Sophie74656 1,572 Posted September 28, 2015 I say everything in moderation if you want some soda, have a few sips, if you want a cookie have one but make sure you're staying within your calorie goal A nutritionist once told me that if you have a strong craving for something like lets say a cookie, you try to substitute with something else, you're probably going to eventually have that cookie anyway but now you've eaten that cookie and the substitute and had more calories than if you had just had the cookie to begin with and satisfied your craving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnA92212 577 Posted September 28, 2015 My surgeon said no soda ever! Caffeine is an appetite enhancer and the carbonation can stretch your stomach. I was told after I reach goal weight I can have anything I want in limited quantities. Even caffeine. I am 5 months out from surgery, down 115 pounds, and 30 pounds from goal weight. I don't eat sweets very much at all because they give me a headache now. I do not really eat bread either. I may have a single bite everyone now and again but not often. It fills me up and I NEED to get that Protein in! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WL WARRIOR 692 Posted September 29, 2015 I've talked to a few post op bariatric patients that have gained some or all their weight back. All of them confessed that despite having great restriction, their weight started to pile back on when they added in unhealthy Snacks and soda back in their diet. I don't think unhealthy Snacks (Cookies, chips, soda) have any place in your diet during the weight loss phase. Its been shown that many processed snack foods contain chemicals that make them addictive. If you go completely without, then you don't have to deal with daily cravings. Once you hit maintenance, it all depends on what works for you. Personally, I'm striving to hit a 95-98 daily percentage of healthy eating (Protein first, low carbs, low sugar). The other 2-5% may be a few pieces of hard candy (tootsie roll pops) or some marshmallows because my blood sugar feels low. This seems to be working right now since I've stayed below goal the paste few months. If I find myself craving sugary snacks more often, then I will change it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BestDayEver 418 Posted September 29, 2015 My sister had bypass approximately 5 years ago. She still wears plus sizes and never got to her goal weight. Soon after surgery she started drinking McDonald's milk shakes. I visited her over the summer and she eats just like the old days with chocolate candy and regular soda being her favorite foods. She has practically no hair on her head and Protein is on the bottom of her list. The message here is that surgery is only a tool and the rest is up to you. Many who don't know better think the surgery will be some sort of miracle cure and don't realize how much effort it takes to completely change the way you eat forever. One day at a time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babbs 14,681 Posted September 29, 2015 My sister had bypass approximately 5 years ago. She still wears plus sizes and never got to her goal weight. Soon after surgery she started drinking McDonald's milk shakes. I visited her over the summer and she eats just like the old days with chocolate candy and regular soda being her favorite foods. She has practically no hair on her head and Protein is on the bottom of her list. The message here is that surgery is only a tool and the rest is up to you. Many who don't know better think the surgery will be some sort of miracle cure and don't realize how much effort it takes to completely change the way you eat forever. One day at a time. How very sad. Unfortunately, I see this happen all too often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wannaBthinsoon 1,634 Posted September 29, 2015 People really need to pay attention to their doctors and nutritionists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babbs 14,681 Posted September 29, 2015 I say everything in moderation if you want some soda, have a few sips, if you want a cookie have one but make sure you're staying within your calorie goal A nutritionist once told me that if you have a strong craving for something like lets say a cookie, you try to substitute with something else, you're probably going to eventually have that cookie anyway but now you've eaten that cookie and the substitute and had more calories than if you had just had the cookie to begin with and satisfied your craving. Unfortunately, full on food addicts can't do anything in moderation. The 'everything in moderation' thinking can sometimes get people into trouble. What happens when the restriction wanes and hunger returns (because down the road it does happen) and then there is nothing to help moderate things? People gain weight, that's what happens. Sometimes it's just best to abstain from certain trigger foods. Sad, but true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sophie74656 1,572 Posted September 29, 2015 I say everything in moderation if you want some soda, have a few sips, if you want a cookie have one but make sure you're staying within your calorie goal A nutritionist once told me that if you have a strong craving for something like lets say a cookie, you try to substitute with something else, you're probably going to eventually have that cookie anyway but now you've eaten that cookie and the substitute and had more calories than if you had just had the cookie to begin with and satisfied your craving. Unfortunately, full on food addicts can't do anything in moderation. The 'everything in moderation' thinking can sometimes get people into trouble. What happens when the restriction wanes and hunger returns (because down the road it does happen) and then there is nothing to help moderate things? People gain weight, that's what happens. Sometimes it's just best to abstain from certain trigger foods. Sad, but true. I don't t think that full on food addicts should have the surgery then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZombieQueen 