Is this dumping syndrome?

[mmy 62]

It seems no matter what I eat or how I eat Or how much I eat always feel nauseous with accelerated heart beat and dizziness and usually dierrhea 30-60 min after. What to me seems like dumping syndrome. Some of the foods I eat are:-

- Protein Shake 0 carb 0 sugar

- Greek style yoghurt

- soft scrambled eggs

- lentil Soup (no potatoes)

- home made Tomato Soup

- no sugar added creamy porridge

- 0 sugar Jello

- cottage cheese

The only thing that I have managed to take in well is Bone Broth. I eat very small amount using only the tip of a small spoon each time. And no more than a total of 3-4 table spoons of food each time. Maximum 3 meals per day (that doesn't include water) and no I don't drink or eat at the same time.. Leave a gap between 15-30min between each. Is this normal??!

I have also noticed that I have a heightened sense of smell now and everything smells horrible to me. I am hating the taste of sweet things which is making it really really really difficult to drink my Protein shakes. I tried a sample of powders? utm_source=BariatricPal&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=CommentLink" target="_ad" data-id="1" >unjury chicken soup protein and the taste was horrible. I am just really finding it difficult to cope. Any advice?

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Edited May 11, 2016 by mmy

[Daisee68 2,493]

While I had nausea for a long time, I did not experience dizziness or diarrhea. Those 2 things make it sound a little like dumping but it seems odd you would dump from those foods. I think I would probably call your NUT and see if you can get some advice from her. Looks like you are only a couple if weeks post-op? Maybe the symptoms are unrelated to food? What I mean is you could have dizziness from lack of fluids and so little food and the diarrhea is just a side effect for some people. Are you able to tolerate any Protein shakes? The Premier Protein ready to drink shakes are very good. (I thought the Injury was gross both pre and post-op). Especially if you are having diarrhea, please be sure to dri k lots of Fluid so you do not dehydrate and land back in the hospital.

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[James Marusek 5,244]

How many days/weeks post-op are you? After surgery I became lactose intolerant. Whenever I consumed milk or products containing lactose, I would get pains in my stomach and a quick trip to the bathroom with diarrhea. So I cut off all lactose and I was fine. This condition disappeared after about 2 months and I returned to normal. Some Protein shakes contain lactose.

In looking over what you are eating, these foods do not seem to be a trigger for dumping syndrome. Sometimes if you eat too much it will cause dumping. Do you experience pre-triggers such as sneezing, mucus buildup, the taste of food suddenly changing to ugly during a meal?

After RNY gastric bypass surgery, the three most important requirements are meeting your daily Protein, Fluid and Vitamin requirements. food is secondary because your body is converting stored fat into the energy that drives your body. Thus you lose weight. Exercise is also important.

[Maryetta 9]

Are you drinking the 64 ozs of Water a day? It should help with this.

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[mmy 62]

@@James Marusek I'm 2 weeks post-op. Actually yesterday I had milk alone to see if it was the trigger and it went in fine with no problems for the rest of the day. It seems the Protein shake and the porridge are the worst for me. I had MGB which is supposed to cause much less dumping syndrome. Called my doctor yesterday and he said to take nexium 40mg but I'm already taking omeprazol 40mg. He said well then change to nexium!!!

I don't have any of the other symptoms you have mentioned.

@@Maryetta

I think no I'm still unable to get in my daily requirement of Water and Protein

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Edited May 12, 2016 by mmy

[James Marusek 5,244]

Immediately after surgery your body is in a major heal mode. During this time it is often common for individuals to be unable to meet their requirements for fluids and Protein. Just keep striving for these daily requirements and you should be able to get there.

My doctor prescribed omeprazol for the first year after surgery. It was not for treating severe acid reflux but rather to allow the stomach to heal properly.

Researching the internet for your conditions seems to imply that you have early dumping syndrome. https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=134&ContentID=107

It seems like their main recommendation is to go with smaller meals but a larger number of meals each day.

Since you are finding it difficult to consume Protein shakes, I recommend that you continue to experiment with different types and brands until you find one that you can tolerate. I used muscle milk light (vanilla creme) powder blended with Water to which I blended in a half a banana to improve the taste. Since you do not have lactose intolerance, milk might be a good source of protein for you. Some people Isopure Zero Carb premixed drinks. Since protein is more important than food at your stage, keep experimenting. You need to find something you can tolerate long term, not necessarily just like but tolerate.

[mmy 62]

@@James Marusek

But what could be causing the dumping Syndrome in my case??? Doctor doesn't think it's a dumping syndrome thought he didn't say what he thinks it is.

In regards to the Protein shakes, so far I've tried 4 brands and all caused me to have what seems like dumping syndrome, the other issue is after the surgery it seems that my taste buds have changed. I can't stand anything that is sweet and absolutely gag on things with artificial flavors and/or smells. I will for sure keep looking and trying and testing.. But for the time being I'm barely meeting 20g of Protein per day. Since I can handle the milk well I was thinking of drinking milk instead of Water. Not sure if that's ok though?

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Edited May 12, 2016 by mmy

[James Marusek 5,244]

Milk can be a Protein supplement. 8 ounces of 1% milk equals 8 grams of Protein. If you supplement the milk by adding 1/4 cup of dry powdered milk to the 8 ounces, that will give you 14 grams of protein per glass.

After surgery my taste buds changed dramatically. I could not even tolerate the Water in the hospital. It tasted overly chlorinated. I could drink it only tolerated slivers of ice. As time goes on your taste buds will continue to change so you might keep trying every now and then. Eventually most things will return but it may take months/years.

Your daily Fluid requirement is the sum of all fluids you consume during the day. Water counts. Milk counts. The milk or water used in your Protein shake counts. The liquid part of a Soup counts. The water you drink to swallow your Vitamins count. Tea and Decaf coffee count. Some people find it easier to drink hot liquids, others cold. It varies by person.

[lorelai 0]

I'm one day post op. I can't even get all my Water in, let alone all my Protein shakes. Did anyone else have trouble. I don't want to go into post op being dehydrated and malnourished. Please tell me it will get better.

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[Daisee68 2,493]

@@lorelai - drs and NUTs aren't very clear on this but they do not expect you to get in all your fluids and Protein on day 1. It takes time because of the swelling. I think I was lucky to get 40oz of Fluid and 40g Protein for the first week and then it gets easier. Do the best you can. Concentrate on fluids the most (and if you can get fluids with protein , you knock out 2 birds with 2 stones). Hang in there! Set a timer to remind you to sip every 5 minutes and then take tiny sips.

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[lorelai 0]

Thank you

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[lorelai 0]

At the hospital i drank 2 breeze, 1 boost and tons of Water in small sips of course .but now that I'm home today. I am in Lots of pain. So less and less liquids today.

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