Post op regrets topics - not popular

[laceemouse 631]

to anyone else who is pre op and scared by this story (as i originally was), allow me to help you be more informed than the OP was

http://bfy.tw/7TUV

Excellent!

[GSleeve822 394]

@@GinaCampbell

Here are some direct quotes from you::

"I have not had a long term weight issue, or food issue etc. I was not desperate nor incapable of losing weight either."

"I wasn't obese because I ate what I wanted, I became obese following a period of a five year illness which left me bedbound."

and this one...

"My daughter thinks that I have not given conventional dieting enough of a chance. She feels that I could lose weight normally if I tried harder. I explained that I am addicted to food, cannot stop overeating and that my disability prevents me from exercising. I now am 95% bedbound."

If you can't see the obvious contradiction in your own words then you are too far in denial to get yourself any help. You cannot have a different and unreasonable fabrication for every problem. Instead of rudely making one excuse after another to people trying to help maybe you should face up to reality.

Ridiculous. My child's OPINION on my situation pre op, does not make it fact!

Nor does it change this actual topic.

You can't "help" me like a sleeve.

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In your post, you said you have a food addiction... you said it yourself. That's what she's referring to, not what your daughter said!

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[GSleeve822 394]

I know what you are saying. After so many years in the program, meeting all the requirements etc. I do see a "just give me a date" mentality. I was told by experts "this is your only option" so why would I question it. My CBT counsellor through pain mgt hinted that this was a bad idea because he felt CBT could "cure" fibro and CFS therefore my mobility would return and the weight would go back off naturally.

My bariatric team are not supporting me now. I have met all the weight loss goals so am ahead to them. I will have a colonoscopy in a few weeks and my surgeon will tell me what's next for the colitis.

A triage nurse is contacting a microbiologist now and will inform me if how the GP wants to proceed.

The sleeve is now way down the list with all my healthcare providers.

I assume that the team will want to see me at the six month mark but who knows.

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If your therapist thought cognitive behavioral therapy could "cure" fibromyalgia then it's because they thought it was in your head. There's no therapist that thinks doing CBT will cure a physical problem.

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[GinaCampbell 434]

I know what you are saying. After so many years in the program, meeting all the requirements etc. I do see a "just give me a date" mentality. I was told by experts "this is your only option" so why would I question it. My CBT counsellor through pain mgt hinted that this was a bad idea because he felt CBT could "cure" fibro and CFS therefore my mobility would return and the weight would go back off naturally.

My bariatric team are not supporting me now. I have met all the weight loss goals so am ahead to them. I will have a colonoscopy in a few weeks and my surgeon will tell me what's next for the colitis.

A triage nurse is contacting a microbiologist now and will inform me if how the GP wants to proceed.

The sleeve is now way down the list with all my healthcare providers.

I assume that the team will want to see me at the six month mark but who knows.

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If your therapist thought cognitive behavioral therapy could "cure" fibromyalgia then it's because they thought it was in your head. There's no therapist that thinks doing CBT will cure a physical problem.

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My CBT believes that ANYONE can be cured of chronic illness through subconscious and conscious behavioural therapy.

So now you purport to know what my NHS CBT therapist thinks.

Hilarious!

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[GinaCampbell 434]

@@GinaCampbell

Here are some direct quotes from you::

"I have not had a long term weight issue, or food issue etc. I was not desperate nor incapable of losing weight either."

"I wasn't obese because I ate what I wanted, I became obese following a period of a five year illness which left me bedbound."

and this one...

"My daughter thinks that I have not given conventional dieting enough of a chance. She feels that I could lose weight normally if I tried harder. I explained that I am addicted to food, cannot stop overeating and that my disability prevents me from exercising. I now am 95% bedbound."

If you can't see the obvious contradiction in your own words then you are too far in denial to get yourself any help. You cannot have a different and unreasonable fabrication for every problem. Instead of rudely making one excuse after another to people trying to help maybe you should face up to reality.

Ridiculous. My child's OPINION on my situation pre op, does not make it fact!

Nor does it change this actual topic.

You can't "help" me like a sleeve.

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In your post, you said you have a food addiction... you said it yourself. That's what she's referring to, not what your daughter said!

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I did briefly discuss food addiction. I presented to be assessed. No food addiction. Turns out most humans have the desire to eat food. Go figure?

I felt that I was overeating because I gained weight. A two year nutrition assessment showed that my diet tended toward no cook carbs (sandwiches etc) due to my disability. I have been bedbound and housebound for several protracted periods in the past five years. Resulting in weight gain.

Thank you for your indepth interest in my personal story. Each post raises more awareness of my story.

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[GinaCampbell 434]

@@GinaCampbell

Here are some direct quotes from you::

"I have not had a long term weight issue, or food issue etc. I was not desperate nor incapable of losing weight either."

"I wasn't obese because I ate what I wanted, I became obese following a period of a five year illness which left me bedbound."

and this one...

"My daughter thinks that I have not given conventional dieting enough of a chance. She feels that I could lose weight normally if I tried harder. I explained that I am addicted to food, cannot stop overeating and that my disability prevents me from exercising. I now am 95% bedbound."

If you can't see the obvious contradiction in your own words then you are too far in denial to get yourself any help. You cannot have a different and unreasonable fabrication for every problem. Instead of rudely making one excuse after another to people trying to help maybe you should face up to reality.

Ridiculous. My child's OPINION on my situation pre op, does not make it fact!

Nor does it change this actual topic.

You can't "help" me like a sleeve.

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In your post, you said you have a food addiction... you said it yourself. That's what she's referring to, not what your daughter said!

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I was assessed formally, no food addiction.

My disability does prevent exercise. I have spent years being more than that percentage bedbound.

I did feel that I was overeating in comparison to how much I moved.

Hence the bariatric referral.

But I wasn't eating anymore than a normal human. Just couldn't move.

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[GinaCampbell 434]

to anyone else who is pre op and scared by this story (as i originally was), allow me to help you be more informed than the OP was

http://bfy.tw/7TUV

Excellent!

Fantastic!

Now this is helpful.

You read my story and then did more research!

Well done!

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[GinaCampbell 434]

@@GinaCampbell

Here are some direct quotes from you::

"I have not had a long term weight issue, or food issue etc. I was not desperate nor incapable of losing weight either."

"I wasn't obese because I ate what I wanted, I became obese following a period of a five year illness which left me bedbound."

and this one...

"My daughter thinks that I have not given conventional dieting enough of a chance. She feels that I could lose weight normally if I tried harder. I explained that I am addicted to food, cannot stop overeating and that my disability prevents me from exercising. I now am 95% bedbound."

If you can't see the obvious contradiction in your own words then you are too far in denial to get yourself any help. You cannot have a different and unreasonable fabrication for every problem. Instead of rudely making one excuse after another to people trying to help maybe you should face up to reality.

Ridiculous. My child's OPINION on my situation pre op, does not make it fact!

Nor does it change this actual topic.

You can't "help" me like a sleeve.

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Okay, this is going to be my last post directed towards you specifically. You somehow managed to miss the entire point even though I put it in bold. The point is that now that you're post op you're blaming your weight gain on your situation and specifically saying that you didn't have a problem with food and the entire thing wasn't your fault.

When you were pre op, however, you blamed an addiction towards food and said that you couldn't stop overeating. You can't have it both ways, that was the point. It had nothing to do with your daughter. Sounds like you change your story depending on what suits you best. Once again, best of luck.

Refer to other responses for yet more scintillating details of my life history.

I am thrilled that you are so interested in trying to call me out, investigate me, insulting me etc rather than stick to the topic.

Some people, including people here who message me, just don't like the sleeve.

Stop deflecting.

Stop trying to change the topic.

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[GinaCampbell 434]

I initially empathised with the situation myself being a few weeks in. But the more I read the more I question why ?

I don't like seeing false accusations of bullying... Know one here is bullying anyone. However there are many caring posts trying to point out and correct various under thought careless inaccurate statements that have been made. And how ridiculous some seem to them. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it.

I don't think anyone is obsessed by this thread. Unfortunately anyone posting will get follow up emails pointing new posts out.

Most logical people seem infuriated that the gastric sleeve is being portrayed as useless. When if weight loss occurs it is working. It is only useless if given to someone who carelessly made their medical team believe it would work for them. This can be done by someone portraying themselves as medically and mentally fit to cope with having the operation.

I have just read a statement referencing mental instability and the use of counselling. No councillor worth their weight would sit reading this thread with a client laughing!

It is blatantly clear to everyone with any intelligence that we all individually have to ultimately take responsibility for our own actions and decisions. If we have had the gastric sleeve and regret it that is our own personal problem.

The gastric sleeve is nothing more than a simple operation where you have your stomach made smaller. With one aim to lose weight and control it.

There is nothing that can go wrong unless you unfortunately get a leak. This is avoided by following all your post op directions given to everyone who has the operation here in the UK.

Nothing in your body changes. The only difference is everyone having the operation has to take responsibility for changing their habits of a lifetime and learn to eat properly again. This process is difficult but not impossible. It takes support and mental stability to overcome .

Newborn babies suffer colic, wind diarrhoea, allergies and numerous health issues while their bodies adjust to food. If a baby can do it I'm sure so can we.

It will tell you anywhere that six weeks is not long enough to fully recover from any major surgery. We have all just had major surgery !

I hate my sleeve! What an admission but it's a very personal one. How awful it would be to have to admit that made made a ridiculously wrong decision for myself. If I was unstable I'd try to blame everyone but me. Probably because I was upset and couldn't cope with the thought I was wrong id want to pass the misery into other folks too. If I was stable I'd tell people I was a fool and if they where considering having the operation to make sure they researched and researched. It wasn't right for me but it does work for many .

We must think very logically before complaining the gastric sleeve was not right for us only a few months after the operation. Our bodies minds and diets need a long time to adjust. There is no way in a few months this can happen.

Any intelligent adult would wait and make sure they have made a full recovery. We can't make a fully informed decision like this until at least 1-3 years post surgery because everyone is different. By that time we will have reached already our lowest possible weight. We will be healed. We may be gaining again . But hopefully because of personal decisions you will have either succeeded or failed at your initial goal to lose weight and learn to control it.

If the gastric sleeve isn't working and there were no post op complications it is a personal problem. We need to ask our support team for help, question what am I doing wrong. If we we are not able to cope with the decision and what we have done. The operation can effect some people mentally. Ask for help. We need to question ourselves why can't I cope ? What can I do to help myself and to make it work?

I've just read a statement somewhere on this thread 'I didn't know anything about it ' SERIOUSLY! Come on pull the other one that's Impossible . We all have access to a team of support and the Internet.

At any pre-op initial NHS consultation for bariatric surgery we will have been verbally informed exactly what any operation entailed. We are also evaluated and asked what our personal lifestyle and eating habits are like. Know one is just granted this operation thoughtlessly. A lot of people are turned away. If granted the operation on the NHS it's because they consider our obesity to be of serious threat to our health.

Having internet access at home anyone with any intelligence making the decision to have a gastric sleeve would start researching. If we didn't do this it only goes prove we don't care about our health. If we don't care why should anyone else care about us ? This type of person is a danger to themselves and yes they should not be given the operation.

If? the UKs NHS is actually at fault and have a case to answer too! Here in the UK there is a simple complaints protocol in place that anyone can follow to forward complaint too. The NHS has recently had many major shake ups of hospitals and protocols and It is now more than their jobs worth to treat any complaint with distaste. Their is no fear involved in complaining. They will now bend over backwards to help. I have already read a reference to PALS.

http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/1082.aspx?CategoryID=68

If? I had a genuine case For malpractice I would not sit on a forum chanting to the world with 'oh woe is me' stamped on my head. I'd pick up the phone and action my concerns today.

There are also many medical claims companies that will pursue a claim for anyone. If you can prove you actually have something to complain about. Heres a good link.

http://www.patientclaimline.com/?utm_source=PPC&utm_medium=dynamicsa&utm_campaign=medicalnegligence&gclid=CI6ftv6W684CFWUo0wodc-YO5g

When given a house moving date by the council, or housing association you have to make a choice do I move? Or don't I ? Know one forces your hand. It's a case again take personal responsibility for our own decisions. We are in control of your own destiny always be logical think what is best for me? If someone is critically ill no healthcare or social team would move you. It would be a case where the candidate would have to prove they where well enough and had enough personal family support to make it possible.

CDIFF is nothing to do with the gastric sleeve operation. It is an illness anyone can pick up or carry in our bodies it is sometimes transmitted by poor personal hygiene, and in rare instances during any major surgery. It can generally be caused by over use of antibiotics and a very low immunity due to poor health.

CDIFF is highly contagious. If actually diagnosed it would never go untreated! If it is contracted in serious form it can ulcerate the bowel and cause a tear. This need monitoring. In a real emergency symptoms would be high fever and serious illness you would be immediately hospitalised.

CDIFF is not caught from dirty living and housing conditions. It can only be caught by poor personal hygiene. This is why hospitals use anti bac everywhere and surgeons scrub up prior to operating.

C. difficile bacteria and their spores are found in feces. People can get infected if they touch surfaces contaminated with feces and CDIFF spores and then touch their mouth. Healthcare workers can spread the bacteria to their patients if their hands are contaminated.

Can CDIFF be treated?Yes, there are antibiotics that can be used to treat CDIFF. If you have a mild case you are given these antibiotics and advised to carefully self care. In severe cases, a person might have to have surgery to remove the infected part of the intestine. This surgery is needed in only 1 or 2 out of every 100 persons with CDIFF.

We all know here in the UK the NHS is funded by our tax contributions however we do not pay enough it is severely underfunded. That is why there are hospitals closing and we have a general shortage of doctors and nurses. Limited care and pay disputes... I have also read references to this. You would have paid nearly £10000 for this op privately.

I was too was immobile on heavy medication this all contributed to my problems. However more importantly I stopped exercising. I also ate more calories in a day than I needed. Hence the weight gain. It is a scientific fact. This is why we become over weight.

Hospital operation appointments are not rushed. They always ask you have you got any questions. You sign pre- op consent form to say you are happy to have the operation. We must take responsibility for our own decisions. If they are uninformed it is our own fault.

Operations are definitely not rushed at all.

I have now just read quote "in the pre-op stream people think surgeries should stop for now, while the team concentrate on treating veterans that are sick" My opinion here is this actually an activist statement. It could be instigated by people who dislike the NHS paying to help the obese ? Is this a deliberate attempt to undermine those who have had or are thinking of bariatric surgery? Bariatric surgery is done by a bariatric specialist, they cant mend hearts, age related problems or broken legs?

If I said I was losing too much weight and I didn't like it. Folks would laugh at me. Considering the reason I had a gastric sleeve was to lose weight. in the first few months the weight loss is faster . It does slow down. Eventually we learn to control what we lose by how much we consume in a day. It's part of the learning curve. No point in me having a lazy attitude I've got to learn to take responsibility and help myself.

Again it's down to being mentally stable intelligent and choosing to do the right thing. Firstly by ringing your support team, group , doctor and getting proper advice . But only we can action that.

This site gives you all the information you need. The only thing it can't help you with is your own personal journey...

http://www.bariatric-surgery-source.com/bariatric-treatment.html

We definitely don't lose the support of your bariatric team only three months after having the operation. We all get follow up appointments. A few weeks months in its all still very very early days.

We all need to make sure we get the right help we need. We need to be honest and let the proper people know we need help if we are not coping and struggling.

This is a hard journey for any of us to make. But the health improve the that can be made by losing weight would make anyone's life more bearable.

I was disabled and on crutches at Christmas. This morning I ran down the stairs to answer the door to the postman. Need I say more... Given time things will get better.

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What a load of lies!

You can't change fact.

I can document everything I state.

Just because you came off crutches doesn't mean I will be suddenly cured of fibromyalgia!

So ignorant.

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[GinaCampbell 434]

If only we could undo some of the decisions we have made in the past....oh wait! If we could do that then we wouldn't be obese in the first place leading us to our decisions of WLS! Good luck Gina....I hope they get this all figured out for you so you can resume a somewhat normal life

If only I could have made the decision to not be disabled anymore. Then I wouldn't have lost the ability to walk, cook, shop etc.

Then I wouldn't have gotten so fat.

We disabled people should just try harder.

Wow!

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[GinaCampbell 434]

So desperate are the bullies now to discredit me, instead of staying on topic,

blatant lies are being told.

Now my disabilities are "all in my head", my therapist is now a liar (and he does find forum "gladiators" amusing due to the ridiculousness displayed), CBT counselling for pain and disability mgt is now "mental instability", and my reality is not true because it was not your experience.

It is this constant attacking against me personally that speaks volumes.

These people desperately need me to join the "I love my sleeve" club.

I never said that it is not useful to some people, just not all people.

I can't turn this "tool" off.

I never blamed the sleeve for contacting c diff. I contracted it in an NHS hospital. It went untreated for at least eight weeks. It was not diagnosed because my bariatric nurse refused to listen. Abdominal problems are "expected" etc. Two stool samples were not tested fir c diff. Stop calling me a liar.

I have already started a case with PALS. I will follow up with a legal case if I have to have longterm future treatment at my expense.

My bariatric team do not support me.

I have more than paid for my treatment in insurance contributions. No one here can dispute that as my income hasn't been discussed yet. I am sure that will be next, so obsessed are some people here with me.

Just stick to topic if you are intelligent enough.

I am four months in. I don't like my sleeve.

Fact.

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[GSleeve822 394]

@@GinaCampbell

Here are some direct quotes from you::

"I have not had a long term weight issue, or food issue etc. I was not desperate nor incapable of losing weight either."

"I wasn't obese because I ate what I wanted, I became obese following a period of a five year illness which left me bedbound."

and this one...

"My daughter thinks that I have not given conventional dieting enough of a chance. She feels that I could lose weight normally if I tried harder. I explained that I am addicted to food, cannot stop overeating and that my disability prevents me from exercising. I now am 95% bedbound."

If you can't see the obvious contradiction in your own words then you are too far in denial to get yourself any help. You cannot have a different and unreasonable fabrication for every problem. Instead of rudely making one excuse after another to people trying to help maybe you should face up to reality.

Ridiculous. My child's OPINION on my situation pre op, does not make it fact!

Nor does it change this actual topic.

You can't "help" me like a sleeve.

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Okay, this is going to be my last post directed towards you specifically. You somehow managed to miss the entire point even though I put it in bold. The point is that now that you're post op you're blaming your weight gain on your situation and specifically saying that you didn't have a problem with food and the entire thing wasn't your fault.

When you were pre op, however, you blamed an addiction towards food and said that you couldn't stop overeating. You can't have it both ways, that was the point. It had nothing to do with your daughter. Sounds like you change your story depending on what suits you best. Once again, best of luck.

Refer to other responses for yet more scintillating details of my life history.

I am thrilled that you are so interested in trying to call me out, investigate me, insulting me etc rather than stick to the topic.

Some people, including people here who message me, just don't like the sleeve.

Stop deflecting.

Stop trying to change the topic.

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STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THE TOPIC! SHE ONLY WANTS TO COMPLAIN AND MAKE EXCUSES!

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[GSleeve822 394]

I know what you are saying. After so many years in the program, meeting all the requirements etc. I do see a "just give me a date" mentality. I was told by experts "this is your only option" so why would I question it. My CBT counsellor through pain mgt hinted that this was a bad idea because he felt CBT could "cure" fibro and CFS therefore my mobility would return and the weight would go back off naturally.

My bariatric team are not supporting me now. I have met all the weight loss goals so am ahead to them. I will have a colonoscopy in a few weeks and my surgeon will tell me what's next for the colitis.

A triage nurse is contacting a microbiologist now and will inform me if how the GP wants to proceed.

The sleeve is now way down the list with all my healthcare providers.

I assume that the team will want to see me at the six month mark but who knows.

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If your therapist thought cognitive behavioral therapy could "cure" fibromyalgia then it's because they thought it was in your head. There's no therapist that thinks doing CBT will cure a physical problem.

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My CBT believes that ANYONE can be cured of chronic illness through subconscious and conscious behavioural therapy.

So now you purport to know what my NHS CBT therapist thinks.

Hilarious!

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Get a new therapist, asap.

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