chanou 0 Posted June 28, 2007 Can someone tell me if that means that I won't covered for the laopband- I just went to my seminar yesterday?? Thanks This what is under my covered benefits in my certificate booklet Obesity Covered Services for obesity include up to two nutritional counseling visits when referred by your Primary Care Physician. Prescription Drugs and any other services or supplies for the treatment of obesity are not covered. Surgical treatment of obesity is only covered for patients meeting Medical Necessity criteria, as defined by us. Precertification is required, and coverage is only provided for gastric bypass or vertically banded gastroplasty. and then under exclusions and what's not covered: Any services or supplies for the treatment of obesity, including but not limited to, weight reduction, medical care or Prescription drugs, or dietary control (except as related to covered nutritional counseling). Nutritional supplements; services, supplies and/or nutritional sustenance products (food) related to enteral feeding except when it’s the sole means of nutrition. food supplements. Services for Inpatient treatment of bulimia, anorexia or other eating disorders which consist primarily of behavior modification, diet and weight monitoring and education. Any services or supplies that involve weight reduction as the main method of treatment, including medical, psychiatric care or counseling. Weight loss programs, nutritional supplements, appetite suppressants, and supplies of a similar nature. Procedures including but not limited to liposuction, gastric balloons, jejunal bypasses, and wiring of the jaw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexandra 55 Posted June 28, 2007 Surgical treatment of obesity is only covered for patientsmeeting Medical Necessity criteria, as defined by us. Precertification is required, and coverage is only provided for gastric bypass or vertically banded gastroplasty This is the key provision. Are you medically qualified for bariatric surgery? If you are, then your carrier does provide coverage. The fact that only two kinds of surgery are mentioned specifically just means, to me, that it was written some time ago. Adjustable gastric banding is a newer version of vertical banded gastroplasty, which is pretty much not done any more. My guess is that the boilerplate language in this contract has just not been updated to keep up with medical developments. Call your carrier and ask for their current coverage policies on bariatric surgery. But overall I'd say your contract is good news, because bariatric surgery isn't excluded. If they deny based on something other than your medical criteria you'd have an EXCELLENT case for appeal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chanou 0 Posted June 28, 2007 Yes I am medically qualified- My BMI is 46, I have PCOS and diabetes. I did called and a rep told me that baraitric surgery was an exclusion in my contract- Then i started doing my research and reread the the certificate and found that clause under the covered benefits. I am concerned because under exclusions, it says that it excluded treament of obesity yet the above clause was in the covered benefits- It's like they are contradicting each other. This is the key provision. Are you medically qualified for bariatric surgery? If you are, then your carrier does provide coverage. The fact that only two kinds of surgery are mentioned specifically just means, to me, that it was written some time ago. Adjustable gastric banding is a newer version of vertical banded gastroplasty, which is pretty much not done any more. My guess is that the boilerplate language in this contract has just not been updated to keep up with medical developments. Call your carrier and ask for their current coverage policies on bariatric surgery. But overall I'd say your contract is good news, because bariatric surgery isn't excluded. If they deny based on something other than your medical criteria you'd have an EXCELLENT case for appeal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mylapspirit 2 Posted June 28, 2007 Hi! The key here is Blue Cross/Blue Shield. They will do everything possible to not cover it but if it is not excluded on your policy they eventually WILL cover it - just don't give up. It took me 11 months to get approved. I just got approved last Friday. I started the process in August 2006. Jump thru all the hoops they ask of you. Don't give up, be persistant and patient. Work with the insurance coordinator at your surgeons office. Never give up! Michelle:ranger: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
valzie 0 Posted June 28, 2007 I just read someone else on this site got approved within two days of submitting to bc/bs so it all depends on the bc/bs company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexandra 55 Posted June 28, 2007 I am concerned because under exclusions, it says that it excluded treament of obesity yet the above clause was in the covered benefits- It's like they are contradicting each other. Ahhh, yes, but "medically necessary" is the magic phrase here. Obesity in general is not considered to require medical treatment (which is why such treatment is excluded on almost all medical plans), but morbid obesity is. The clause you copied says "medical necessity...as defined by us" so call them and get a copy of what they consider the definition to be. I'd be shocked if it didn't exactly mirror the generally accepted medical definition of severe or morbid obesity: a BMI of 40 or above, or a BMI of 35-39 with accompanying comorbidities. With a BMI of 46 you definitely qualify under medical guidelines, and if they say you don't, again, you'd have an excellent case for appeal. As for it being BCBS, one BCBS is not the same as another. Each state has its own, as well as its own rules about what can and can't be excluded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites