hectorlopez323 60 Posted October 10, 2016 Boom knowledge bomb dropped. That's where my 2 years of sleeve sleeve sleeve got turned upside down. I went to this particular kaiser 75 some miles away cause everyone says they're the best and he tells me roux en y. My only hesitation now is my very strong wife who wants me to get the sleeve cause she thinks my skin will be sag more with rny and I won't be able to eat the 4 Oz with her that I could with sleeve. After reading comments from over 10 or so people on here I am feeling comfortable about the rny. I can't wait for me to get the call for the surgery date and I can join many of the great people on here in sharing my story and uploading some pictues. Sent from my SM-G900T using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stacyrg2 350 Posted October 10, 2016 As someone who has had both VSG and RNY, I can tell you from my experience, your capacity will be about the same with either surgery. Prior to my revision, I could eat about 4-4.5 oz of dense Protein (I was 2 years post surgery). I'm now 3 months post conversion to RNY and I can eat between 2.5 and 3 oz of dense Protein. You should not base your decision on what your capacity is or how much loose skin you may end up with (and there shouldn't be that much difference in the skin dept. between the two surgeries. You may lose slightly faster with RNY, but at the two year mark, the loss is comparable. If you're going to have loose skin, you're going to have loose skin.) As someone who dealt with severe GERD/Reflux after my VSG (but not before) I would NEVER pick VSG if I had a history of heartburn, GERD, reflux or whatever you want to call it. I spent a year of my life, coughing up acid, sleeping sitting up, restricting certain foods and generally being miserable. So, knowing now what I know, if I were in your shoes, I would select RNY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hectorlopez323 60 Posted October 10, 2016 Thank you. Your feedback is greatly appreciated. I've had GERD for 5 years and if I don't take my two daily pills. A bowl of chex and almost milk will give me acid. Thank you Stacy, I really found your insight very very useful Sent from my SM-G900T using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utleyshair 4 Posted October 10, 2016 What I don't understand is WHY my doctor never mentioned this when I have a history of acid reflux- although it was completely controlled on Prilosec. I'm suffering unmercifully now with heartburn and I get no control or relief. Brings me to tears every day and I'm only 5 weeks post? He tells me the surgery-one or the other- makes no difference? I had a few complications and a hernia repair too- and I will never do another surgery. Am I going to never find relief? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hectorlopez323 60 Posted October 10, 2016 What I don't understand is WHY my doctor never mentioned this when I have a history of acid reflux- although it was completely controlled on Prilosec. I'm suffering unmercifully now with heartburn and I get no control or relief. Brings me to tears every day and I'm only 5 weeks post? He tells me the surgery-one or the other- makes no difference? I had a few complications and a hernia repair too- and I will never do another surgery. Am I going to never find relief? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Omg that sounds horrible. My surgeon said if he does the sleeve on me he will have to eventually go back in and do the rny because he was pretty sure I would be suffering horribly. You should keep bugging your doctor about how bad you feel as my old boss use to say " the squeaky wheel gets the oil " Sent from my SM-G900T using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utleyshair 4 Posted October 10, 2016 I just wish I would have heard this before. I asked him and he told me that either surgery aggravates the GURD.... but this is way more then aggravation:-( Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butterflywarrior 241 Posted October 10, 2016 Oh Interesting, I misunderstood the pyloric valve operation or the survival nurse have us incorrect info grrrr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stacyrg2 350 Posted October 10, 2016 What I don't understand is WHY my doctor never mentioned this when I have a history of acid reflux- although it was completely controlled on Prilosec. I'm suffering unmercifully now with heartburn and I get no control or relief. Brings me to tears every day and I'm only 5 weeks post? He tells me the surgery-one or the other- makes no difference? I had a few complications and a hernia repair too- and I will never do another surgery. Am I going to never find relief? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App I'm sorry that your Dr. never told you that VSG may make reflux/GERD worse. Before my surgery, my surgeon questioned me extensively about whether I suffered from GERD. If I had, he likely would not have approved me for a sleeve. I can't say if your reflux will get better with time. I can only tell you that mine did not. It began 8 months after my initial surgery and I revised at the 2 year 2 month mark. In between I tried every medication combination possible, omeprazole, protonix, dexilant, zantac. Nothing worked Revision to RNY was the only thing that cured my GERD. I'm 3 months post revision and haven't had any problems with acid since I woke up from surgery. In my opinion, your surgeon was incorrect. VSG has a history of making reflux/GERD worse, however, since you've had surgery, that point is irrelevant now. I wish you luck and hope you find some relief. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stacyrg2 350 Posted October 10, 2016 I just wish I would have heard this before. I asked him and he told me that either surgery aggravates the GURD.... but this is way more then aggravation:-( Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App In my opinion this is not true. RNY is used to relieve, if not flat out stop reflux/GERD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs Elliott8791 28 Posted October 10, 2016 Omeprazole works wonders I am 5 years post on and had issues with heartburn and it worked great!!! Sent from my HTCD100LVWPP using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utleyshair 4 Posted October 10, 2016 I take omeprazole and a pepsid daily- I'm only 5 weeks. I'm told to give it time. I had no delay in the heartburn it started as soon as I woke from surgery! I'm also told I'm still healing and I may still be highly sensitive. Pre surgery omeprazole completely relieved all my symptoms so I'm hoping. This experience has been terrible and another surgery is not an option- at least as I feel now:-( Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stacyrg2 350 Posted October 11, 2016 I take omeprazole and a pepsid daily- I'm only 5 weeks. I'm told to give it time. I had no delay in the heartburn it started as soon as I woke from surgery! I'm also told I'm still healing and I may still be highly sensitive. Pre surgery omeprazole completely relieved all my symptoms so I'm hoping. This experience has been terrible and another surgery is not an option- at least as I feel now:-( Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App omeprazole did absolutely nothing for me. You might see if your doctor can give you one of the other PPIs (protonix or dexilant) and see if you get more relief. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utleyshair 4 Posted October 11, 2016 I'm seeing a GI specialist... think it's time for a top GI doctor Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites