Casds84 10 Posted December 10, 2016 I had the Sleeve surgery on 11/23/16. As of now, I'm still on purée foods. On January 4, I will advance to a regular diet. Now, before I say this, I want to be clear that I am going to follow the doctor's food plan. All three doctors at the office have told me the same thing, so it must be a plan that works. With all that said, I am curious how many of your doctors' have told y'all not to count Protein or calories or worry about numbers? My doctors all said to focus on Beans, fruits, and veggies....or as they also said, Fiber FIBER FIBER (lol). I'm still allowed to eat meats, as long as long as beans, fruits, and veggies take up the majority of the meal/day. Also, I can still have rice, Pasta, bread, and tortillas (all whole grain, with the exception of corn tortillas occasionally). They recommend the program (which has 3 books, 1 being a cookbook) called Forks Over Knives, which is a plant-based meal program. Some of the recipes look awesome, but from what I've skimmed through and seen, it is vegetarian. I don't have to go by the book totally. But they said absolutely no counting because it is not necessary and they don't want this to feel like a diet because looking at it as a diet can cause failure, so not to stress it. What plans do you follow? Is anyone's similar to what I will be following? Sent from my iPad using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Armygalbonnie 643 Posted December 10, 2016 Well, that diet is completely different and contradictory to 99% of the programs I've seen on this site. But....... I'm not your Dr. and that's not my call. Carbs are not my friend and I would never be able to lose weight on that diet. I truly hope it works for you and I wish you the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mskitty66 8 Posted December 10, 2016 I know on the puree phase I only at Protein cottage cheese, eggs, yogurt, cream chicken Soup with Protein powder and shakes. If your going to eat Beans no pinto Beans they have alot of sugar. Sent from my LG-K330 using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casds84 10 Posted December 10, 2016 Thanks. I always heard the Protein was a big deal. But when all of them said counting Protein was unnecessary and "malarkey" (their word lol), I was shocked. Other people were shocked when I told them my program. They said any fruit I want, any bean I want, but black Beans were best, and they didn't get into vegetables much, but I'm going to assume potatoes are a no, as I can't have white bread or wheat/whole wheat bread. Luckily, I'm not much of a bread eater, and Pasta is only on occasion. I assumed it was contradicting to several programs, which is why I had questions. But apparently from what I gather, he (the main doctor) has had lots of success with the program (he's vegetarian himself, but I'm still going to enjoy fish/seafood and a few other lean meats). I hope I do get good results. I mean, it will be nice to not have to count, but I had literally tons of low carb recipes saved up because that was my plan. Now I have to put time into researching this one. I just basically want to see if anyone else had heard of something similar to this. I did, however, get GENEPRO to add to fruit/veggie smoothies to cover my bases! Sent from my iPad using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blizair09 3,250 Posted December 10, 2016 That is very different from my plan and most of the plans that have been discussed on here. What is their rationale for Pasta and rice? Those are "avoid forever" foods on my plan. Of course, you should follow the plan of your surgeon. But when they tell you not to count Protein, that raises a major red flag for me! 1 ProudGrammy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky2Lose 184 Posted December 10, 2016 My Dr plan is for the 1st 3 months to supplement 60-90g of Protein via bariatric shakes, concentrates and Soups, etc. for 2 of those months our meals are no more than 1-3 ounces Proteins..no more than 30 carbs, 2-6 months we are allowed 2-4 oz of Protein and 2-4 vegetables or fruit..after 6 months we can add back grains if we want to. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vinasu 621 Posted December 10, 2016 Well, my plan, and most, require strictly tracking Protein and calories. I believe this has made me successful. I can eat virtually anything I want now. If I weren't strictly counting calories, I absolutely would be overeating again. Tracking makes me accountable. Sent from my SM-G925V using the BariatricPal App 1 ProudGrammy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casds84 10 Posted December 10, 2016 I admit I was shocked, but whole grain is okay in moderation by their program because whole grains are healthy. But I swear, exact words "we know you've probably been told that you need 60g of Protein, but let us be the first to tell you that is malarkey. you have no reason to diet or count. your focus is to be healthy and lose weight. other programs do that; ours doesn't." Those words are basically burned into my brain lol. Sent from my iPad using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casds84 10 Posted December 10, 2016 I think that is why they were so adamant on emphasizing that fruits, veggies, and Beans be like 90% of the diet. I know I heard those three words over 50 times each. Sent from my iPad using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky2Lose 184 Posted December 10, 2016 I admit I was shocked, but whole grain is okay in moderation by their program because whole grains are healthy. But I swear, exact words "we know you've probably been told that you need 60g of Protein, but let us be the first to tell you that is malarkey. you have no reason to diet or count. your focus is to be healthy and lose weight. other programs do that; ours doesn't." Those words are basically burned into my brain lol. Sent from my iPad using the BariatricPal App My surgical team stresses 60-90g of additional supplemental Protein at minimum..they say it's better to have 1/2 your weight in protein is better for the first 3 months. They say it not only helps you not have hunger but that it helps you lose fat and maintain muscle. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casds84 10 Posted December 10, 2016 I can still have eggs and cheese, Nonfat Greek yogurt, and FairLife milk. I asked about those. And I got GENEPRO to add to smoothies or other foods. I'm still going to cover my tush to at least get Protein. I'm just basically saying I was stressed not to count nutritional numbers. I wanted to see if my program was similar to everyone else's. Regardless, I have to follow their plan, he's my only choice of doctor and I have to drive nearly 6 hours to see him lol. But they have been doing this program many years, so I just hope it works. Something must be right if they are still in business and have nearly a 5 star rating. I was just a bit shocked is all. Still a bit lost as to exactly where to start on the bean portion. I've never been much of a bean eater lol. Guess I will learn. I have Beano on hand at least lol! Sent from my iPad using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casds84 10 Posted December 10, 2016 I do know there are many vegetarian bariatric people out there because I've read many articles, but it is a difficult way to get Protein. But they said I didn't have to become full vegetarian, just to make sure my "stars" on the plate was veggies, fruits, and Beans. Sent from my iPad using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCurvyJones 721 Posted December 10, 2016 Red flags all over the place. Most of us can't consume veggies early out-- the Fiber is a lot for a new sleeve. Fruits are too high in sugar to ingest a lot. And not counting Protein? HUH? I'm absolutely questioning this plan and this is one time where I would kick that doc's plan to the curb. Pasta? Rice? What in the ENTIRE F? My surgeon doesn't stress counting calories. Protein and carbs are my main focus. 1 Sosewsue61 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BooBee66 104 Posted December 10, 2016 I was sleeved 8_26 my Dr. Said eat my Proteins first then begs and fruits Sent from my Z832 using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MFM008 44 Posted December 10, 2016 I should go regular diet monday...doesn't mean much because I can't eat most foods still after 6 weeks. Sent from my SGH-M919 using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites