ELENATION 0 Posted October 9, 2007 That's what you believe, though. I bet if you ask certain members of other religions whether their deity is the same as another deity, they'd disagree. It just depends on how they believe. I guess so... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daisalana 33 Posted October 9, 2007 Yes, I don't believe Buddha or Allah is God. :eek: And that's as far as I'm going, I hate hate hate being in religious debates, and I smell it coming right around the bend! But I do so enjoy listening to people's opinions on it. :biggrin1: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ELENATION 0 Posted October 9, 2007 I think at a very fundamental (or perhaps infantile is a better word) level, people are looking for ways to explain things that they cannot otherwise explain, e.g. origin myths. Indeed! Ask a satanist if they worship the same deity as christians. I agree with that... different deity, though ultimately they workship their "God" whoever that may be... Since you are an atheist, and please forgive me, this may be a stupid question and I can probably guess the answer, but I'll ask anyway.... Do you think that Satan's workshipers and Christ workshipers are pretty much the same, because they workship something or someone that in your opinion doesn't exist? or do you see a difference because of their different deity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonemouse 1 Posted October 9, 2007 I agree with that... different deity, though ultimately they workship their "God" whoever that may be...Since you are an atheist, and please forgive me, this may be a stupid question and I can probably guess the answer, but I'll ask anyway.... Do you think that Satan's workshipers and Christ workshipers are pretty much the same, because they workship something or someone that in your opinion doesn't exist? or do you see a difference because of their different deity? Every person with a religion has a god. A god is different from God, though. God is a god, but all gods aren't God. And I'm an Atheist, too, so I'll answer your question, along with Wheetsin. I don't see any difference between a Satanist, a Christian, a Muslim, or a Buddhist. Or any other believer in a higher power, for that matter. They're just people that need to believe that something out there is bigger than them. They aren't WRONG for believing what they believe, I just don't believe with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ELENATION 0 Posted October 9, 2007 Every person with a religion has a god. A god is different from God, though. God is a god, but all gods aren't God. And I'm an Atheist, too, so I'll answer your question, along with Wheetsin. I don't see any difference between a Satanist, a Christian, a Muslim, or a Buddhist. Or any other believer in a higher power, for that matter. They're just people that need to believe that something out there is bigger than them. They aren't WRONG for believing what they believe, I just don't believe with them. For me, Christ is my God, but when I've talked to Muslims and buddhists, they refer to Allah and Buddha as their "God" which leads me to believe that people from all different religions think that their religion leader is "God" , in your opinion, why do you think that Allah and Buddha are not GOd? who would you consider GOd, or at least, who do you think that religious people could consider God? And thank you for answering my question from my previous post....I thought that would be the answer, but wanted to make sure... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wheetsin 714 Posted October 9, 2007 Since you are an atheist, and please forgive me, this may be a stupid question and I can probably guess the answer, but I'll ask anyway.... Do you think that Satan's workshipers and Christ workshipers are pretty much the same, because they workship something or someone that in your opinion doesn't exist? or do you see a difference because of their different deity? Sorry, but it's worshipper, not workshiper. Had to get that out there. :eek: You're qualifying a group compared to my personal beliefs. By doing so, you eliminate consideration of individual differences. Through your definition, you've reduced them to nothing more individualized or specific than, generically, "those who believe." As an analogy, if you lump people from 15 countries into "people," they can be no more than "people" generic. I do not believe that "people" are without individual, etnic, cultural, etc. differences. And I do not that "believers" all believe the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonemouse 1 Posted October 9, 2007 For me, Christ is my God, but when I've talked to Muslims and buddhists, they refer to Allah and Buddha as their "God" which leads me to believe that people from all different religions think that their religion leader is "God" , in your opinion, why do you think that Allah and Buddha are not GOd? who would you consider GOd, or at least, who do you think that religious people could consider God?And thank you for answering my question from my previous post....I thought that would be the answer, but wanted to make sure... God (with a capital G) is the name of the Christian god. A god (with a lower-case g) is by definition a supreme being according to some particular conception or one of several deities presiding over some portion of worldly affairs. There is a difference between the two. Yes, the Christian God is a god, as are Allah and Buddha. Allah is not the Christian God. Allah is a god, but he is the Muslim god. May be semantics, but one god does not equal another god. They may both be gods but they are not both God. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonemouse 1 Posted October 9, 2007 Anyone else suddenly finding the word "god" to be incredibly weird? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WASaBubbleButt 41 Posted October 9, 2007 Sorry, but I use "god" for everyone's god. Honestly, I find it a silly concept. The very logic used to create this god is the LAST logic anyone would use to pick stocks or things that matter on a day to day basis in this life. There are as many gods out there as there are people believing in them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonemouse 1 Posted October 9, 2007 Sorry, but I use "god" for everyone's god. Honestly, I find it a silly concept. The very logic used to create this god is the LAST logic anyone would use to pick stocks or things that matter on a day to day basis in this life.I generally do, too, but it just brings out the anal grammar bitch in me. All the gods are gods-with-lower-case-g, but God-with-a-capital-G is the common name for the Christian god, just as Allah is the common name of the Mulim god-with-a-lower-case-g. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonemouse 1 Posted October 9, 2007 Kinda like how "Dad" is a commonly used name for a specific person's father, but "dad" is another name for anyone's father. The capitalization makes the difference. "Did you do this, Dad?" versus "Did your dad do this?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonemouse 1 Posted October 9, 2007 BTW, Wheetsin, would you mind if I kinda stole your "token atheist" thingie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonemouse 1 Posted October 9, 2007 Think of it this way: Someone was named "Person" by their nutty parents. Now, every human in existance is a person, but only Person is Person. That make sense? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ELENATION 0 Posted October 9, 2007 Sorry, but it's worshipper, not workshiper. Had to get that out there. :eek: You're qualifying a group compared to my personal beliefs. By doing so, you eliminate consideration of individual differences. Through your definition, you've reduced them to nothing more individualized or specific than, generically, "those who believe." As an analogy, if you lump people from 15 countries into "people," they can be no more than "people" generic. I do not believe that "people" are without individual, etnic, cultural, etc. differences. And I do not that "believers" all believe the same thing. I need to use my spellcheck.... I'm at work, so that's why I misspelled worshipper with work.... see what I mean.....LOL! can't blame me for trying.... I see your point....but mostly I can appreciate what you said: "I do not believe that "people" are without individual, etnic, cultural, etc. differences. And I do not that "believers" all believe the same thing." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ELENATION 0 Posted October 9, 2007 Anyone else suddenly finding the word "god" to be incredibly weird? LOL!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites