I have a serious question... I know, right?!?!

[Bufflehead 6,358]

When I was your weight, I lost pretty steadily by eating about 1500 calories per day and exercising regularly but *not* trying to track and eat back calories burned via exercise.

Ratios of carbs/fats/protein has never seemed to matter much in terms of how much or even whether I lose weight except to say that if I eat high carb foods at all (sweets and grains in particular) I find it much harder to stay on track, so that has an indirect effect on my success.

[gary5862 208]

The science behind eating more to lose more is that it raises your metabolism. If it were me, I would couple that with a new exercise routine.

If you're not lifting weights now you should start when you shift your diet. If you are lifting, try lifting heavy, short sets.

As mentioned above, that's what bodybuilders do. They have bulk and cut stages to build muscle (and increase metabolism) then cut stages to lose fat.

[LipstickLady 25,682]

First and foremost you've got to track every nibble, lick, chew and swallow (snort!) to see what's really going on.

Your body is in a rut. Being a dumb American, I've no idea how much you weigh in pounds, how much you've lost or how tall you are. I'll google that, though.

I'd suggest looking into the 5:2 diet. It really shakes things up metabolically. You do five days of smart eating and two days of practically fasting. Or, another that has worked for me is 18:6. I "fast" for 18 hours and do all my eating in 6 hours over the day. A few days gets things moving and it's not horrible.

You know, I have some friends that are really good at the micro/macro thing and can analyze the poo out of you. You'd have to come over to the dark side, though.

[Inner Surfer Girl 12,015]

You have done really well so far. I am surprised you haven't been tracking this all along. I couldn't do this without MyFitnessPal.

Since you are a bloke I would recommend at least 100 grams of Protein. What have you been doing up to now? What is your Protein target?

The carbs and fats will follow the protein target (try 40% protein, 30% fats, 30% carbs to start). Make sure the fats are good fats and the carbs are good carbs. I avoid, for the most part, added sugars (especially high fructose corn syrup), starches, and fried foods.

[Wolfgirl78 266]

I track my calories through myfitnesspal. If you put in all your information, height, weight, and all that it'll calculate the calories needed to lose weight.

I don't have set numbers for my macros (protein/carbs/fat) but I still Stick to Protein first, and not over indulge in carbs. My ratio usually ends up with fat being the highest, then Protein, then carbs

Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Edited June 14, 2016 by Wolfgirl78

[Tommy Joe 113]

In one of my many previous diets whenever this happened we had a blast day where you basically shoved food at your stomach. It is like our stomachs get ticked off and shut down sort of like starve me will ya ya bastard I'm in my pre op liquid diet so don't know how this works with the bypass thing. I'm also a stupid American so don't know how many pounds your kilothingies are but I think for goodness sake Celebrate all you have lost! I can't ever remember bitc$$$ because I lost only 40 pounds lol

[mistybell 8]

Hello! Congratulations on your progress so far!

I'm a woman who is about half a foot shorter than you are, so my numbers may not be overly helpful but you asked for them so here they are.

My surgeon's recommendation is 50-70 g Protein with no specific carbohydrate or calorie limit. My 'goals' in My Fitness Pal are set at 1,000 calories, 35% Protein (88g), 35% carbohydrate (88g) and 30% fat (33g). I'm usually pretty happy as long as I hit about 800-1100 calories and at least 70g protein. I don't worry too much about the carbs and fat as long as they stay pretty balanced. I hope this helps you find what works for you!

[gary5862 208]

For all you Americans:

255kg = 562lbs

106kg = 233lbs

40kg = 88lbs

Just for the record. I'm seriously impressed with the weight you've lost already. That's a huge accomplishment and you should be very proud.

Edited June 14, 2016 by gary5862

[jintycb 721]

Bloody hell KF. You have done AMAZINGLY. Respect! I thought that I was doing well with my weight loss but your tally makes me look like a complete amateur! You've lost half your body weight! Wonder where your old other half lives now? Probably somewhere where he's strutting his stuff in an emerald green mankini whilst slathering arse cream on his turkey neck..............

There's some really good advice on a load of these posts. A lot of folks saying similar things about getting a few more calories in on a day or two each week. I'm reading a really interesting book, 'The Obesity Code' and part of what I've read so far is along the lines of getting a slowed down metabolism speeded up by increasing calorie intake so that the body doesn't think that it is in the middle of a famine. Might be worth a read. Good luck my love and keep us up to speed with scuppering that stall.

[Dub 9,922]

Kinda......I fell ya, mayne.

Piss on a stall. Hate those damn things.

I got powerfully pissed off with one two weeks ago and went back to the basics and busted through it.

Low carb Protein powder mixed with ice & Water.....and daily gym visits. This kept my carbs und 20 grams each day and my Protein elevated to the 120 grams per day level.

The only solid foods I had were ham omelettes, some tuna and grilled chicken. I had a couple days where I went bonkers for something to crunch on. Bell peppers, celery and a daily apple helped keep my crunch beast satisfied.

[KindaFamiliar 3,867]

Thank you all for your input..

I said last night that I'd reply to each of you so here goes...

@@Christinamo7

I'm aiming for a higher Protein than the 'bare minimum'.

I've been a regular gym-goer but have been a little lax recently...

(It seems I've been distracted..)

When I'm doing weights, I do tend to consume more Protein.< /p>

Again, I've not been tracking until the past two days and I'm ok with my protein intake and my fats.

I've not been certain about carbs so have been taking it easy.

But from what I've seen in the thread, I may be underdoing the carbs.

Thank you very much for your input

@@DaisyAmy

I intend doing myself up a new training regimen this weekend.

I'm going to add some HIIT to three of my cardio sessions as well as starting some more strict weights.

Good luck with breaking your stall..

Keep us posted!!

