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I wish I had access to Dr Davis. As a long term vegan headed into sleeve surgery at the end of the month I feel like I'm getting very little guidance from my dr team about food post surgery. They are ok with me staying vegan but basically are giving me the regular diet plan and telling me to figure out how to veganize it. I hope I can figure it out.

You may want to get Dr. Wiener's book a pound of cure. it is available on Amazon. his plan could work for you. as others have said he has a ton of youtube videos as well.

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Hi Mian , do you know if GENEPRO mixes well with hot coffee. Everything curdles on me.

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I'm not Mian, LOL but the key to mixing any Protein powder with hot liquids is to mix it with a little bit of warm Water or milk until it dissolves and then mix that into the hot liquid.

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Hi Mian , do you know if GENEPRO mixes well with hot coffee. Everything curdles on me.

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I'm not Mian, LOL but the key to mixing any Protein powder with hot liquids is to mix it with a little bit of warm Water or milk until it dissolves and then mix that into the hot liquid.< /div>

I've used GENEPRO. I followed the directions. There is a difference between how you add it in depending on whether it's hot or cold. Sometimes I'd put it in the nutribullet to blend well. Just make sure if it's a hot liquid to allow enough space to allow for the heat.

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My NUT and surgeon say dont count calories, 60-90g Protein, 64oz liquids, less than 15g sugar, eat Protein first then a produce and if any space left a little carbs but not until I am cleared for all foods and only 3 meals a day.

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I wish I had access to Dr Davis. As a long term vegan headed into sleeve surgery at the end of the month I feel like I'm getting very little guidance from my dr team about food post surgery. They are ok with me staying vegan but basically are giving me the regular diet plan and telling me to figure out how to veganize it. I hope I can figure it out.

Go to www.thedavisclinic.com (the website for the clinic he partners at with his father and my doctor, Dr. Primomo). There is a link on there somewhere that takes you to his FB page, I think if you click on him and click on his Blog, it goes to his FB page. I'm not really for sure if you can message him, I haven't tried, but I can tell you that he himself, my doctor, and the nurse practitioner there do lots of research before recommending a diet, and they are very selective of information the choose to pass on, but they are firm believers in the Forks Over Knives program. If you have Netflix, you can watch the documentary on it, they have 4 books they have put out, I have 3, and they also have an app for your phone that is $4.99 and has several recipes and they update regularly with more recipes. Dr. Garth thinks highly of them. You may also try to call the clinic at the number on the website and see if you can get an email for Dr. Garth. I was told he gives out recipes. I hope this information helps you!!

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On 12/10/2016 at 9:04 PM, vegbeth said:

I wish I had access to Dr Davis. As a long term vegan headed into sleeve surgery at the end of the month I feel like I'm getting very little guidance from my dr team about food post surgery. They are ok with me staying vegan but basically are giving me the regular diet plan and telling me to figure out how to veganize it. I hope I can figure it out.

As a long-time vegan myself, I was wondering if you would mind sharing how you are doing now? I'm pre-op and just trying to get as much figured out about post-op nutrition headed into my surgery, so I can be prepared.

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To answer your question, the plan my doc uses is basically high Protein, then veg, good fats, stay away from most carbs (grains breads rice etc).

Going mostly veg protein means considerably more carbs than recommended for people that have the metabolic issues people getting surgery have. Also ONLY animal Proteins have all 23 amino acids that our bodies require. Plus veg protein requires combining two diff types together to try to get a complete protein so your body can use it properly.

Does he push supplements?

Your doc is your doc and your decision, and if the weight loss works and if you can sustain it I wish you all the best. Keep us posted.

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48 minutes ago, Sosewsue61 said:

Also ONLY animal Proteins have all 23 amino acids that our bodies require.

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Plus veg Protein requires combining two diff types together to try to get a complete protein so your body can use it properly.

These are misconceptions based off of outdated information.

https://nutritionfacts.org/video/the-protein-combining-myth/

http://www.pcrm.org/health/reports/five-protein-myths

https://www.forksoverknives.com/the-myth-of-complementary-protein/

For further reading on the subject:
Proteinaholic by Dr. Garth Davis (a bariatric surgeon based in Houston, TX)
A Pound of Cure by Dr. Matthew Weiner (a bariatric surgeon based in Michigan)
The China Study by Dr. T. Colin Campbell
Super Immunity by Dr. Joel Fuhrman
Prevent & Reverse Heart Disease by Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn
The McDougall Program by Dr. John McDougall

These physicians/surgeons have conducted decades of research on the effects of a plant-based diet, backed up by real world results. If you have an open mind and are curious about how nutrition plays a role in your overall health (not just your weight or waistline), I would highly recommend any of the books listed above.

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Yeah, sure you can find claims and research to substantiate almost anything. I have read some of it, I have read counter research.

But let's examine Fuhrman's statements in one instance:

Which foods raise IGF-1?

Since the primary dietary factor that determines IGF-1 levels is animal Protein, the excessive meat, fowl, seafood, and dairy intake common in our society elevates circulating IGF-1. It is the amino acid distribution of animal protein that sparks IGF-1 production.16 For this reason, isolated soy protein, found in protein powders and meat substitutes, may also be problematic because the protein is unnaturally concentrated and its amino acid profile is very similar to that of animal protein.

Refined carbohydrates, like white flour, white rice, and sugars can also raise IGF-1 levels, because they cause rapid increases in insulin levels, leading to increases in IGF-1 signaling. In fact, IGF-1 signaling is thought to be a major factor in the connectionbetween diabetes and cancer.14,15

It seems to be saying refined carbs do the same thing and so it's hardly causation entirely.

To each his own....not on here to debate everything.

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And just for the heck of it.

https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/the-china-study-myth/

I have followed Weston Price for a long time.

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I absolutely agree that whatever you eat should be real food.........I think it's important to remain open minded and keep our health in the forefront of our endeavors.......being thin will be the result of eating correctly, mindfully, healthfully and thoughtfully. There are many ways to get to our goal and it's very easy to become obsessive about our journey. I really think the doctor's point is not to obsess but to eat the things that nourish and fuel our bodies. While the approach Casds84's doctor takes seems unconventional compared to what many of us have experienced it could very well prove to be the answer for many patients. We are all different, our bodies are different and our journeys are different. If health and happiness are the end result then we all win [emoji177]


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