I want to get the Sleeve but surgeon is pushing Roux En Y

[shelbys mom 70]

I finished my Kaiser Permanente options classes, did all the lab and x-rays. I went to meet my surgeon on Thursday and he is pushing for roux en y because I have GERD. Anyone else have this happen to them? I didn't realize acid reflex was a big issue for getting the sleeve. any input would be greatly appreciated.

I was told by my surgeon that you are more likely to have issues with gerd,after the sleeve. He said," 1/3 of sleeve patients will experience gerd after the sleeve, but what he is seeing now, 3 to 4 years after a sleeve surgery, many people experience horrendous gerd and are getting revision to Rny. Hope that sheds some light on the subject for you.

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[shelbys mom 70]

The very same thing happened to me. I went to meet with my surgeon for a consultation last month to talk about the sleeve . He asked me a lot of questions and one of the questions he asked me if I am having any acid reflux or heartburn ? I said yes once or twice a week . He said if I'm having Gerd I shouldn't have the sleeve because one of the side effects after having the sleeve is Gerd. The bypass is a better choice for people who have Gerd . So he said before we decided on what surgery is best for me , he wants me to have a 24hr PH test . I am scheduled to be tested in a couple of weeks. I don't want the gastric bypass surgery. So I decided to get a second opinion.

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My surgeon said the same thing. Keep in mind that many sleeve patients end up having a revision to Rny some years out because of the gerd. Im not willing to take that chance. Rny for me. Good luck

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[fd319 86]

My acid reflux was super mild before surgery, maybe once or twice a month. Let me tell you it's been an every day occurrence now. I didn't even know it would be an issue until now. My doctor never recommended the bypass instead. I don't regret my decision at all, but it is super annoying to feel crappy right now.

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[hectorlopez323 60]

If given the option would you have gone with the rny or would you have done it the same?

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[momto3E 14]

Hector- why are you against rny?

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[hectorlopez323 60]

I'm worried about the malobsortion of Vitamin and minerals. Also a bit concerned about it taking longer than the sleeve. I've read that if your bmi is greater than 50 sleeve is safer. I'm at 57 bmi. Surgeon reassured me but the concern lingers

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[Havasumoma 250]

I sympathize with your concerns Hector. I will struggle if RNY is recommended. Did you have a endoscopy?

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[RonnieRab 31]

I was planning on the bypass also. Then when I had my EDG, he found that the part of my stomach that would end up "blind" with that surgery, was full of polyps. I also have a large hiatal hernia and have been treated for heartburn/GERD that may be caused by the hernia. He suggested I get the sleeve because of the polyps. I had never really considered the sleeve, so I started researching it and have decided that I would rather have the sleeve than the bypass. I got my approval letter on Friday afternoon (after the office closed, of course!) and found that I had been approved for the bypass. So, now they will have to resubmit me for the sleeve, I guess. Hopefully it will all work out because I was approved very quickly for the bypass. I will also have the hernia repaired with the surgery. I'm hoping the heartburn goes away with the hernia, but it's totally under control with 20mg a day of nexium. Have you read any books about the surgeries?

No actual books. Countless articles and took a 12 week course, every Friday for an hour and a half. I was pretty set on sleeve but this surgeon, as he was examining my meeical record he looks at me and says "oh yeah, we're doing the roux en y".. "we'll go over it in a bit". He seems to insist the rny will cure my GERD and the sleeve will make it worse. I ended up reluctantly agreeing to the rny so he put "roux en y possible sleeve gastrectomy" on the concent form we submitted. He did say that if I insist on sleeve that he will order a GI x-ray to look for a hernia. Said he didn't want to do the sleeve cause he'll just have to go back in and do the rny when the acid gets worse.

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I think you should insist on the test before going into surgery.

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[sb90 20]

I wanted the roux en y and my Kaiser surgeon said no that I didn't need it ☹️ that I was fine with sleeve. And also both my mother and mother in law has sleeves and both delveloped Gerd after

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[nikko9599 28]

I finished my Kaiser Permanente options classes, did all the lab and x-rays. I went to meet my surgeon on Thursday and he is pushing for roux en y because I have GERD. Anyone else have this happen to them? I didn't realize acid reflex was a big issue for getting the sleeve. any input would be greatly appreciated.

I wanted the sleeve but because of my acid reflux I can't. My Dr told me about 90% of people lose their acid reflux after bypass. I've been seeing people on the sleeve still have to take anti acid meds.

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[breuxo 78]

i didn't read it all but wanted to say i don't get how you think RNY is more invasive then sleeve, sleeve they remove your stomach never get it back. RNY nothing is removed if they had to. RNY can be undone.

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[nikko9599 28]

i didn't read it all but wanted to say i don't get how you think RNY is more invasive then sleeve, sleeve they remove your stomach never get it back. RNY nothing is removed if they had to. RNY can be undone.

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I think the same thing. I think it's moving the intestine that bothers me.

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i didn't read it all but wanted to say i don't get how you think RNY is more invasive then sleeve, sleeve they remove your stomach never get it back. RNY nothing is removed if they had to. RNY can be undone.

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I think the same thing. I think it's moving the intestine that bothers me.

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[fliss78 16]

If you have Gerd in any capacity Roux En Y is the way to go. VSG is proven to worsen GERD!

Also I noted that you have diabetes in your discussion. Roux En Y would almost eliminate it. Due to the re-route of the intestines.

Trust your surgeon -

You would hate to get VSG only for your GERD to be exacerbated and have to revise to Roux En Y-

Hence increasing your risk for PE.

Good luck!

[hectorlopez323 60]

I sympathize with your concerns Hector. I will struggle if RNY is recommended. Did you have a endoscopy?

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Nope, he said if I insist on the not recommended procedure the sleeve, I will have to get a GI xray and he'll probably have to operate a hernia. It was a lot of information but that's what I understood. I can't risk having the acid get worse I'm accepting the rny option. Just sucks cause I was pumped about the sleeve since 2014. I gotta do what's in my best interest

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[Havasumoma 250]

I sympathize with your concerns Hector. I will struggle if RNY is recommended. Did you have a endoscopy?

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Nope, he said if I insist on the not recommended procedure the sleeve, I will have to get a GI xray and he'll probably have to operate a hernia. It was a lot of information but that's what I understood. I can't risk having the acid get worse I'm accepting the rny option. Just sucks cause I was pumped about the sleeve since 2014. I gotta do what's in my best interest

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I'm having the test next week.

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