Marijuana Use After Surgery

[2Flyguys 13]

don't hate the sinner....hate the sin....xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo

[2Flyguys 13]

I read an article that reported the results of a survey that asked 'would you rather lose a limb or be fat' and the answer was ' lose a limb'.

One of the fears I've had about losing this weight is that I will become a mean, self-righteous, vain person who will forget that beauty comes from within...not the digital readout on the bathroom scale.

If the choice is between being a nasty, self-righteous vain person and fat...I'll take fat because there are worse things than being fat.

THIS HAS TO BE MY ALL TIME FAVORITE EXCUSE FOR NOT LOSING WEIGHT....LMAO!!!!!!! KUDOS TO U!!!!!!!!

[blackcherry2002 5]

There's no need to get so personal. Yes it's illegal. But no it is not as bad as alcohol or cigerettes or caffine for that matter. It's hard to reverse decades of propaganda out of peoples' minds. Also for the person that assumed they were talking to someone young, I find that demoralizing and extremely deragatory. It is possible to have logical reasoning skills at a young age. And it's also possible to be a self righteous bigot without consciously knowing. Both sides are being condescending towards each other and it's just wrong. There are many people out there that have the wrong information about marijuana. And likely the only reason why it's illegal both recreationally and medicinally is because it's politics. There are no politicians that are willing to put their careers on the line to stand up for it. Those politicians that do stand up for it have other differing views that keep them from being elected.

[*susan* 1,709]

Hi guys,

No reason to start getting personal and attacking one another. I think we can keep it friendly while debating the issue.

As for LBT, we neither advocate nor promote the use of marijuana. It is clearly stated in our rules that "All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of LapBandTalk will be held responsible for the content of any message."

[plain 12]

just out of curisty ms. elfiepoo how much weight have u lost??????? no pics posted....no ticker shown....my guess is not that much...y dont u get from behind ur computer....stop worrying about marijuana and hit the gym...better yet runs some laps with the inmates on the yard.

Personal attacks are against the rules. Please refrain from using them.

[ElfiePoo 109]

Also for the person that assumed they were talking to someone young, I find that demoralizing and extremely deragatory. It is possible to have logical reasoning skills at a young age. .

The fact remains that the part of the brain that deals with judgment and decision making is not fully developed until the early 20's. This was not a derogatory comment, but one based on science. Am I being derogatory if I say that a person with only one leg has only one leg? Same thing.

I absolutely agree with you that marijuana is illegal for recreational use because of politics...but that doesn't change the fact that right now it is still illegal.

Here's a question for those of you who do smoke marijuana. If your insurance company required that you take regular drug tests both pre and post op for an indefinite time...would you refrain from using?

[plain 12]

Here's a question for those of you who do smoke marijuana. If your insurance company required that you take regular drug tests both pre and post op for an indefinite time...would you refrain from using?

Depends on the type of test. I occasionally indulge.....if the insurance was testing, say, a hair follicle, then I guess I'd quit. If the test was a simple urinalysis, I'd take my chances (since I smoke so infrequently).

I know that your question is simply to advance the debate...but I can't see how any insurance company in real life could justify the costs of post-op marijuana testing without some studies showing that pot usage is directly causal to band failure / weight retention.

[ElfiePoo 109]

I know that your question is simply to advance the debate...but I can't see how any insurance company in real life could justify the costs of post-op marijuana testing without some studies showing that pot usage is directly causal to band failure / weight retention.

I haven't known insurance companies to show too much common sense in that regard. Let's face it, if they truly cared about the cost ratio, wouldn't they stop fighting so hard to pay for the surgery at all? I don't hold all the statistics, but logically it seems that $20k (roughly) is a lot less money than the alternative of 20-60 years of obesity related medical conditions just for one individual. Then again, perhaps they're playing russian roullette and hoping the person loses their coverage through loss of employment or something else and they won't have to pay either.

Actually, I didn't just ask to advance the debate. I was curious (maybe part of my profession) how people prioritized the use of pot in relation to the band.

[MoniqueD 8]

I just ran accross this and all I can say is..."WOW! Such a touch, personal subject!"

[junbug178 0]

I guess no more "special" brownies...or maybe more "special" brownies.

[AirKuhl 1]

Pot is definitely illegal for most of us (FWIW, I have a license to legally smoke, I buy pot in a store with a credit card and pay sales tax for it).

There are many things that are illegal because laws are often created for the wrong reasons, and are very slow to change. Google "dumb laws", there are websites devoted to them. For example, there's a law on the books in NY that slippers may NOT be worn after 10:00 PM, and that whaling is illegal in Oklahoma.

The point is that we ALL break laws every day. We drive 5mph over the limit, we cross an intersection while the light is "orange", we wear slippers after 10:00PM.

I agree that if you feel it needs to be illegal, then it seems logical for booze and tobacco to be illegal. And also beef, pork, butter, cream, soft drinks, fast food, gun ownership, skiing and so on. All these things can cause serious issues when abused.

There is a problem with that logic though. In the USA at least, it's our job to NOT blindly obey every law simply because it's there. It's our responsibility to fight against unjust laws, and to always side with the rights of the responsible individual first. Our government is not here to give us a list of allowable activities, it's here to protect us from harm and make sure that we can engage in whatever activities we see fit to engage in provided no one is unwillingly harmed. There is no one in the government with the job of reviewing millions of local, state and federal regulations to see if any need to be updated of changed. It's our job to get those changed. They work for us, not the other way around, and need to be reminded of that regularly.

Pot should be legal everywhere. But go ahead and increase the penalty for hurting someone while under the influence of whatever substance. Eliminate welfare for drug addicts who can't get employed because of the drugs. We make our choices and need to live with them.

Pot is decriminalized in several states with more to come. It's only because there are people out there making that happen in a responsible fashion. Ask any cop, there are more important things for them to do than hassle the random stoner.

[happy2lose 0]

I think it is terrible that fat people are so close minded and judgemental and I will leave it at that.

TO EACH HIS OWN!

[Just-Ice 1]

i'm thinking munchies would be a problem.

best comment ever!!!! Rofl

[samanthazzz 0]

I will add that taking a hit after a stuck episode can relax your throat.

I think I heard that from a little birdie lol

[2Flyguys 13]

lmao....samantha...tweet...tweet....tweet