Post-breakfast fatigue question

[Biddy zz 🏳️🌈 1,004]

Hi all

Day 19 post op. I had open surgery to remove a band and do a bypass.

The “two week” stall seems to have broken, down almost 2 lbs in 2 days. I am walking Daily now - a mile yesterday. Fatigue is passing - no longer needing a mid afternoon sleep. I am getting in about 600-700calories a day, about 50g Protein, and can happliy eat soft, well chewed solid food. Am slowly starting to learn my new tummy’s delicate feedback mechanisms.

My glitchy time is after Breakfast. I rise, maybe 6.15am (morning person). Sip some Water while feeding the dogs. Have a Decaf coffee. Shower, then 100g high-protein yoghurt. 10mins later, very tired and need a lie down for 20mins. I can eat that yoghurt problem-free other times.

I am prepping return to work - I have a demanding management role. I used to work 7-6. I didn’t eat breakfast back in my old life. I am tempted to not do breakfast again - I can’t be needing a lie-down in my office!!

Thoughts?

[FluffyChix 17,418]

Do you have a glucometer? My guess is that your 100g of yogurt is making a blood sugar spike, then a post prandial drop in bg. A spike after meals is a sign of high blood sugar which then causes sleepiness/fatigue?

[JohnnyCakes 593]

100 GRAMS OF Protein in one yogurt session?!?!

are you sure that’s accurate?

if so, stop that. 40g is about the most the body can efficiently digest/utilize at once. that is just waaaaay too much protein (and calories) at once.

switch your coffee to regular, eat about 40g worth of protein max, and get more sleep. you’ll feel better immediately..

Edited January 1, 2018 by JohnnyCakes

[Biddy zz 🏳️🌈 1,004]

22 minutes ago, JohnnyCakes said:

100 GRAMS OF Protein in one yogurt session?!?!

are you sure that’s accurate?

if so, stop that. 40g is about the most the body can efficiently digest/utilize at once. that is just waaaaay too much Protein (and calories) at once.

switch your coffee to regular, eat about 40g worth of protein max, and get more sleep. you’ll feel better immediately..

It is one of my three meals a day - 95 calories and 8g protein. The “serving size” says 160g but I can’t manage that much. It is 3 tablespoons, as per plan - can you confirm this is too many calories and too much protein in one meal?

And if so, for now (3 weeks post op) or forever? My surgeon has un on a strict three meals a day by 4 weeks post op - so each one has to average 20g protein, two calories.

Not trying to be argumentative, just checking my understanding!

Ta

[JohnnyCakes 593]

1 hour ago, Biddynz said:

It is one of my three meals a day - 95 calories and 8g Protein. The “serving size” says 160g but I can’t manage that much. It is 3 tablespoons, as per plan - can you confirm this is too many calories and too much protein in one meal?

And if so, for now (3 weeks post op) or forever? My surgeon has un on a strict three meals a day by 4 weeks post op - so each one has to average 20g protein, two calories.

Not trying to be argumentative, just checking my understanding!

Ta

oh... ok, that makes more sense. i must have misread your original post.

yea just switch to caffeinated coffee.

[FluffyChix 17,418]

Yeah, I had to double check too. I figured he was saying he was having 3.5oz of yogurt=100g. Good times!

Edited January 1, 2018 by FluffyChix

[Sosewsue61 3,185]

I don't understand surgeons with this three meals a day only thing because you cannot possibly ingest 20gr at one sitting this early out unless you are using Protein Drinks in between. Your energy is drained because you just had major surgery - do NOT skip Breakfast or you will be worse by 3pm. I would have to go against my surgeon on your plan - 6 planned meals is not considered grazing. I cannot eat 20gr at one sitting, at one meal I can only manage 3oz of dense Protein, and two bites of vegetables and I am 11 weeks out. Good luck with going back to work, make sure to carry Water with you constantly.

[Biddy zz 🏳️🌈 1,004]

3 hours ago, FluffyChix said:

Yeah, I had to double check too. I figured he was saying he was having 3.5oz of yogurt=100g. Good times!

Oh no - now I am confused. You are right - over 15 minutes I am having 3.5oz (100g) low fat yoghurt. My pouch is a fobi pouch (long and narrow, with a silastic ring at the base) rather than the traditional short round pouch - they don’t change shape over time, so what I am eating now is not far off my permanent eating capacity. The pouch never stretches.

So, Fluffychix - the idea that this is too much sugar for my intestine as it passes through - I hadn’t thought of that. Good advice, I will replace that with a scrambled egg tomorrow morning, see if that cuts out the fatigue. Thanks!

Biddy

[Biddy zz 🏳️🌈 1,004]

Thanks all

Had a scrambled egg for breakfast today - no fatigue. So you are right Fluffychix - sugar spike.

Intersting. Pre surgery I could eat a family size Cadbury block and have no such spike - or not that I noticed.

Maybe this will make me more in tune with my body. I have long regarded my body as simply a (pretty ugly) method to carry my brain around...

[FluffyChix 17,418]

Yay! Glad you had a better result!! I have to mix my yogurt with cottage cheese to reduce how quickly it goes in. I have about an ounce of yogurt, and the rest is 2% cottage cheese. That way I feel like I'm getting some probiotic advantage while eating the cottage cheese!