Alcohol

[RJrocks 69]

Thank you for the article. It IS a thing, wow. I am still pre-op about 4 months out so I am still learning all about it.

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[OKCPirate 5,323]

@@RJrocks Hmmm. there must be actual science but not sure of where to point you to reference info. My dr. said it, people here say it, etc. There is a window of time that is called the Honeymoon period where, no matter what you do, you seem to lose weight. You just have to make sure to keep following the program because you need to create good habits that will carry you through when the magic stops. And it stops. Not necessarily completely but, yes, the old struggle appears. The hunger hormone seems to get reactivated and, as my doctor says, it can be a real beast! Especially because we aren't all expecting it. But it does come back Big time!

Yes, there is actually some science behind the statement: but be careful, WLS is a tool, not a magic wand. It is possible to have WLS and not get any results because of the food choices people make.

http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/082508p56.shtml

http://www.medpagetoday.com/endocrinology/obesity/43097

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/578906_2

On the other hand one study showed that following RYGB, ghrelin levels fell during the first postoperative day, increased after 1month to preoperative levels and rose further at 6 and 12months. This transient suppression of ghrelin could possibly be due to vagal dysfunction and subsequently with weight loss ghrelin secretion increases to higher than preoperative levels.^[28] A study on ghrelin concentration in obese patients prior to and 5days and 2months following BPD demonstrated that unlike after dieting or RYGB, only an initial reduction in ghrelin concentration was observed. However 2months following BPD, when food intake had nearly completely resumed the values returned to the preoperative levels.^[29] This is consistent with the hypothesis that ghrelin production from the stomach is greatly influenced by the direct contact of ingested food with the gastric cells. This finding is, however, conflicting with evidence showing that small intestinal nutrient exposure is sufficient for food-induced plasma ghrelin suppression in humans and that gastric nutrient exposure is not necessary for its suppression.^[30] Given the current data it is difficult to fully understand the mechanism involved in the release of ghrelin after bariatric surgery. The degree of hyperinsulinaemia is a known major determinant of ghrelin suppression amongst obese subjects.^[31,32]Changes in ghrelin release following surgical weight loss might depend on the degree of preoperative insulin resistance and the degree to which insulin sensitivity is restored. The degree of vagal dysfunction following the surgical procedures may also contribute to the changes in the observed ghrelin levels.

[Sara1981050 25]

Im been drinking alcohol for years and im chosen stop alcohol because of my health reasons..

I had history of my seizure at 12 years old and i had kidney stones in 2011 my doctor advise me not drink alcohol anymores..

Before my surgery my decision hold of alcohol they wont risk of weight up and down per doctor's order because i had rollercoaster my weight since i was in high school..

I have agreed with Amandy31's posts and stay away from alcohol

My mom's family don't drink alcohol because of religion i respect that i follow that..

[LisaMergs 2,854]

I drink.

Vodka and soda, splash of diet cranberry

May have two or three tonight as my Cubs go to take the World Series.

Hell. I may have 3-4 if they win.

Alcohol causes a quick buzz, and it's gone within 20 min.

No other effects. I'm 7 mos post op.

Had my first drink around 5.5-6 mos. one a week maybe?

During this WS ru. Being out, have had several others a week lol

No beer, only vodka.

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[QueenOfTheTamazons 634]

I was a cheap date (half a cocktail could get me buzzed) prior to surgery, so I am choosing to abstain. I dont want to have a couple of sips and start stripping. Lol

HW 385 SW 359 CW 340 Sleeved 10/5/16

[PLEZ 76]

I run a,very prominent residential treatment center. I see many patients become compulsive with alcohol after surgery...seems to be common. pork chop express comment above is spot on.

[shedo82773 1,236]

My drink of choice before....notice I said before my RNY was COORS LIGHT BEER!! Oh course I can't or won't have it now because of the carbonation. But...with that being said I am 3 years out and I just had some strawberry WINE in Sept. Now I don't drink much at all. It is very true that it hits you fast and seems to leave pretty darn fast also. I am very guarded about drinking to much because I have always had a addictive personality and with most things in my life I hbave been BALLS O THE WALL or NOTHING!!! I realize how I am so I choose not to drink often. That is just me. I would hate to trade one addiction for another. Now I am a clothes fiend now. I love to shop for stuff and if I can buy it on line the better!! LOL

[SilentBotts 138]

Had my first drink at about 7 months out, just a small glass of scotch. It hit me quick, one drink pre-op would not have made me close to this buzzed and sleepy.

As with any off plan food like certain Snacks or carbs, I would stay away if you think it's going to be habit forming. We don't want to deprive ourselves, but the point of the surgery is to be a tool to help us build good behaviors and a better relationship with food.< /p>

[FrankyG 1,450]

I've had a few drinks off and on after surgery (none before the 1 year mark tho). I was never a big drinker anyway, and mostly I don't care to waste the calories on it. Occasional glass of Maker's Mark and Cherry Coke Zero or half a glass of wine but that's every 2-3 months at the most.

I do keep some wine around because I make a killer shrimp scampi and it requires some white wine.

Edited November 4, 2016 by FrankiesGirl

[eaxelrod1 3]

Please be careful!!! I fell victim to the alcoholism I was in a dark place that was my outlet and something I could consume a lot of...I don't eat much but gained a bunch of weight back and I know it's from alcohol:(... I'm finally ready to give in and take control back of MY body!

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[rolosmom7 740]

I've had a few drinks off and on after surgery (none before the 1 year mark tho). I was never a big drinker anyway, and mostly I don't care to waste the calories on it. Occasional glass of Maker's Mark and Cherry Coke Zero or half a glass of wine but that's every 2-3 months at the most.

I do keep some wine around because I make a killer shrimp scampi and it requires some white wine.

Oh I also keep wine for cooking. I don't think that counts ????

[Micoxv 276]

I am 7 months out and I can drink a couple of beers or a few glasses of wine on the occasion. I am not even close to what I used to drink before. I did not have an alcohol addiction, but could handle pretty well ( since the weight helps a lot).
I can stay without alcohol but I enjoy a drink from time to time.
Something funny I noticed is that I am not getting drunk anymore.
When I have too much, I basically fall asleep and I wake up without a hangover, which is a huge benefit. So for me, the sleeve even works there.

And I still track the carbs of what I drink / eat. So if I had too much, on the next day a 5k is mandatory, no matter what.

Mico.

[summerset 5,265]

How does alcohol affect you? My NUT says that about 10 percent of patients become alcoholics after and I find this scary.

Well, you don't become an alcoholic out of nowhere or something just because you drink a bit of alcohol now and then. The problem is swapping one addiction for another.

As for my personal experience I was a bit surprised that I barely didn't notice a difference when I drank my first glass of wine. I don't know what I expected, maybe being drunk after two sips or something. I was always that person who got drowsy after one glass of wine though and that didn't change.

In general I never drank much alcohol and I don't have the desire to do so now, so I'm not overly concerned about alcohol.

[summerset 5,265]

OK, I keep hearing this. References to there being a window of opportunity for weight loss following surgery.

Is there actually science to back this up? Or is this almost a perception as the most pounds always go first and then the struggle for the last X pounds begins.

According to my NUT (I asked her about that "window" because patients - including myself - are driving themselves crazy about it) it's a myth but I think in the end it all boils down to what you want to believe.

There is no magical "window of opportunity" and then you're doomed or something. Think about people who continue to lose weight over a time period of several years or women who lost the baby weight after getting pregnant several years after surgery.

Of course quick weight loss is exhilarating. It always is.

Edited November 4, 2016 by summerset

[summerset 5,265]

@@RJrocks There is a window of time that is called the Honeymoon period where, no matter what you do, you seem to lose weight.

Ah yes, but that doesn't mean that you're doomed if you haven't lost 80% or something like that of your EW in that period. You will continue to burn fat as long as you are in a calorie deficit.