Stomach stretching

[sharonintx 1,275]

So the other night when I got the Subway sandwich I took the whole bottom of the bread off, ate nearly the entire bottom half of 6" of it, then the next day after work ate almost the whole remaining 6" Really out of both halves I ate 5" of each. It was a BMT, American cheese, pickles and olives, no mayo or other dressing.

It was delicious. I wish I had another.

[Inner Surfer Girl 12,015]

I thought about 6" vs 6' after I posted. You all know what I mean. Also I don't count calories[emoji43].

I know what you meant. I thought it was a funny Freudian slip. There was a time when a 6 foot sub sandwich sounded fun!

[LipstickLady 25,682]

So the other night when I got the Subway sandwich I took the whole bottom of the bread off, ate nearly the entire bottom half of 6" of it, then the next day after work ate almost the whole remaining 6" Really out of both halves I ate 5" of each. It was a BMT, American cheese, pickles and olives, no mayo or other dressing.

It was delicious. I wish I had another.

I get extra mayo. Slides down easier.

[PaulStephens1975 62]

The bread/rice/pasta thing is for people who've had the lap band.

[KristenLe 5,979]

The bread/rice/pasta thing is for people who've had the lap band.

Not in my world. It's not allowed on my plan with the sleeve or rny.

[snokb04 60]

Okay, forgive me if I'm being repetitive because I did skip over some of this. When you ate the first 3" why did you stop? Were you full? How long was it before you came back and ate the rest? I don't think it means there is something wrong, but I'm not the surgeon or NUT either.

My NUT has told us to eat our pre-portioned food over 20-30 minutes and no longer than that because if we do what we did pre-surgery and take a break for a few and then eat the rest, some of the food has had time to move through the stomach and you can/will end up overeating.

We are also supposed to stop before we get that full feeling, which at 2 mos out, I have yet to master. Weighing out what I'm supposed to eat (3 oz, maybe 4 if it's something like Refried Beans at 2 mos is what my program has advised us is the goal) is still too much for me sometimes. We also have been told not to go longer than 6 hours without eating food or having a supplement, so I do one or the other about every 4 hours.

We also have to wait one hour after eating before drinking and can't have any type of grains for the first 6 mos., mostly because she wants us to take that time to, hopefully, get in control of our eating habits and learn to focus on Protein (goal is half our body weight in protein and only 40 net carbs per day max) and produce first.

That said....we had a Survivor's Celebration yesterday at the cancer center I'm a RN at. I did pinch off one bite of someone else's ciabatta bread and it actually felt like a brick in my stomach. So won't be doing that again.

I recently watched Dr. Wiener's YouTube video about head hunger and realized that, sometimes when I think my stomach is grumbling, it is not my stomach at all. If you haven't watched his videos, I highly recommend them.

Everyone's programs and bodies are different. For example, someone whose stomach is healing faster and whose swelling is going down faster, may be able to eat more than me even though we had our surgeries around the same time; however, I do think it sounds like perhaps you ate again too soon (unless it was hours later) vs. something wrong with your sleeve. Hope that rambling explanation was helpful, but ultimately your goals and your decisions on how to eat are yours alone.

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Edited June 11, 2016 by snokb04

[PaulStephens1975 62]

The bread/rice/pasta thing is for people who've had the lap band.

Not in my world. It's not allowed on my plan with the sleeve or rny.

I believe your world to be different than what is considered standard.

[Syl 153 35]

Well, first of all you ate bread. One of the #1 postop rules is no bread, Pasta, rice, or simple carbs during the losing phase. And secondly, yes, that's a boatload of food. I'm 2 1/2 years out and can't eat that much (and I STILL wouldn't eat that much bread even if I could). Weren't you given a diet plan with portion guidelines? Told about grazing? Your sleeve can only do so much. What and how frequently you eat are still your responsibility.

Don't mean to preach, but if you want the simple answers to your questions, they are "yes" and "yes".

Okay,

1. My doctor allows my 40-60 carbs a day because I train as a wrestler. Your guidelines are yours.

2. A "boatload" of food for you, you cannot eat that much. But for me, I just did. I do not feel like I'm uncomfortably full, I feel normal. Don't apply your situation to everyone else when giving advice.

