Kat817 19 Posted September 23, 2007 The comparison of buying a car, and buying a gun---requiring licensing to do these things, is all fine and good, except, the person who buys the car is not the one who always drives the car, anymore than the person who buys the weapon is not the only one to use it often times. We have guns....we have antique guns, owned by my DH's great grandfathers, as well as my DH's hunting rifle--that yes he does hunt with, and we eat what he shoots. I also have a hand gun. I took gun safety classes with my gun--offered to me when we purchased it, free of charge. I went on to pay personally for a Concealed Carry Permit. I go with a cop friend every few months to the shooting range, and I keep my permits current. At this point in time, my ex husband is in prison, for several charges, ranging from armed robbery and shooting with the intent to kill, to attempted murder...mine. The day he is released (which I hope and pray daily never happens) I will utilize my legal right to carry my weapon with me at all times, and will avoid the places where I am legally not allowed to do so. When that happens it will be a me vs. him situation, and I realize that, and have taken steps to hopefully come out of the next meeting alive as well!!! Do I want the government telling me I have to sit back and wait for the steps of getting to a phone, calling 911, them arriving, and dealing with him---nope not a chance! I would be dead. I want the right to protect myself if need be. I have attempted to obtain it in a legal, and rightful manner. I know not everyone does, and there in lies the problem. But do I think anyone has any need to personally own automatic weapons---AK47's and the ilk---nope! No one has ever shown me a need for having one...I would not fight the outlaw of them. I wish I could live in the comfort green describes---maybe the day they bury him, I'll bury my gun. Kat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonemouse 1 Posted September 23, 2007 I don't know, I guess I have two different opinions on this topic. Ideally, I wouldn't be against a total ban on guns. The problem with that is that there are way too many guns out on the street at this point, and I don't think a total ban would work. My second opinion is that people should be allowed to own guns, but with severe restrictions. I don't think anyone with felony convictions, or certain misdemeanor convictions, or a history of mental illness should be allowed to own a gun. I think that everyone in a household where a gun is present should be forced to take at least a yearly safety course in order to be allowed to keep their gun. I don't think fully automatic weapons should be legal, with the exception of legitimate collectors and law enforcement personel. I also think that there should be a requirement to have guns kept in a locked gun safe or kept with a trigger guard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marnie723 0 Posted September 23, 2007 Wow Kat....you have a very interesting & scary history, I can't even imagine! One thing I did notice was that all the crimes committed by your ex-husband involved the use of a gun. I think that again speaks to the availability to them & hence the crimes committed by them. Since living here in Texas(which I love by the way, it's true about Southern hospitality) I still laugh everytime I walk into a Walmart or grocery store & see the sign telling people "guns aren't allowed" I almost feel like I need to get one if everyone else out there has one but that makes as much sense to me as giving everyone a Grenade because someone else might have one. I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marnie723 0 Posted September 23, 2007 oops...I hit reply before I was done.. In a Country where guns are banned/severly limited I don't feel the need to have a gun because I'm not worried that the other guy might have one. Here in the US there is sooooo many guns that you feel like the odd man out without one. Jack....I didn't think cars let alone drivers licenses were around when the constitution was written. ha ha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kat817 19 Posted September 23, 2007 Marnie, I totally agree, concerning his crimes and gun involvement---at the time I made that huge mistake in my life, I was totally unaware of his history of crime...he was already a felon at that time!!! It was a simple matter of an alias, and he bought weapons, he voted....he worked the system. He is now being supported by the poor state of Texas, where he was extridited to after he served a sentence in Oklahoma. Sure would like to know what happen to the 3 strikes law....he has struck many, many more times than 3!!!! While you laugh at the sign on Walmart's door---I kind of cringe when I think that they allow the clerks working there, with little training, to sell the guns! Many of them extremely young. Kat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wendell Edwards 73 Posted September 23, 2007 Hi, For me, gun ownership is a complex issue involving liberty and the right to self-defense. Personally, I choose to have the liberty to engage in self-defense against predatory criminals by owning a gun. Other people may choose to do as they wish. Oh, one more thing.... Expecting a criminal to obey gun-control laws, when the definition of a criminal is someone who breaks laws, is ludicrous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
green 6 Posted September 23, 2007 It sounds like America is a much more violent country than Canada is. It sounds like you have many more violent predators. I think I would want to own a gun, too, if I lived in the United States. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wendell Edwards 73 Posted September 23, 2007 It sounds like America is a much more violent country than Canada is. It sounds like you have many more violent predators. I think I would want to own a gun, too, if I lived in the United States. Oh, I don't know if the USA is more or less violent than Canada. I'd have to look up the statistics on violent crimes before I made any assumptions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerickM 1 Posted September 24, 2007 It sounds like America is a much more violent country than Canada is. It sounds like you have many more violent predators. I think I would want to own a gun, too, if I lived in the United States. A man I worked with was from Canada, grew up there spent most of his adult life in Quebec and British Columbia. I asked him once why there seemed to be less crime in Canada (from my American viewpoint) than the US. He told me that while down here cops have to worry about issues of race, politics and related crap. The police in Canada don't really have to worry all that much. If a 'gang' like the crips, bloods, mexican mafia, arayn nation, etc. were to try to be as violent and brazen as they are here in the US they would be smacked down hard by the authorities. Not so here in the US. Dunno if it is true or not as I have never lived in Canada but it seemed to make sense to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TommyO 5 Posted September 28, 2007 If the right to Bear arms means I can go sleevless then I'm all for it, If the right to Bear arms means a individual has the right to have the arms of a Bear transplanted on their body then although I would'nt do it myself I still think it should be a right of every citizen. Derrick in response to your earlier post, the bigger the gun the smaller the Gun, if you know what I mean. Cheers TommyO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
want_so_bad 0 Posted September 28, 2007 guns dont kill people. guns dont rob people. people do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marnie723 0 Posted September 28, 2007 guns dont kill people. guns dont rob people. people do. That is such a LAME LAME LAME arguement!!!!! What does that mean, the weapon itself isn't what shot a hole in someone? I guess it should be permitted to let people have every type of weapon they choose and just hope there aren't any accidents, or curious children, or temporarily angry moments that get out of hand, or hateful people and I guess the this whole war based on "weapons of mass destruction" really is even more absurd than people think since it turns out the weapons aren't what kill people anyway! ( or at least according to the theory above) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thinatlast 0 Posted September 28, 2007 Guns don't kill people, bullets do. So, as one clever person said, charge $5,000. a bullet. This will put an end to stray bullets killing people by mistake. At $5,000. a pop, you better be sure that you really want to fire that gun at something you really want to hit, no goofing around.:rolleyes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerickM 1 Posted September 28, 2007 Guns don't kill people, bullets do. So, as one clever person said, charge $5,000. a bullet. This will put an end to stray bullets killing people by mistake. At $5,000. a pop, you better be sure that you really want to fire that gun at something you really want to hit, no goofing around.:rolleyes Chris Rock, one of his HBO specials I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
green 6 Posted September 30, 2007 Charging 5Gs per bullet isn't a bad idea..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites