorite child.

He had been in the hospital for almost a week prior to his passing for chest pains. He never told us. He died of a complete blockage of one of his arteries leading from his heart. He never had a chance. We never got a chance to say good bye to him. He was a big man, 6' 2" and well over 300 lbs. He never exercised and sat behind a desk all day.

I was 18 when he passed away. I have now spent more of my life without my dad than I did with him alive. Even though he was not the father I would have wanted, or needed, he was my dad and I miss him.

With all the bad, some good did come out of his death. It was because of all that we missed out with him that I decided on the lap band. Even though I was adopted, body wise I looked alot like him. I was going to do all I could to make sure Cera had a father as long as possible.

Sorry for being a downer today. For the past 20 years Christmas Eve and Christmas just don't have the same joyous atmosphere for me.

Thanks for "listening" everyone.

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Ceradad~ You brought tears to my eyes :thumbup: I am very sorry for your loss. I can see how it would bring a whole new meaning to Christmas. Many do not know what they have till it is gone. Family is so very important.

I wish you and your family the best this holiday season and a healthy one.

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How is it that none of the ladies here knew what a "dutch oven" was? That must be a dude thing....

Maybe because we have hubbys who aren't disgusting, treasure us and don't want to subject us to such horrors?

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CC, darn, I am at work and the pictures won't show up here. Can't wait until I get home so I can see them.

BBK, good luck at your moms. Your strong and I know you can get through this.

Brandy, I congratulated you in another thread, I am so excited for you. I wish I was as home where I could post a really cool smiley for you.

Ceradad, I am so sorry. My sister died shortly before Christmas, she was only nine years old at the time. After that, Christmas was never the same for my parents. My dad would never participate and would just sit back and quietly watch all of us. Finally, when my kids were 6 months and 2 1/2 and my brothers was 5, and it was Christmas and he was not participating I told him while we all loved Patty and miss her dearly, he needs to focus on those of us who are here now. I told him by sitting back and not participating, he was really missing out on a great time in his grandkids lives and the opportunity to make wonderful new memories with them. He became really angry at me and stormed out of the room. I was devastated because I thought I had ruined Christmas for everyone then. But, about 45 minutes later he came out with tears in his eyes and gave me a big hug. He thanked me for making him realize this was not how Patty would want to be remembered as she was such a happy child despite all her disabilites and that she would want Christmas to be a wonderful, joyful time. We always take time to remember her now, but it is a happy time for us. We Celebrate her and are thankful for the short time we were able to have her here with us.

Christmas can be such a wonderful time of the year, and it can be tough. My heart goes out to you, but celebrate Cera and the family you have with you and honor those who are gone by remembering them and loving them. Don't focus on the regrets, focus on the good, positive things and the lessons you learned from them.

Merry Christmas everyone.

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Brandy-Thank you for your kind words.

Susan-I do not think I am too much of a downer for everyone else, that I know of. I do participate in the festivities, just not with an overwhelming amount of cheer. It's just that Christmas does not feel the same as it did previously. I've talked to my brother and sister and they feel the same way. My sister has 3 kids and we both try to make it more about our kids than about our feelings. That makes it more tolerable. Since Cera came along, I do have better feelings this time of year.

Also, I am sorry for your loss. Same as with me, while it was some time ago, it stays with you forever.

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