Tmitch817 11 Posted May 17, 2016 You look good girl! Keep up the good work! All In all we all we all have the same goal! Get healthy and fine!!!! Thanks ladies for the good advice! Sent from my SM-G925T using the BariatricPal App That post needs to be edited ...yall get it Sent from my SM-G925T using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kindle 8,667 Posted May 17, 2016 Sugar would make a gastric bypass person sick. We can't do sugar. And also read how many go from the sleeve to gastric bypass. That was my point. And my link proved what was needed proved that a gastric bypass person can not drink soda or sip from a straw and it tells why. And I was wrong it is not temporary it is ever.]Sorry to tell you this, but you are the one poorly uninformed. I personally know 3 people that have had bypass and they ALL eat sugar and they ALL drink soda, and they ALL use straws. In fact, one of them is my best friend and I've seen her eat donuts and chocolate cake and cheesecake and LOTS of Cookies while I snack on Protein bars. She eats apple turnovers for Breakfast while I eat crustless bacon and spinach quiche. She drinks sweetened iced tea and regular Coke (every single day) THROUGH A STRAW while I sip my Protein shakes and Water. Her husband drinks beer regularly and eats all the same sugary Desserts that she does. If they were sleeved instead of having bypass, they would have regained all their weight by now, It's their malabsorption that keeps them where they are, certainly not their healthy eating habits. In that sense a sleever has to be way more disciplined in order to be successful. THATS why so many convert to bypass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jess9395 5,449 Posted May 17, 2016 Lipstick lady I said what?? That I have problems with drinking? I just proved she was wrong. I'd like to know what other things you are speaking of? And she cussed at me. But that is ok? I treat people with the same respect they give me. Thanks Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using the BariatricPal App I read that whole link and saw no "proof" to support for claim that straws cause ulcers or stretching (pouch OR sleeve). And all it is is a link to a post on another message board not a scholarly article or even a doctors answer... Yes a doctor did say "what she said" but there are doctors all over that disagree on this very subject (stretching/straws). So please reconsider your idea of "proof." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ele marie 92 Posted May 17, 2016 How far out are they? There exception In everything. If a person sets themselves up to fail they will. Some people love food more than anything else. The straw thing is only about gastric bypass people not the sleeve. I have 2 friends that are married one had the sleeve one had gastric bypass the one with the sleeve can eat small portions of anything and she eats badly like she always did. Her husband trys to do the same and gets so sick. He regrets having gastric bypass because he wants to be able to be able to eat some of his old favorites they both are a year in just since December. She won't even go to the doctor's appointments anymore because she is not following orders and is gaining. He has lost almost 200 pounds. So I guess I was judging the sleeve by them. And they are the reason I decided to have the gastric over the sleeve even though my doctor really wanted to sleeve me. Both will work if you stay dedicated one of my sisters is 15 years out. If you want to be successful you will be. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoachBug 233 Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) I love Slushies, though it seems to be a one sided love affair. Due to the 1, 2 combo of buldging waistline and diabetes, I had to break up with dear old Slushie. When I started taking insulin (not too long ago), I really began paying close attention to the carb/sugar content of everything. I was shocked to find that a 20oz Slushie has a whopping 76g carbs (all from sugar). The really frightening thing is the fact that I never would get a "reg" 20oz but the Big Gulp size. Not hard to figure out how the glucose levels were so high, when I was drinking 150g carbs/sugar from one Slushie. During the nutrition classes, one of the slides showed the equivalent in sugar cubes for a large Slushie. After seeing that pic, I could not imagine having one again. Slushie was and is a cruel mistress. Edited May 17, 2016 by RoachBug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ele marie 92 Posted May 17, 2016 Jess9395 Please do what ever you want to do. My doctor is who I will listen to him and my nutritionist. I was just telling the poster what I was told when I had surgery. I agree the article did not say anything about ulcers. But again that is what I was told by my doctor. I do not have heartburn either never have yet he told me to take the medication anyways to prevent ulcers. Maybe surgeon are different. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ele marie 92 Posted May 17, 2016 @@Roach bug What about sugar free Slurpees? I don't know if that would be ok or not. But I know they exist. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jess9395 5,449 Posted May 17, 2016 Jess9395 Please do what ever you want to do. My doctor is who I will listen to him and my nutritionist. I was just telling the poster what I was told when I had surgery. I agree the article did not say anything about ulcers. But again that is what I was told by my doctor. I do not have heartburn either never have yet he told me to take the medication anyways to prevent ulcers. Maybe surgeon are different. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using the BariatricPal App I don't use straws and I don't drink icees (and yes there are sugar free ones at 7-11). But my point is you didn't provide any proof. I am a stickler for accuracy in language. I'm glad you listen to/trust your doctor. But "proof" is not ambiguous, it's concrete. I think one of the problems with everyone's doctors giving different advice is there just ISN'T a lot of proof to these things, so we have to chose a doctor and trust their expert OPINIONS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ele marie 92 Posted May 17, 2016 Jess9395 Lot of information on Google if you want to research it. I was just trying to tell the poster what my professional told me. Reason he even told me was because I asked if I could have a straw in the hospital. And the nurse told me I couldn't have it because of my surgery so when my doctor came by I asked him why. He told me what I told the poster. You all can do whatever you want and he said this only because I have the gastric bypass pouch not the sleeve. Thanks for your reply. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ele marie 92 Posted May 17, 2016 The sugar free Slurpee comment was to Roach. Not you. sorry I am new to all this posting I do not know how to do the quotes feature. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoachBug 233 Posted May 17, 2016 Hmm, never saw a sugar free Slushie/Slurpee. Will have to give it a try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jess9395 5,449 Posted May 17, 2016 Jess9395 Lot of information on Google if you want to research it. I was just trying to tell the poster what my professional told me. Reason he even told me was because I asked if I could have a straw in the hospital. And the nurse told me I couldn't have it because of my surgery so when my doctor came by I asked him why. He told me what I told the poster. You all can do whatever you want and he said this only because I have the gastric bypass pouch not the sleeve. Thanks for your reply. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using the BariatricPal App But that isn't what you said, you said "look here's proof" and posted that link. That link didn't prove anything, and didn't even mention the ulcer issue, which I have yet to see any information on anywhere. And now you're telling me to google to find the proof? Nope that's okay. I will just walk away. SMH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ele marie 92 Posted May 17, 2016 Jess9395 Reserch is knowledge. And I stand by what I say. Thank you for walking away. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using the BariatricPal App Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jintycb 721 Posted May 17, 2016 Hi guys, on a purely personal note, I prefer to stick with experienced sleevers who have heard all the 'opinions' but who have the intelligence and sense to sort the solid true facts out from the flannel. Those veterans (please excuse the title but it denotes experience not age!) have been successful in losing weight. They have a wealth of knowledge gained through intelligent research. I'm with them. Thus far, their posts have been my touchstone on my journey. I'm sticking with what is working (rather brilliantly too) for me. By the way I'm walking away too-apart from anything else I cannot keep reading badly spelled, grammatically incorrect articles full of malapropisms and with no decent spacing. To me that shows a lack of respect for readers of the posts. It (wrongly sometimes) assumes we all can disentangle the prose and work out the true meaning behind the words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LipstickLady 25,682 Posted May 17, 2016 And I stand by my sleeve comment read all the comments about some of these that can eat chocolate,donuts and cake! Sugar would make a gastric bypass person sick. We can't do sugar. And also read how many go from the sleeve to gastric bypass. That was my point. And my link proved what was needed proved that a gastric bypass person can not drink soda or sip from a straw and it tells why. And I was wrong it is not temporary it is ever. You both are giving them the wrong advice. I know plenty of bypass people who CAN consume fat and sugar and who HAVE regained their weight doing so. I also know plenty of sleeve people who dump from eating too much sugar/fat. I am one of them. I know plenty of bypass AND sleevers who drink through a straw daily and are fine. Same with carbonation and diet soda. I don't have an issue with your opinion, I have an issue when you state your opinion as fact for every patient. You posted an article where a common person says not to use a straw and a doctor gives them the thumbs up. That's seriously no different than a customer walking into a McD's and saying that their hamburgers are the best in the world and McD's putting up a national ad saying they have been proclaimed the world's best burgers. Show me a scientific study that says straws give ulcers. Ludicrous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites