Post op regrets topics - not popular

[#thebestofme 118]

People educate themselves everyday. And it begins with not knowing.

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[LisaMergs 2,854]

@@GinaCampbell

Here are some direct quotes from you::

"I have not had a long term weight issue, or food issue etc. I was not desperate nor incapable of losing weight either."

"I wasn't obese because I ate what I wanted, I became obese following a period of a five year illness which left me bedbound."

and this one...

"My daughter thinks that I have not given conventional dieting enough of a chance. She feels that I could lose weight normally if I tried harder. I explained that I am addicted to food, cannot stop overeating and that my disability prevents me from exercising. I now am 95% bedbound."

If you can't see the obvious contradiction in your own words then you are too far in denial to get yourself any help. You cannot have a different and unreasonable fabrication for every problem. Instead of rudely making one excuse after another to people trying to help maybe you should face up to reality.

Ridiculous. My child's OPINION on my situation pre op, does not make it fact!

Nor does it change this actual topic.

You can't "help" me like a sleeve.

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I find it odd that you quote and reply to this message, yet you blatantly ignore being called out for the discrepancies in your own statements...

I'm thinking you need to take this to your local news instead of here, Gina. Whatever you are going through, this will not make you a "whistleblower", and whomever you choose to "take on" here is really of no service to you. No one here can help you or your situation. No one here can change your healthcare access or treatment protocols. Perhaps actually standing up and shedding light where it has the most impact- in your community- would be the most prudent choice.

You mentioned having OT's move you. I don't understand why they are in charge of your housing? Perhaps you are on some type of government assistance and housing- which is fine, I pass no judgement on that. However, perhaps a move to an area that has better hospital service would be a consideration.

If you stood back a moment and realized that your retorts back to people here is what stirs the proverbial hornets nest, you'd come to see that your silence would, indeed, stop the insanity this has become.

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[mohairbears 37]

Early on in this thread I did empathise.

However after now reading all the posts which I must say do come from a very narrow minded point of view I've seriously had my eyes opened.

Seriously folks if you are planning bariatric surgery please don't pay heed to this viciously over exaggerated and very negative thread.

I'm now five weeks in and although it can be a struggle at times, it's really life changing worth every once of hard work needed to gain success.

Like this lady pre-op I suffered from many of the same illnesses fibromyalgia, crippling Arthritis, irritable bowel, lumber spondylosis, just to name a few. I took a large cocktail of drugs that the side effects from made me very ill and yes I was one was lyrica too. I was virtually housebound for a year.

Since Xmas I've lost 3 stone. One and a half stone lost since the op Only five weeks ago. I no longer take any medication apart from paracetamols and lansoprazole which protects our stomach while it's healing. I no longer need crutches and am vitally pain free.

I live in the UK and did extensive research on bariatric surgery prior to my op . I know the NHS offer an amazing comprehensive service for those lucky enough to live in a district that can fund bariatric surgery free in the UK.

You get free pre counselling

Good free pre op care

Good post op care including medication and follow up diet all prescribed free.

Free follow up appointments with your bariatric surgeon.

A free post op support group

And free care from a doctor if you need it.

If you live in the right district her in the UK the Gastric Sleeve operation on the NHS will cost you nothing.

I know people here on the UK who would jump at the chance to have this life saving and changing operation but their district has not got the funds to offer it.

I hasten to add I could have gone through the NHS but chose to pay nearly £10000 for my op because I could afford it, I got the op performed within four weeks privately my decision because health was so bad and I was virtually housebound. I don't regret it at all.

I now have use of private telephone support. But I also have access to a regular NHS support group where I meet people who support each other.

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I've just read about not knowing about the effects of bariatric surgery. This is impossible !

Everyone has a consultation with your surgeon before making the decision to have the operation .

Everyone has a pre op consultation with a team of nurses.

Before surgery everyone meets with their surgeon and anaesthetic consultant. Everyone has to read and sign a pre-op agreement outlining exactly what could go wrong during and after their operation.

The surgeons have to be so careful. They need to know you understand all the risks.

From all the frequent posts above full of drama you would think the care here on our NHS is non existent. This is not true!

What worries me and many other people is a narrow minded point of view we are reading can scare monger and ruin other people's chances.

I also find it extremely disturbing to read there was no understanding to what the operation entailed or what would be happening after the op.

However someones pointed out a membership on this forum of ten years prior to surgery. A ten years membership here would make an expert of anyone!

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I've now read of another side effect from the operation is Clostridium difficile. This can be carried in the body and could be caught after any operation. Unfortunately it had to be another drama and turn into a further more serious complication.

I've just read the support for this condition is also poor with no proper treatment and no doctor support.

The NHS in the UK take this infection very seriously. Granted there is a massive shortage of doctors in the UK it can regularly take weeks to see one . However you can get phone call appointment and readily get nurse appointments. Also emergency appointments instantly if deemed necessary.

I can't believe I've just read that while so critically ill with gastric sleeve problems and CDiff a house move have been planned actioned and is taking place... If things were so bad this would be Impossible! A house moved is deemed as one of the most stressful events we can have in our life. This can also effect our digestion and bowels.

Let's look at... Clostridium difficile:

What is the treatment for Clostridium difficile infection?

The decision to treat C. difficile infection and on the type of treatment depends on the severity of the illness.

No treatment is needed if you have no symptoms but are known to carry the germs (bacteria) in your gut. However, if symptoms develop, some of the treatments below may be needed. If you are not already in hospital, people who have mild infection can often be treated at home.

However, if the infection is more severe, you will usually be admitted to hospital so that you can be treated and closely monitored.

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Pseudomembranous colitis signs and symptoms:

Diarrhea that can be watery or even bloody.

Abdominal cramps, pain or tenderness.

Fever.

Pus or mucus in your stool.

Nausea.

Dehydration.

Pseudomembranous colitis self-management:

To cope with the diarrhea and dehydration that can occur with pseudomembranous colitis, try to:

Drink plenty of fluids. Water is best, but fluids with added sodium and potassium (electrolytes) also may be beneficial. Avoid beverages that are high in sugar or contain alcohol or caffeine, such as coffee, tea and colas, which can aggravate your symptoms.

Choose soft, easy-to-digest foods. These include applesauce, bananas and rice. Avoid high-fiber foods, such as Beans, nuts and vegetables. If you feel your symptoms are improving, slowly add high-fiber foods back to your diet.

Eat several small meals, rather than a few large meals. Space the smaller meals throughout the day.

Avoid irritating foods. Stay away from spicy, fatty or fried foods, and any other foods that cause you problems.

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If suffering this illness, it seems having the gastric sleeve which limits the intake of all the irritating types of foods that can make the current problem worse is really a very good thing!

That is if following a gastric sleeve diet properly. That means reading all the paperwork and diet advice everyone undertaking this operation is given prior to leaving hospital.

The gastric sleeve operation will help anyone recover faster.

Doctors medication advice. Sensible foods, lots of liquids and don't forget your soluble or liquid vitamins ...

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I won't waste breath arguing with this lengthy, inaccurate post.

This house move has been very badly timed. It was planned months ago, to take place prior to my surgery by Occupational Therapists assisting my healthcare with our local council.

As a courtesy, I consented to bringing the surgery forward as a new surgeon had been brought in and surgeries criteria changed. As I was not expected to be in the HDU, my list hurtled forward by months.

I was assured that I would be fit and healthy and on my feet in six weeks so the move could transpire.

Obviously, that all went to pot.

The new house could not be held indefinitely so the OT's insisted that I move or lose the house, which was not an option. They have also been keen to remove me from the hot zone of the c dif so they can get me into a "cleaner" environment. They can then address the spore filled wet room that I have lived in during the three months that I had undiagnosed c dif.

I am expected to be hospitalised 60 miles away in an infectious disease unit for intensive treatment by a specialist. We are currently attempting to get the referral in place.

Since you are an NHS "expert", you will know how long these system streams take. I am in email contact with the consultant involved.

I am also now awaiting a triage call tomorrow to decide if the c dif will go untreated in the meantime or if I will go onto my second round of metronidazole. The big confusion is duty of care. GP considers this post op surgical duty of care, bariatric team considers this to be GP duty of care.

As you are an NHS expert, you will understand this.

I repeat, unless you have been treated here, in our local system, you have no idea what my group knew or didn't know. I can prove everything I have said as there are so many of us.

I have detailed information that PALS is dealing with on my behalf and have the full support of my GP regarding treatment (or lack of it) that she considers incredulous.

NONE of my NHS treatment is free!

I worked long and hard over half of my life to pay my National Insurance contributions at both employee and employer rates.

You highlight the postcode lottery that patients face.

You clearly had a good supportive team. I am pleased for you.

Saying that my case is "impossible" is just ridiculous.

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[GinaCampbell 434]

@@GinaCampbell

Here are some direct quotes from you::

"I have not had a long term weight issue, or food issue etc. I was not desperate nor incapable of losing weight either."

"I wasn't obese because I ate what I wanted, I became obese following a period of a five year illness which left me bedbound."

and this one...

"My daughter thinks that I have not given conventional dieting enough of a chance. She feels that I could lose weight normally if I tried harder. I explained that I am addicted to food, cannot stop overeating and that my disability prevents me from exercising. I now am 95% bedbound."

If you can't see the obvious contradiction in your own words then you are too far in denial to get yourself any help. You cannot have a different and unreasonable fabrication for every problem. Instead of rudely making one excuse after another to people trying to help maybe you should face up to reality.

Ridiculous. My child's OPINION on my situation pre op, does not make it fact!

Nor does it change this actual topic.

You can't "help" me like a sleeve.

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I find it odd that you quote and reply to this message, yet you blatantly ignore being called out for the discrepancies in your own statements...

I'm thinking you need to take this to your local news instead of here, Gina. Whatever you are going through, this will not make you a "whistleblower", and whomever you choose to "take on" here is really of no service to you. No one here can help you or your situation. No one here can change your healthcare access or treatment protocols. Perhaps actually standing up and shedding light where it has the most impact- in your community- would be the most prudent choice.

You mentioned having OT's move you. I don't understand why they are in charge of your housing? Perhaps you are on some type of government assistance and housing- which is fine, I pass no judgement on that. However, perhaps a move to an area that has better hospital service would be a consideration.

If you stood back a moment and realized that your retorts back to people here is what stirs the proverbial hornets nest, you'd come to see that your silence would, indeed, stop the insanity this has become.

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Yes they are in charge because I am disabled and my current housing is unsuitable.

I have already said that I am going to other hospitals where available.

chicken and egg. They post, I post.

People come here to this thread, I never ever comment on other people's threads anymore as I have been hated on since I declared that I dislike my sleeve.

If it is insanity, it is other people causing it.

If you like your sleeve, don't comment on me disliking mine.

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[GinaCampbell 434]

People educate themselves everyday. And it begins with not knowing.

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Every question I asked pre op was "don't worry, we haven't had blah, blah happen in 400 surgeries".

Every question I asked post op was answered with " so sorry, this has never happened before".

Except it did, to many other patients who were sleeved with me.

That simply is omitting the truth. So it is clearly possible omissions were made pre op.

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[LisaMergs 2,854]

@@GinaCampbell

Here are some direct quotes from you::

"I have not had a long term weight issue, or food issue etc. I was not desperate nor incapable of losing weight either."

"I wasn't obese because I ate what I wanted, I became obese following a period of a five year illness which left me bedbound."

and this one...

"My daughter thinks that I have not given conventional dieting enough of a chance. She feels that I could lose weight normally if I tried harder. I explained that I am addicted to food, cannot stop overeating and that my disability prevents me from exercising. I now am 95% bedbound."

If you can't see the obvious contradiction in your own words then you are too far in denial to get yourself any help. You cannot have a different and unreasonable fabrication for every problem. Instead of rudely making one excuse after another to people trying to help maybe you should face up to reality.

Ridiculous. My child's OPINION on my situation pre op, does not make it fact!

Nor does it change this actual topic.

You can't "help" me like a sleeve.

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I find it odd that you quote and reply to this message, yet you blatantly ignore being called out for the discrepancies in your own statements...

I'm thinking you need to take this to your local news instead of here, Gina. Whatever you are going through, this will not make you a "whistleblower", and whomever you choose to "take on" here is really of no service to you. No one here can help you or your situation. No one here can change your healthcare access or treatment protocols. Perhaps actually standing up and shedding light where it has the most impact- in your community- would be the most prudent choice.

You mentioned having OT's move you. I don't understand why they are in charge of your housing? Perhaps you are on some type of government assistance and housing- which is fine, I pass no judgement on that. However, perhaps a move to an area that has better hospital service would be a consideration.

If you stood back a moment and realized that your retorts back to people here is what stirs the proverbial hornets nest, you'd come to see that your silence would, indeed, stop the insanity this has become.

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Yes they are in charge because I am disabled and my current housing is unsuitable.

I have already said that I am going to other hospitals where available.

chicken and egg. They post, I post.

People come here to this thread, I never ever comment on other people's threads anymore as I have been hated on since I declared that I dislike my sleeve.

If it is insanity, it is other people causing it.

If you like your sleeve, don't comment on me disliking mine.

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This is my point, exactly. I said nothing inflammatory to you- simply suggested that you might be better served voicing your issues where they have the most impact- in the community where you reside.

However, you choose to be nasty and confrontational.

And for what it is worth? I don't like or dislike my sleeve since I don't have one. I'm a bypass patient and loving every second of it!

Mic drop.

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[GinaCampbell 434]

@@GinaCampbell

Here are some direct quotes from you::

"I have not had a long term weight issue, or food issue etc. I was not desperate nor incapable of losing weight either."

"I wasn't obese because I ate what I wanted, I became obese following a period of a five year illness which left me bedbound."

and this one...

"My daughter thinks that I have not given conventional dieting enough of a chance. She feels that I could lose weight normally if I tried harder. I explained that I am addicted to food, cannot stop overeating and that my disability prevents me from exercising. I now am 95% bedbound."

If you can't see the obvious contradiction in your own words then you are too far in denial to get yourself any help. You cannot have a different and unreasonable fabrication for every problem. Instead of rudely making one excuse after another to people trying to help maybe you should face up to reality.

I "fabricate" nothing. I can document everything I say.

I have witnesses and fellow patients like me as friends.

There is no help offered to me now because I am different. I dislike my sleeve.

I have lost far too much weight, far to fast. I am still losing 5 to 7 lbs a week.

I do not deny any of the truth.

It is people insulting me that has caused this thread to become abusive and aggressive.

The fact is this, I dislike my sleeve.

Deal with it.

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[madadams 130]

A quick search in Google for "complications following sleeve gastrectomy" gives a whole list of post op potential problems. Why on earth didn't you see this preop Gina? It honestly baffles me. I had 6 weeks between my initial consultation and surgery and I found all these things out in that time. I just don't understand how, with all the time you had, you didn't even know about gallbladder issues.

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[GinaCampbell 434]

A quick search in Google for "complications following sleeve gastrectomy" gives a whole list of post op potential problems. Why on earth didn't you see this preop Gina? It honestly baffles me. I had 6 weeks between my initial consultation and surgery and I found all these things out in that time. I just don't understand how, with all the time you had, you didn't even know about gallbladder issues.

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No, never saw it. Of course, I wasn't expecting to lose so much weight so fast so it wasn't discussed.

I only researched "normal" post op procedures. Was told by the surgeons and bariatric nurse that it would "be a doddle".

Why would I doubt the experts?

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[madadams 130]

That's a shame but tbh I don't think it would have changed your mind. I see preop patients every day and it's very rare they change their minds when they are told the risks. Just as I didn't preop when I knew what could happen. Even death!! It's human nature to ignore the risks and take the "it will never happen to me" stance. Hope you get sorted with your team.

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[GinaCampbell 434]

I know what you are saying. After so many years in the program, meeting all the requirements etc. I do see a "just give me a date" mentality. I was told by experts "this is your only option" so why would I question it. My CBT counsellor through pain mgt hinted that this was a bad idea because he felt CBT could "cure" fibro and CFS therefore my mobility would return and the weight would go back off naturally.

My bariatric team are not supporting me now. I have met all the weight loss goals so am ahead to them. I will have a colonoscopy in a few weeks and my surgeon will tell me what's next for the colitis.

A triage nurse is contacting a microbiologist now and will inform me if how the GP wants to proceed.

The sleeve is now way down the list with all my healthcare providers.

I assume that the team will want to see me at the six month mark but who knows.

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[mohairbears 37]

I initially empathised with the situation myself being a few weeks in. But the more I read the more I question why ?

I don't like seeing false accusations of bullying... Know one here is bullying anyone. However there are many caring posts trying to point out and correct various under thought careless inaccurate statements that have been made. And how ridiculous some seem to them. Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it.

I don't think anyone is obsessed by this thread. Unfortunately anyone posting will get follow up emails pointing new posts out.

Most logical people seem infuriated that the gastric sleeve is being portrayed as useless. When if weight loss occurs it is working. It is only useless if given to someone who carelessly made their medical team believe it would work for them. This can be done by someone portraying themselves as medically and mentally fit to cope with having the operation.

I have just read a statement referencing mental instability and the use of counselling. No councillor worth their weight would sit reading this thread with a client laughing!

It is blatantly clear to everyone with any intelligence that we all individually have to ultimately take responsibility for our own actions and decisions. If we have had the gastric sleeve and regret it that is our own personal problem.

The gastric sleeve is nothing more than a simple operation where you have your stomach made smaller. With one aim to lose weight and control it.

There is nothing that can go wrong unless you unfortunately get a leak. This is avoided by following all your post op directions given to everyone who has the operation here in the UK.

Nothing in your body changes. The only difference is everyone having the operation has to take responsibility for changing their habits of a lifetime and learn to eat properly again. This process is difficult but not impossible. It takes support and mental stability to overcome .

Newborn babies suffer colic, wind diarrhoea, allergies and numerous health issues while their bodies adjust to food. If a baby can do it I'm sure so can we.

It will tell you anywhere that six weeks is not long enough to fully recover from any major surgery. We have all just had major surgery !

I hate my sleeve! What an admission but it's a very personal one. How awful it would be to have to admit that made made a ridiculously wrong decision for myself. If I was unstable I'd try to blame everyone but me. Probably because I was upset and couldn't cope with the thought I was wrong id want to pass the misery into other folks too. If I was stable I'd tell people I was a fool and if they where considering having the operation to make sure they researched and researched. It wasn't right for me but it does work for many .

We must think very logically before complaining the gastric sleeve was not right for us only a few months after the operation. Our bodies minds and diets need a long time to adjust. There is no way in a few months this can happen.

Any intelligent adult would wait and make sure they have made a full recovery. We can't make a fully informed decision like this until at least 1-3 years post surgery because everyone is different. By that time we will have reached already our lowest possible weight. We will be healed. We may be gaining again . But hopefully because of personal decisions you will have either succeeded or failed at your initial goal to lose weight and learn to control it.

If the gastric sleeve isn't working and there were no post op complications it is a personal problem. We need to ask our support team for help, question what am I doing wrong. If we we are not able to cope with the decision and what we have done. The operation can effect some people mentally. Ask for help. We need to question ourselves why can't I cope ? What can I do to help myself and to make it work?

I've just read a statement somewhere on this thread 'I didn't know anything about it ' SERIOUSLY! Come on pull the other one that's Impossible . We all have access to a team of support and the Internet.

At any pre-op initial NHS consultation for bariatric surgery we will have been verbally informed exactly what any operation entailed. We are also evaluated and asked what our personal lifestyle and eating habits are like. Know one is just granted this operation thoughtlessly. A lot of people are turned away. If granted the operation on the NHS it's because they consider our obesity to be of serious threat to our health.

Having internet access at home anyone with any intelligence making the decision to have a gastric sleeve would start researching. If we didn't do this it only goes prove we don't care about our health. If we don't care why should anyone else care about us ? This type of person is a danger to themselves and yes they should not be given the operation.

If? the UKs NHS is actually at fault and have a case to answer too! Here in the UK there is a simple complaints protocol in place that anyone can follow to forward complaint too. The NHS has recently had many major shake ups of hospitals and protocols and It is now more than their jobs worth to treat any complaint with distaste. Their is no fear involved in complaining. They will now bend over backwards to help. I have already read a reference to PALS.

http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/1082.aspx?CategoryID=68

If? I had a genuine case For malpractice I would not sit on a forum chanting to the world with 'oh woe is me' stamped on my head. I'd pick up the phone and action my concerns today.

There are also many medical claims companies that will pursue a claim for anyone. If you can prove you actually have something to complain about. Heres a good link.

http://www.patientclaimline.com/?utm_source=PPC&utm_medium=dynamicsa&utm_campaign=medicalnegligence&gclid=CI6ftv6W684CFWUo0wodc-YO5g

When given a house moving date by the council, or housing association you have to make a choice do I move? Or don't I ? Know one forces your hand. It's a case again take personal responsibility for our own decisions. We are in control of your own destiny always be logical think what is best for me? If someone is critically ill no healthcare or social team would move you. It would be a case where the candidate would have to prove they where well enough and had enough personal family support to make it possible.

CDIFF is nothing to do with the gastric sleeve operation. It is an illness anyone can pick up or carry in our bodies it is sometimes transmitted by poor personal hygiene, and in rare instances during any major surgery. It can generally be caused by over use of antibiotics and a very low immunity due to poor health.

CDIFF is highly contagious. If actually diagnosed it would never go untreated! If it is contracted in serious form it can ulcerate the bowel and cause a tear. This need monitoring. In a real emergency symptoms would be high fever and serious illness you would be immediately hospitalised.

CDIFF is not caught from dirty living and housing conditions. It can only be caught by poor personal hygiene. This is why hospitals use anti bac everywhere and surgeons scrub up prior to operating.

C. difficile bacteria and their spores are found in feces. People can get infected if they touch surfaces contaminated with feces and CDIFF spores and then touch their mouth. Healthcare workers can spread the bacteria to their patients if their hands are contaminated.

Can CDIFF be treated?Yes, there are antibiotics that can be used to treat CDIFF. If you have a mild case you are given these antibiotics and advised to carefully self care. In severe cases, a person might have to have surgery to remove the infected part of the intestine. This surgery is needed in only 1 or 2 out of every 100 persons with CDIFF.

We all know here in the UK the NHS is funded by our tax contributions however we do not pay enough it is severely underfunded. That is why there are hospitals closing and we have a general shortage of doctors and nurses. Limited care and pay disputes... I have also read references to this. You would have paid nearly £10000 for this op privately.

I was too was immobile on heavy medication this all contributed to my problems. However more importantly I stopped exercising. I also ate more calories in a day than I needed. Hence the weight gain. It is a scientific fact. This is why we become over weight.

Hospital operation appointments are not rushed. They always ask you have you got any questions. You sign pre- op consent form to say you are happy to have the operation. We must take responsibility for our own decisions. If they are uninformed it is our own fault.

Operations are definitely not rushed at all.

I have now just read quote "in the pre-op stream people think surgeries should stop for now, while the team concentrate on treating veterans that are sick" My opinion here is this actually an activist statement. It could be instigated by people who dislike the NHS paying to help the obese ? Is this a deliberate attempt to undermine those who have had or are thinking of bariatric surgery? Bariatric surgery is done by a bariatric specialist, they cant mend hearts, age related problems or broken legs?

If I said I was losing too much weight and I didn't like it. Folks would laugh at me. Considering the reason I had a gastric sleeve was to lose weight. in the first few months the weight loss is faster . It does slow down. Eventually we learn to control what we lose by how much we consume in a day. It's part of the learning curve. No point in me having a lazy attitude I've got to learn to take responsibility and help myself.

Again it's down to being mentally stable intelligent and choosing to do the right thing. Firstly by ringing your support team, group , doctor and getting proper advice . But only we can action that.

This site gives you all the information you need. The only thing it can't help you with is your own personal journey...

http://www.bariatric-surgery-source.com/bariatric-treatment.html

We definitely don't lose the support of your bariatric team only three months after having the operation. We all get follow up appointments. A few weeks months in its all still very very early days.

We all need to make sure we get the right help we need. We need to be honest and let the proper people know we need help if we are not coping and struggling.

This is a hard journey for any of us to make. But the health improve the that can be made by losing weight would make anyone's life more bearable.

I was disabled and on crutches at Christmas. This morning I ran down the stairs to answer the door to the postman. Need I say more... Given time things will get better.

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[ella37 455]

@@GinaCampbell

Here are some direct quotes from you::

"I have not had a long term weight issue, or food issue etc. I was not desperate nor incapable of losing weight either."

"I wasn't obese because I ate what I wanted, I became obese following a period of a five year illness which left me bedbound."

and this one...

"My daughter thinks that I have not given conventional dieting enough of a chance. She feels that I could lose weight normally if I tried harder. I explained that I am addicted to food, cannot stop overeating and that my disability prevents me from exercising. I now am 95% bedbound."

If you can't see the obvious contradiction in your own words then you are too far in denial to get yourself any help. You cannot have a different and unreasonable fabrication for every problem. Instead of rudely making one excuse after another to people trying to help maybe you should face up to reality.

Ridiculous. My child's OPINION on my situation pre op, does not make it fact!

Nor does it change this actual topic.

You can't "help" me like a sleeve.

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Okay, this is going to be my last post directed towards you specifically. You somehow managed to miss the entire point even though I put it in bold. The point is that now that you're post op you're blaming your weight gain on your situation and specifically saying that you didn't have a problem with food and the entire thing wasn't your fault.

When you were pre op, however, you blamed an addiction towards food and said that you couldn't stop overeating. You can't have it both ways, that was the point. It had nothing to do with your daughter. Sounds like you change your story depending on what suits you best. Once again, best of luck.

[ella37 455]

to anyone else who is pre op and scared by this story (as i originally was), allow me to help you be more informed than the OP was

http://bfy.tw/7TUV

[Thecloude1 342]

If only we could undo some of the decisions we have made in the past....oh wait! If we could do that then we wouldn't be obese in the first place leading us to our decisions of WLS! [emoji3][emoji106] Good luck Gina....I hope they get this all figured out for you so you can resume a somewhat normal life [emoji3]