I won't follow the herd any more...

[skmsu 0]

Oh please, ask me about something unrelated to Wendell. He knows darn well that I won't answer anything about him and he knows why. Please don't get me started or the dam will burst and I really don't want to go there ever again. I have put that chapter of my life behind me.

And I am trying to be as sincere as I can with you. Perhaps Nancy can answer this one. And I have no doubt people here will crucify me for my non-answer, but I truly can't go there again. Not in a public forum. Not in a PM.

And for the good news - if anybody here cares - I hit the Century Club finally - I am down 101 lbs!

I think maybe what WASa is looking for here is a simple acknowledgement that this is unacceptable behavior. It does not make it anymore acceptable because it happened to someone that you have a negative history with. A lie is a lie. When someone represents themselves as a person with expertise in a field and continues to lie, those that know about it should not continue to promote that person as an authority. This goes beyond Wendell. She altered the text of an abstract that was published in a peer reviewed journal to make her point and posted it on OH. She made claims that RNY causes colon cancer and posted it on OH. By doing those 2 things totally unrelated to Wendell while posing as a nurse if she caused even one person to choose a surgery that was not the best option for them she committed a huge wrong. Right now on OH there is person soliciting her advice because she has an unexpected increase in restriction and had trouble drinking. As far as I know I was the only one who suggested she call her doc. That person does not need the advice of a liar, she needs to contact her physician and make sure everything is ok. I think it would be nice if some of the folks that created this situation on OH by promoting her in the past did the right thing by now by admitting the truth.

[Nancy B 0]

I like sweet drinks like pina coladas, where you can't taste the alcohol. One of the major reasons I don't drink is that I hate the way I feel afterwards. I get major hot flashes if I drink any alcohol, and I do mean any. I start sweating, my face turns red, and I honestly feel like I'm about to either puke or faint.

Lauren,

You sound like my SIL. She used to drink occasionally, but then developed an allergy to all alcohol. Same symptoms you are describing.

[Nancy B 0]

Funny how that works.

Sandy has never participated in fills yet she claims to have medical information about you that isn't true.

Just how does that work?

You know, if she had facts she'd use 'em. But the facts don't work for her so she creates whatever does work.

I'm interested in something.

Nancy, Chelle... what do you think about what Sandy did to Wendell? She made up information that was not factual, claimed it was medical information and passed it around via PM.

What is your take on this? I've been as sincere as I know how to be with both of you. I'm asking for the same in return.

I am not ignoring your question...just not sure how to answer. You might have gotten more out of me, if not for Lauren posting the private e-mail request I sent to Wendell (which went ignored, BTW). She had it at the tip of her fingers. So nothing I say will be confidential...I'm sure of that.

[Joyouslyme 0]

Congrats on breaking your stall Chelle.

[Nancy B 0]

Oh please, ask me about something unrelated to Wendell. He knows darn well that I won't answer anything about him and he knows why. Please don't get me started or the dam will burst and I really don't want to go there ever again. I have put that chapter of my life behind me.

And I am trying to be as sincere as I can with you. Perhaps Nancy can answer this one. And I have no doubt people here will crucify me for my non-answer, but I truly can't go there again. Not in a public forum. Not in a PM.

And for the good news - if anybody here cares - I hit the Century Club finally - I am down 101 lbs!

Chelle! The "Century Club". That's fantastic!

[skmsu 0]

And for the good news - if anybody here cares - I hit the Century Club finally - I am down 101 lbs!

Of course we care. That's great news! Congrats!!!:clap2:

[Nancy B 0]

I don't think so. I have offered the infamous olive tree branch and I think I'll get the same in return.

I'm not looking for specifics on what Sandy did, we all know that already. I'm looking for Chelle and Nancy opinions on what was done.

I think I'll get honest answers. If not, I'll admit my error.

Opinions....okay. Wendell blocked me out of his cyber world, so I don't think he really cares about my opinion about him.

But here are my general thoughts.

I can't stand liars.

I can't stand deception.

I think trolls, fakes, and imposters ought to be called out, but I also think it may be dangerous to do so, so I will choose my battles carefully in the future.

I don't like Bullies on Support Boards.

[Wendell Edwards 73]

I think they are returning the olive branch.

We'll see.

It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, a beautiful day in the neighborhood....