@@FrankiesGirl

You make a good observation re the 'cheat meal'.

That was something I partook in during a past weight loss experiment and it did seem to work.

Once I've got used to tracking, I think I'll add a Sunday night cheat meal and see if that helps.

You say you try to keep your carbs under 100g daily - I've noticed that I'm sitting at around 40g per day.

I've no real idea about such things so if 100g is closer to the mark, I'm definitely short on carbs.

I also note that, when I add my exercise (not that I've done it but I'm just checking), my 'net calories' appears to be waaaay to low. I'm thinking I may try the high cal/low cal on alternating days, depending on exercise levels and intensity.

Thank you for taking the time to reply...

@@fernandfj

Again, I note that you're around 100g of carbs per day. As I stated earlier, my carb intake is MUCH lower than that, so it looks like I'll need to up them somewhat.

Like you, I have three meals and two Snacks. I also add a 'recovery' Protein shake after my morning gym session in an effort to alleviate the DOMS etc.

Thanx for your input mate...

Much appreciated!

@@Bufflehead

I'm trying 1500 cal a day now. Doing the tracking of course, just to see where i'm at.

Hopefully the mindfulness re consumption plus a change in exercise will kick-start things..

Thank you so much for replying.

Your assistance is appreciated..

@@gary5862

Yep, the exercise will be changing.

I've been 'lifting' to some degree, but not recording weights and reps etc...

I'll be doing up a new program on the weekend and will refer back to your post when I'm setting my reps/sets..

Thanx for your input mate...

And for doing the math for the 'dumb Americans'...

@@LipstickLady

At least you said those things needed to be 'tracked' and not 'recorded'.

I can only imagine what sort of recordings you'd be after!!

I don't mind either the 5:2 or the 18:6 theories. I'd forgotten about both of them. As I'm still yet to feel hungry, either of them will be relatively easy for me to have a crack at.

I'm not sure that I want your friends analyzing me. Actually, I had a friend of mine ask me to be a 'case study' for her Psychology assignment. That lasted exactly one 'session'. I was no use to her because it seems I broke all the psychological 'rules' that she was trying to prove... But I digress...

I've no fear of the dark side.

Feel free to tell me more...

Thank you for taking the time to reply..

@@Inner Surfer Girl

Yep, I'm new to the whole tracking thing.

I didn't feel the need for it until now. I was one of the 'lucky' ones who had been around the weight loss thing for a few years so had some level of knowledge.

My protein target varies depending on exercise/weights. I aim for at least 100 if I'm not lifting and for 140+ if I am.

As far as fats go, I'm getting most of mine from fish. Salmon in particular. Fresh and smoked. I have smoked for lunch and fresh for dinner. Now, I don't like fish - but it's the best way to get what I need protein- and fats-wise.

In the carb department, I MOSTLY stay away from the crappy carbs...

But I'm also a weak, weak man...

And I really miss Pasta...

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Gnocchi...

Thanx so much for your input.

Your advice is ALWAYS welcome.

@@Wolfgirl78

I've put all my details into the MFP app. I'm just tweaking the protein/carb/fats balance, hoping to get it right.

I did notice that what it wanted me to eat was pretty high. 2400cal if I remember correctly. I guess if the 1500 cals experiment I can always up them to somewhere closer to the recommended level.

Like a lot of people here, I'm doing protein first and everything else after that.

Thanks for sharing your advice..

@@Tommy Joe

As stated earlier in this post, I do remember having the 'cheat meal/day' in a prior attempt at losing. I know it didn't harm the losing so it's definitely worth another shot.

Good luck with your WLS mate. Keep us posted with your progress..

And thanks you for your kind words. I've not taken the time to 'celebrate' my losses yet, but I'm a lot closer than I was 12 months ago.

Cheers mate...

@@mistybell

Thank you!!!

Any input is helpful.

Again, I seem to be underachieving in the carbs department. I've been staying under 40g per day, yet everyone seems to be up around 80-100g a day.

Definitely something I'll be looking at.

Thanks for your reply...

@@jintycb

Yeah, I'm getting there!! Thanx for your kind words...

Apart from the 'mankini' references.

The advice one can get here is invaluable. I know I can ALWAYS post a query and get a variety of responses.

I'm definitely looking into the caloric increase to kick things off again.

And yeah, you know when the stall passes - it'll be alllll over these boards!!!

Thank you...

@@Dub

Oh yeah - we looooove the stalls!!

I do my protein powders each day. They're low/no carbs. I'm up over 100g each day, with 140+ if I'm doing the weights.

And I'm hearing you re the 'crunch'...

That's the sh*t that I crave...

I just chew ice...

It doesn't really help - but it's a good story to tell...

Thanx for your advice mate...

Much appreciated

All -

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply.

As stated, I know that there's always a variety of answers and that's pretty much what I was after.

Of course, if anyone else has any advice, I'm all ears!!

Post it here or flick me a PM..

Thanx again all..

Kinda...

[BCs 1000 364]

I am close enough to my ultimate goal to smell it. My weight loss slowed and then stalled for 2 weeks. I went back to a liquid diet. Low carb Soup, Protein shakes and soy milk. I stuck to the liquids for 5 days and day 6&7 added a Protein pancake.

I shifted 2.3kg (5lbs) last week which now leaves me with only 4kg to my ultimate goal.

So far this week I have stuck to the liquids again, but 3 days should do it so tomorrow I will add in some chewable protein.

Look it worked, but I can't say I am not eternally scarred by the biggest loser article floating around about permanently screwed up metabolisms. I have made it to goal very quickly by being very harsh on my calorie intake so I may have really buggered it up.

[Daisee68 2,493]

I didn't read all the posts so apologies if this is repetitive. You need more carbs. Healthy ones but definitely more - Beans? Hummus? Veggies?