33 Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) People have probably already listed this but I think some good Snacks would be a few pieces of lunch meat, maybe a boiled egg. A cheese stick, some frozen Greek yogurt or frozen berries covered in Greek yogurt. A piece of beef Jerky, a small handful of nuts (ones high in protein) just some ideas I'm pre bag, can't wait to officially start my journey. I ment vsg lol Edited September 29, 2015 by ZombieQueen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BestDayEver 418 Posted September 30, 2015 Knowing your trigger foods is the key. I can have salty Snacks in my house all day everyday and don't even think about it or touch it, no problem. Sweets are my downfall. candy or baked goods. I bought a package of pumpkin spice biscotti at Trader Joes yesterday for "the family" and just took a whiff from the opened package and thought " oh hell no". My husband took it to his office this morning haha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tssiemer1 549 Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) I say everything in moderation if you want some soda, have a few sips, if you want a cookie have one but make sure you're staying within your calorie goal A nutritionist once told me that if you have a strong craving for something like lets say a cookie, you try to substitute with something else, you're probably going to eventually have that cookie anyway but now you've eaten that cookie and the substitute and had more calories than if you had just had the cookie to begin with and satisfied your craving. Unfortunately, full on food addicts can't do anything in moderation. The 'everything in moderation' thinking can sometimes get people into trouble. What happens when the restriction wanes and hunger returns (because down the road it does happen) and then there is nothing to help moderate things? People gain weight, that's what happens. Sometimes it's just best to abstain from certain trigger foods. Sad, but true. I don't t think that full on food addicts should have the surgery thenSooo with that logic full on heroin addicts shouldn't have suboxone or methadone? It's a tool as well. Not a miracle. It's hard work. Just like WLS. As Kurt Vonegut said and this posted on my wall in my office where I work as a social worker in a drug rehab facility: You were sick, but now you are well and there is work to be done. Edited September 30, 2015 by Tssiemer1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daisee68 2,493 Posted September 30, 2015 @@Sophie74656 - I disagree. Addiction is fully treatable if a person wants to treat it. I have been seeing a therapist to treat this and will continue to do so for at least 2 years post-op constantly dealing with this. The problem is people think WLS "fixes" everything and you have to remember that it is just a tool to help you lose while you are getting healthy in other ways by seeing nutritionist and therapist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sophie74656 1,572 Posted September 30, 2015 @@Sophie74656 - I disagree. Addiction is fully treatable if a person wants to treat it. I have been seeing a therapist to treat this and will continue to do so for at least 2 years post-op constantly dealing with this. The problem is people think WLS "fixes" everything and you have to remember that it is just a tool to help you lose while you are getting healthy in other ways by seeing nutritionist and therapist. I completely agree, I had a food addiction before my surgery but that has changed for me. Once your food addiction is resolved then yes, have the surgery. But while you currently have a food addiction surgery would not be a good thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tssiemer1 549 Posted September 30, 2015 People have probably already listed this but I think some good Snacks would be a few pieces of lunch meat, maybe a boiled egg. A cheese stick, some frozen Greek yogurt or frozen berries covered in Greek yogurt. A piece of beef Jerky, a small handful of nuts (ones high in protein) just some ideas I'm pre bag, can't wait to officially start my journey. I ment vsg lol My new obsession is wasabi almonds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sophie74656 1,572 Posted September 30, 2015 I say everything in moderation if you want some soda, have a few sips, if you want a cookie have one but make sure you're staying within your calorie goal A nutritionist once told me that if you have a strong craving for something like lets say a cookie, you try to substitute with something else, you're probably going to eventually have that cookie anyway but now you've eaten that cookie and the substitute and had more calories than if you had just had the cookie to begin with and satisfied your craving. Unfortunately, full on food addicts can't do anything in moderation. The 'everything in moderation' thinking can sometimes get people into trouble. What happens when the restriction wanes and hunger returns (because down the road it does happen) and then there is nothing to help moderate things? People gain weight, that's what happens. Sometimes it's just best to abstain from certain trigger foods. Sad, but true. I don't t think that full on food addicts should have the surgery thenSooo with that logic full on heroin addicts shouldn't have suboxone or methadone? It's a tool as well. Not a miracle. It's hard work. Just like WLS. As Kurt Vonegut said and this posted on my wall in my office where I work as a social worker in a drug rehab facility: You were sick, but now you are well and there is work to be done. those would be tools to help deal with the addiction. Just like therapy would be a tool to help with food addiction. But these are different things. I had a food addiction before my surgery but I dealt with it through various methods and now my attitude towards food is different. I think while someone has a food addiction and are not treating it, surgery would not be successful for them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites