2 weeks post sleeve and just ate a whole pint of low cal ice cream

[GotProlactinoma 458]

The secret to cravings for sweets is that the cravings come from your gut bacteria. Bad, evil gut populations that want you to eat the sugar they live off. Having the surgery forces us to eat less anyway. It is a good idea to not eat sweet tasting foods, at all, including sugar free sweet foods, and even fruit. Eat your Protein without sweet flavors. If you can do this, and feed the gut bugs just some inulin (from chicory root) or potato starch, a tsp at a time in your Protein Drink. Your bad bugs that crave sugar will die out or shut up, and you will just crave the starch powder you’ve decided to add (inulin is better, but potato starch is way cheaper). Gut bugs love resistant starch. Eventually when you’re eating real food, they will make you crave sautéed onions, or roasted beets, or potato salad. All good things.

I think you were powerless against a sugary taste craving because somehow your doc / nut thinks eating sugar free sweet stuff is ok. They are wrong. This is the time to reset your diet and aim for Proteins you find yummy, and veggies you enjoy. Including tubers and root veggies. You got this. Feel better.

[VSG_Meow_Bitch 30]

So I’m new here but I need some help. I’m 2 weeks post gastric sleeve. I’ve been doing my best to maintain my diet requirements as far as Water intake, Protein Shakes and blended Soups. Per my doctor’s diet diet plan, I’m able to eat a sugar-free/fat free ice cream. So I went in search of it but only found a pint of low cal, low sugar ice cream. Well, without even thinking about, I ate the whole pint. At the moment, I’m only feeling gas moving around but I didn’t think I’d be able to do that. Aside from feeling like a complete failure right now, I’m worried of what can happen because I did this. Has anyone else ever done this and have you ever experienced any complications? Thank for any and all your responses!

I did that but it wasnt low fat ice cream. Just plain vanilla. It was Christmas and it was the only time ive had it since

[frust8 963]

Hey I found out our local Wal-Mart does carry Halo,Top. $3.89 for its tiny container. Funny but right now I'm not the least bit tempted.

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[Apple203 1,314]

20 hours ago, Rainbow_Warrior said:

The best thing about fresh fruit is eating the fibre. (FIBER in the USA)

To make frozen fruit alters the eating properties significantly. It's a 'once in a while' choice.

But at least it's not on the very bad choice scale like juicing fruit and throwing away the pulp.

I don't think this is actually true.

[tenseintexas 182]

I am really surprised your doctor suggested you could have any type of ice cream. We were lectured on and on about that type of food - no matter if it's zero fat zero calorie - being a no go. Not trying to jump on you at all- just very interesting how different doctors are

[jess9395 5,450]

I don't think this is actually true.

A quick search says Fiber is retained when frozen—

https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/are-frozen-fruits-and-vegetables-as-nutritious-as-fresh/

But I’m open to seeing some evidence about the fiber being lost

[Mhy12784 423]

1 hour ago, tenseintexas said:

I am really surprised your doctor suggested you could have any type of ice cream. We were lectured on and on about that type of food - no matter if it's zero fat zero calorie - being a no go. Not trying to jump on you at all- just very interesting how different doctors are

A doctor said certain zero calorie foods were a no go? I find that particularly hard to believe

Also I think sugar free popsicles/jello are an extremely common reccomendation from surgeons and nutritionist for patients especially in early stages.

As a matter of fact sugar free Jello and Italian ices were part of the meal plan when I was in the hospital postoperatively

[Rainbow_Warrior 996]

8 hours ago, Apple203 said:

I don't think this is actually true.

Then you should read more or consult a dietitian.

It's all clear advice given by them and medical people. (Exactly why they tell you NOT to give fruit juice to children ... the missing fibre plus the acid loaded dental attacks.)

[Rainbow_Warrior 996]

8 hours ago, jess9395 said:

A quick search says Fiber is retained when frozen—

https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/11/18/are-frozen-fruits-and-vegetables-as-nutritious-as-fresh/

But I’m open to seeing some evidence about the fiber being lost

You're comparing frozen whole fruits or fruit pieces to the stuff put through a machine that 'creams' and smooths it to a different consistency.

I agree that frozen WHOLE fruits or fruit pieces still retain all or nearly all their fibre. (And I agree that a NUMBER of fruits but NOT ALL are better than regular full-cream ice-cream ... calorie-wise and nutrition wise.)

[jess9395 5,450]

You're comparing frozen whole fruits or fruit pieces to the stuff put through a machine that 'creams' and smooths it to a different consistency.

I agree that frozen WHOLE fruits or fruit pieces still retain all or nearly all their fibre. (And I agree that a NUMBER of fruits but NOT ALL are better than regular full-cream ice-cream ... calorie-wise and nutrition wise.)

But if you freeze it and put it through one of those Yonanas machines or a food processor and then eat it... well how is that different than you chewing it to nothing? It’s not like juice where you actually remove parts (the fiber). You eat the whole fruit when you make these concoctions, don’t you?

Trying to figure this out!

Just a note—I avoided pretty much all fruit for six months or so and then added in berries (with Greek yogurt) and apples (with peanut butter) sparingly till a year then at goal I started to add back fruits.

I never did any of the sugar free popsicles or ice creams till I had been at goal for a while and now I do the halo types on occasion.

[Apple203 1,314]

9 hours ago, Rainbow_Warrior said:

Then you should read more or consult a dietitian.

It's all clear advice given by them and medical people. (Exactly why they tell you NOT to give fruit juice to children ... the missing fibre plus the acid loaded dental attacks.)

Thanks for mansplaining without providing any actual evidence. You were making a point about frozen foods losing fiber benefits in the post I responded to -- not juicing, which can remove fiber.

Edited March 19, 2018 by Apple203

[Apple203 1,314]

With linked studies: the evidence suggests that freezing can preserve nutrient value, and that the nutritional content of fresh and frozen produce is similar (2, 7, 11).

[Matt Z 4,140]

On 3/16/2018 at 1:14 AM, Danbug74 said:

So I’m new here but I need some help. I’m 2 weeks post gastric sleeve. I’ve been doing my best to maintain my diet requirements as far as Water intake, Protein Shakes and blended Soups. Per my doctor’s diet diet plan, I’m able to eat a sugar-free/fat free ice cream. So I went in search of it but only found a pint of low cal, low sugar ice cream. Well, without even thinking about, I ate the whole pint. At the moment, I’m only feeling gas moving around but I didn’t think I’d be able to do that. Aside from feeling like a complete failure right now, I’m worried of what can happen because I did this. Has anyone else ever done this and have you ever experienced any complications? Thank for any and all your responses!

Not sure if this was addressed and I missed it, but check out Halo Top for your ice cream substitutions, a whole pint is at max 320 calories, but it has 20 grams of protein! So it's not a total "lose / lose" situation.

[Mhy12784 423]

25 minutes ago, Matt Z said:

Not sure if this was addressed and I missed it, but check out Halo Top for your ice cream substitutions, a whole pint is at max 320 calories, but it has 20 grams of protein! So it's not a total "lose / lose" situation.

240 calories of "empty" calories (320 minus the 80 from protein) is still pretty bad when you're getting around 1200 calories a day.

[Apple203 1,314]

2 minutes ago, Mhy12784 said:

240 calories of "empty" calories (320 minus the 80 from protein) is still pretty bad when you're getting around 1200 calories a day.

If you eat a pint 1/2 cup is 60, 1/4 cup is 30.