[Wendell Edwards 73]

I think maybe what WASa is looking for here is a simple acknowledgement that this is unacceptable behavior. It does not make it anymore acceptable because it happened to someone that you have a negative history with. A lie is a lie. When someone represents themselves as a person with expertise in a field and continues to lie, those that know about it should not continue to promote that person as an authority. This goes beyond Wendell. She altered the text of an abstract that was published in a peer reviewed journal to make her point and posted it on OH. She made claims that RNY causes colon cancer and posted it on OH. By doing those 2 things totally unrelated to Wendell while posing as a nurse if she caused even one person to choose a surgery that was not the best option for them she committed a huge wrong. Right now on OH there is person soliciting her advice because she has an unexpected increase in restriction and had trouble drinking. As far as I know I was the only one who suggested she call her doc. That person does not need the advice of a liar, she needs to contact her physician and make sure everything is ok. I think it would be nice if some of the folks that created this situation on OH by promoting her in the past did the right thing by now by admitting the truth.

Jack Nicholson in "A few good men" had the correct answer for this group:

"You can't handle the truth!"

[Wendell Edwards 73]

Oh please, ask me about something unrelated to Wendell. He knows darn well that I won't answer anything about him and he knows why. Please don't get me started or the dam will burst and I really don't want to go there ever again. I have put that chapter of my life behind me.

And I am trying to be as sincere as I can with you. Perhaps Nancy can answer this one. And I have no doubt people here will crucify me for my non-answer, but I truly can't go there again. Not in a public forum. Not in a PM.

And for the good news - if anybody here cares - I hit the Century Club finally - I am down 101 lbs!

I think I saw a link about this the other day:

3. Be selective

Selective editing is a good way to avoid engaging with your opponent's better arguments. Simply delete that intelligent, pointed question which ends paragraph three and reply instead to the weaker arguments beneath. Should your opponent post something like "I'm sorry but you're talking crap", snip everything but the first two words then graciously accept his apology.

7. One step ahead

Pre-empt all replies. Tell your opponent that you know exactly how he or she is going to respond to your message because you've seen it all before. List all potential counter-arguments to your position and invite your opponent to choose one.

[skmsu 0]

Opinions....okay. Wendell blocked me out of his cyber world, so I don't think he really cares about my opinion about him.

But here are my general thoughts.

I can't stand liars.

I can't stand deception.

I think trolls, fakes, and imposters ought to be called out, but I also think it may be dangerous to do so, so I will choose my battles carefully in the future.

I don't like Bullies on Support Boards.

I can appreciate this answer. We have all been in positions where we have been wrong about people, and have become painfully aware of it. The fact that this post is what it is and does not try and dispute anything says a lot. At least for me.

[Chelle B 0]

Congrats on breaking your stall Chelle.

Thank you so much - it has been a long and difficult year Healthwise, and I am now seeing the end of the tunnel.

[Chelle B 0]

I don't think so. I have offered the infamous olive tree branch and I think I'll get the same in return.

I'm not looking for specifics on what Sandy did, we all know that already. I'm looking for Chelle and Nancy opinions on what was done.

I think I'll get honest answers. If not, I'll admit my error.

My opinions:

I detest liars in any form or fashion.

Some people lie to save themselves. Understandable, yet still disgraceful.

Trolls lie. People with hidden agendas lie. Manipulators lie most of all, because they are lying to themselves as well.

I dislike cyber-bullies. They are cowards and generally very different in person.

Nancy is right about the dangers of calling someone out. We've seen it up close and I will be very careful in the future to stay away from potentially bad situations.

I see from the posts on here that some would be thrilled if I could be provoked into saying more, but all the sarcasm and pushing is not going to change how I feel. I really don't want to battle with anybody - life is much too short for that.

Right now I am thrilled the scale is moving again after months of a plateau and I want to enjoy this day. Sometimes I am selfish that way.

[Chelle B 0]

Of course we care. That's great news! Congrats!!!:clap2:

Thanks, Susan!

[Wendell Edwards 73]

My opinions:

I detest liars in any form or fashion.

Some people lie to save themselves. Understandable, yet still disgraceful.

Trolls lie. People with hidden agendas lie. Manipulators lie most of all, because they are lying to themselves as well.

I dislike cyber-bullies. They are cowards and generally very different in person.

Nancy is right about the dangers of calling someone out. We've seen it up close and I will be very careful in the future to stay away from potentially bad situations.

I see from the posts on here that some would be thrilled if I could be provoked into saying more, but all the sarcasm and pushing is not going to change how I feel. I really don't want to battle with anybody - life is much too short for that.

Right now I am thrilled the scale is moving again after months of a plateau and I want to enjoy this day. Sometimes I am selfish that way.

Hi Chelle,

After six long months you finally are seeing progress.

Congratulations!

I wish you continued success!