3. Your style of "advice" is not advice, it is condescending. People come here for advice, not to be parented and looked down upon. We are all adults.

4. I track everything. Calories in, calories out. Macros, and micros. My question was simple in nature. If you thought it was too much, too quick, all you needed to do was leave your last bit. You could hold off on the rest.

Best,

Sanju

Yes !! I agree with you. Some people need to be kinder with their remarks

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[sharonintx 1,275]

I eat bread every day. Never once has it caused a problem.

What's the big deal about bread anyway. If you eat it - enjoy. If you are for some reason 'prohibited' from eating bread, then don't.

[Icantbelieveit 955]

No bread, rice or Pasta recommended for me. I had rny. Said it swells in my pouch and slows weight loss.

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[sharonintx 1,275]

I eat, and have eaten all along, bread, rice, Pasta, sugar, and anything else I wanted. Sure they may fill you up faster because they expand but this is what you do - you quit eating when you are full. If any of these things disagree with you then you simply don't eat them anymore.

A sleeve is not a pouch. A sleeve loses it's ability to stretch very much because they remove the stretchy part.

I'm getting up in years and have learned one thing - those who make the biggest deal out of what not to eat, the rules of sleeve life, and what not to do are generally the ones who need the most help in controlling themselves in regard to eating and in regard to most everything else.

One who comes across as a know-it-all is usually the one who knows very little.

[LipstickLady 25,682]

I eat, and have eaten all along, bread, rice, Pasta, sugar, and anything else I wanted. Sure they may fill you up faster because they expand but this is what you do - you quit eating when you are full. If any of these things disagree with you then you simply don't eat them anymore.

A sleeve is not a pouch. A sleeve loses it's ability to stretch very much because they remove the stretchy part.

I'm getting up in years and have learned one thing - those who make the biggest deal out of what not to eat, the rules of sleeve life, and what not to do are generally the ones who need the most help in controlling themselves in regard to eating and in regard to most everything else.

One who comes across as a know-it-all is usually the one who knows very little.

And those who insists on telling others how they should or should not communicate need to learn to block, scroll or ignore.

I wonder if they try to dictate the words of others IRL, too.

[KristenLe 5,979]

@@sharonintx I have 140lbs+ to lose and think it's important to eat according to my plan. I would not lose near that amount if I ate bread, Pasta, rice and sugar during the weight loss phase. Of course I need help controlling myself (as do most others) - I wouldn't need WLS if I didn't. Congrats on your success and being able to eat freely - that is a rare story for those of us who are morbidly obese.

[jess9395 5,449]

The bread/rice/pasta thing is for people who've had the lap band.

Not in my world. It's not allowed on my plan with the sleeve or rny.

I believe your world to be different than what is considered standard.

With WLS very little is standard. Many of us have plans that limit or eliminate refined carbs like bread/rice/pasta whether we've had the sleeve, band or bypass. Many of us do not.

Personally they all don't sit well in my small (sleeved) stomach anyhow even at over 2.5 years out, so I avoid them.

I encourage everyone to be informed by their surgeons plan (you picked the surgeon because you trusted them, yes?) but also be respectful of others plans, AND find what WORKS for you. Some people need to limit refined carbs to lose or because they don't agree with you. Even if my surgeons plan didn't limit them (and mine only limits refined carbs) I would because that's what works for me. For example, I am careful even with whole grains because they don't agree with me and slow my loss/cause regain (I am in maintenance).

So to claim any one thing is "standard" is usually standing on shaky ground.

[Valentina 2,642]

The bread/rice/pasta thing is for people who've had the lap band.

Not in my world. It's not allowed on my plan with the sleeve or rny.

I believe your world to be different than what is considered standard.

I am now 5yrs out and in "my world" any Pasta, rice or bread brings on dumping syndrome.

17% of sleevers experience dumping. I'm just one of those lucky ones.

Standard is whatever is normal for you. Everyone's journey is indeed their own.