Naughty days?

[FluffyChix 17,418]

1 minute ago, Creekimp13 said:

is fear-mongering bullying?

I certainly thought so when people were telling me I was taking unnecessary risks with my life having the surgery.

I think the answer to that lies in the motivation. It can be. And it isn't necessarily a subset of bullying. We can unintentionally--based on wisdom and personal experience--fear monger out of position of "helpfulness." I honestly think the answer goes to "intent."

[MofromMs 18]

But that's not really the situation with the OP. The situation was that it was sooooooo soon after surgery. Your surgeon (unless you're in the UK or Europe) probably said at week 2-4 that you're only on puree or soft foods at that point. He says no alcohol for 8weeks-1 year or more post surgery. It isn't a question of moral pulchritude. It's an issue of physical healing. Will you injure your surgery? Will you bleed out in under 4 minutes because you drank alcohol and ate a slice of pizza (or chocolates), or overate?

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[MofromMs 18]

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My surgery was in the US and no I wouldn't have done that. My God the smell of pizza makes me sick.

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[Creekimp13 5,840]

So....anytime anyone admits to having a slip up.......the appropriate response is:

OMG YOU'RE GOING TO DIE!

I recognize nonsense when I see it.

You just want your bad behavior validated.

You're going to fail.

Because see...in my mind...that's bullying. The OP was being honest....and got punished for it. Even after she asked people not to punish her.

How the world dearly loves to humiliate a fat person.

Just sayin..

Edited January 5, 2018 by Creekimp13

[FluffyChix 17,418]

7 minutes ago, Creekimp13 said:

So....anytime anyone admits to having a slip up.......the appropriate response is:

OMG YOU'RE GOING TO DIE!

I recognize nonsense when I see it.

You just want your bad behavior validated.

You're going to fail.

Because see...in my mind...that's bullying. The OP was being honest....and got punished for it. Even after she asked people not to punish her.

How the world dearly loves to humiliate a fat person.

Just sayin..

@Creekimp13 Absolutely disagree. It's a case of timing. Had the OP posted this same thread even 3-6 months post op, I suspect many would not have commented as they did. I know I wouldn't see it as a black and white empirical situation at that point. Your new anatomy has likely healed. From that standpoint it would be...well hell...if you're a big enough girl to play, then just be prepared to pay. (Like prayin to the porcelain god with a dumping event.) It's a completely separate and individual order of magnitude when it's 2-4 weeks post surgery. Then it's really is a potential life or death risk. After healing...the order of magnitude isn't life or death...it's more like "life or puke/****" .

Edited January 5, 2018 by FluffyChix

[Creekimp13 5,840]

Tell me Fluff....how did your belly treat you 2-4 weeks post surgery? What types of things went down very easy and what types of things caused you problems? How did you feel?

Oh wait...you haven't had surgery yet...

Just sayin.

PS...I do hope you get approval soon. You've worked really hard and deserve it.

Edited January 5, 2018 by Creekimp13

[FluffyChix 17,418]

2 hours ago, FluffyChix said:

I am not a vet. I'm pre-surgery--so you all may say that I've no business posting on this thread.

@Creekimp13 LOL! Yep. I hear ya and too true. I'm just using my surgeon's instructions as a hard fast rule for 2-4 weeks post surgery. I really shouldn't even be posting to this thread!

[EagerPenguin 159]

Bullying takes many forms. Fear mongering falls under psychological bullying or abuse. It's an attempt to control or coerce another person into a given action by making the person afraid to make other choices than the one you suggest. It doesn't matter what the abuser intended, the end doesn't justify the means.

[_Kate_ 2,224]

1 hour ago, KCRN said:

Bullying takes many forms. Fear mongering falls under psychological bullying or abuse. It's an attempt to control or coerce another person into a given action by making the person afraid to make other choices than the one you suggest. It doesn't matter what the abuser intended, the end doesn't justify the means.

So when our surgeons tell us not to do a, b and c as we might split our healing stomach. when they tell us not to forget to drink 68oz of Water per day we may I end up very ill and back in hospital they are just bullies? Glad you cleared that up 😄

1 hour ago, Creekimp13 said:

Tell me Fluff....how did your belly treat you 2-4 weeks post surgery? What types of things went down very easy and what types of things caused you problems? How did you feel?

Oh wait...you haven't had surgery yet...

Just sayin.

PS...I do hope you get approval soon. You've worked really hard and deserve it.

shakes head.

[EagerPenguin 159]

1 minute ago, _Kate_ said:

So when our surgeons tell us not to do a, b and c as we might split our healing stomach. when they tell us not to forget to drink 68oz of Water per day we may I end up very ill and back in hospital they are just bullies?

Tsk tsk. You let your judgement cloud your thinking Kate. There's a difference between a medical professional explaining complications and a lay person dramatizing those complications.

[_Kate_ 2,224]

4 minutes ago, KCRN said:

Tsk tsk. You let your judgement cloud your thinking Kate. There's a difference between a medical professional explaining complications and a lay person dramatizing those complications.

So glad you explained that... lay person hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

[EagerPenguin 159]

2 minutes ago, _Kate_ said:

So glad you explained that... lay person hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

Really? Are you 10? Do you know what a lay person is? I'd bet not given your interaction on this thread so far.

[_Kate_ 2,224]

1 minute ago, KCRN said:

Really? Are you 10? Do you know what a lay person is? I'd bet not given your interaction on this thread so far.

You’re so funny KRCN ... seriously 🤣😀😂

[EagerPenguin 159]

6 minutes ago, _Kate_ said:

So glad you explained that...

Yeah it's pretty silly that I had to explain the difference between what a physician says and what a common person (does that term make more sense?) says.

[_Kate_ 2,224]

Hahahahaha.. thanks but you didn’t.